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#476 2020-01-08 3:08pm

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

So I did it, when polishing the cage screws I shot one across the shop and lost it. Does anyone have a extra or a set of beat pedals I could buy, that would be great. Thanks for any help.


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#477 2020-01-08 6:40pm

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

Found the one I lost, I found polishing them while in the body keeps them from shooting off the polisher through the shop. https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/240431/20200108_1945305e1692b3b1.jpg


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#478 2020-01-09 6:19am

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#479 2020-03-21 7:46pm

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https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/239265/img_10725e76d0da3e.jpg
Not highly detailed but ok 1/2 and 9/16 new caps and cages the black bodies look like it has the mc master car ss screws with the wrong threads came that way as purchased


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#480 2020-03-23 6:06pm

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

Doug, a lot of people were using M4 x 0.70 screws which are commonly available.  More or less retaps the hole.  I don't like it, but it does generally hold.


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#481 2020-03-28 8:39pm

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

What pin spanner are you guys using to back out the cone when securing the spindles nice and snug?


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#482 2020-03-28 8:43pm

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Personally....I make the cone a hair loose and sit there and tighten just the nut....I do this multiple times, til I'm blue in the face, the magically the sun and moon line up.  The nuts are jammed, no play, spin like a champ, but that's because I never imagined something that could actually go in there, grab those slots, yet allow me to get a socket on the wrench.


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#483 2020-03-28 8:54pm

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troynlori wrote:

Personally....I make the cone a hair loose and sit there and tighten just the nut....I do this multiple times, til I'm blue in the face, the magically the sun and moon line up.  The nuts are jammed, no play, spin like a champ, but that's because I never imagined something that could actually go in there, grab those slots, yet allow me to get a socket on the wrench.

Right? I’m looking at it wondering what the hell are people using for this lol

So I noticed tonight that one of my pedals tightened up so I’m adjusting it. I figured it tightened up because whoever packed them last didn’t jam them properly.

Okay, i did what you said, actually. I left the cone a little loose then tightened down really snug on the 12mm bolt. I’m not sure they’re jammed properly though so I’ll keep screwing with it.

Thanks for the quick advice!

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#484 2020-04-19 3:18pm

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

After reviewing this thread I decided to tackle a set of Suntour pedals and am super happy with the results!  The polishing of the pedal bodies was completed with a Dremel, small cloth polishing wheels and Blue Magic metal polish cream.  Following the advice found here, I definitely found better results using a lot of metal cream and keeping the polishing wheels and pedal bodies wet.  The polishing definitely gets messy at times.  I cleaned up the cages with the Dremel, files and 800 sandpaper.  I had the cages powder coated satin black and have decals on the way.  If you're considering doing this and have access to a large polishing wheel, I would recommend this using one on the open areas of the bodies to save some time....I didn't have access to one! 

Big shoutout to Dstinson, troynlori and Angelo01033 for posting their methods, advise and results here!  Thanks for the inspiration!

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GDub 33w wrote:

After reviewing this thread I decided to tackle a set of Suntour pedals and am super happy with the results!  The polishing of the pedal bodies was completed with a Dremel, small cloth polishing wheels and Blue Magic metal polish cream.  Following the advice found here, I definitely found better results using a lot of metal cream and keeping the polishing wheels and pedal bodies wet.  The polishing definitely gets messy at times.  I cleaned up the cages with the Dremel, files and 800 sandpaper.  I had the cages powder coated satin black and have decals on the way.  If you're considering doing this and have access to a large polishing wheel, I would recommend this using one on the open areas of the bodies to save some time....I didn't have access to one! 

Big shoutout to Dstinson, troynlori and Angelo01033 for posting their methods, advise and results here!  Thanks for the inspiration!

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … c59f26.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … c5b02c.jpg

You did a great job on those pedals.

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#486 2020-07-28 10:31am

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Suntour ad, BMX Action magazine October 1983
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#487 2020-12-25 9:41am

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

I didn’t find anything on this thread on the method to reshape the cages when they are bent up. Anyone have any suggestions?https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/82308/e982adb4-16c1-4e55-8215-d3623d98e2675fe6243ee2.jpeg


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#488 2020-12-25 10:11am

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

When they are bent that far, there is a high probability they will break when you try to straighten them.  I might make some new cages sometime during the winter or spring.  If so, I could give it a go, but I'm still saying there is a high probability I will break them.


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#489 2020-12-25 1:49pm

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

troynlori wrote:

When they are bent that far, there is a high probability they will break when you try to straighten them.  I might make some new cages sometime during the winter or spring.  If so, I could give it a go, but I'm still saying there is a high probability I will break them.

I have spares but let’s assume I have some not so bad as these, what methods do you use to reshape to original


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#490 2020-12-29 3:05pm

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

Ok so I didn’t get a response and decided to try and reshape these pedals myself. I use a small finish hammer and my vice and gently tapped the teeth flat then I use a round steel pipe and took and slightly tapped the cage around the pipe till it started to take shape again. I got it close. It’s not perfect but they are going on a rider. I feel confident that if I really took the time and spent more then 10 minutes on these I could get these perfect. Pics coming later.


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#491 2020-12-29 3:10pm

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Sorry man, didn't mean to leave you hanging.  Sounds like you got it figured out.  Here's my whole story:

https://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=677925


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#492 2020-12-29 3:38pm

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Sorry man, didn't mean to leave you hanging.  Sounds like you got it figured out.  Here's my whole story:

https://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=677925

Thanks, I will check that thread out later tonight before I rest the peepers.


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#493 2021-05-13 5:46pm

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kalel92198 wrote:

troynlori wrote:

Sorry man, didn't mean to leave you hanging.  Sounds like you got it figured out.  Here's my whole story:

https://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=677925

Thanks, I will check that thread out later tonight before I rest the peepers.

Those cages are available on ebay for $20 shipped.

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#494 2021-09-16 7:33pm

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Re: Detailed/How to. Restoration thread Suntour XCII pedal sets!

Great info in this post!

I have a pair of original (braced body) XC-II I'm getting ready to post for sale.  They have the typical scratches on the ends, need new bearings and are missing one of the end caps.  Otherwise, they're in nice condition.  No rust on the spindles, the cages aren't bent, and all the cage screws present. 

Can anyone tell me what size & how many bearings these take?  (I think they're 5/32" and 44 are required, but want to be sure before ordering.)

Thanks!

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#495 2021-09-16 7:40pm

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44 bearings 4 mm diameter.  Think Japanese....metric.


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