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#651 2021-03-22 3:43pm

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one piece crank wrote:

Anyone know what FC hub this is (2021 Haro Midway FC)? I got this bike for my son for Christmas - it is amazing bang for the buck, and the FC cassette engagement is super nice and quick.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … c6de3.jpeg

Pretty sure that's the same hub that Fit uses on their completes and sells as a separate wheelset.  Might even be the same wheelset with a different sticker.

If so, it's similar to an older KHE hub.  I have the Fit set and have had no issues with it after almost a year and a half.

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#652 2021-03-30 6:06pm

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Look what I found... big_smile

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#653 2021-03-31 5:36am

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nice! so it says patented planetary tech? think its different than the freenight/BSD coaster?


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#654 2021-03-31 7:12am

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When the new FC's say "no gap", this simply means no gap in forward/cassette mode, correct? No relation to rolling backwards and attempting to pedal-pressure-out, where there has to be a gap, no?

Just trying to keep a short list of FC's I'd like to try...

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#655 2021-03-31 9:22am

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As someone who actually does fakie tricks on both park & flat, I'd like to make a suggestion/guide. This is based off 35 yrs of riding suntour with unbrake and evolving along the way. Slop/gap/play is actually your friend if you're doing any serious fakie/rollback stuff. Clutch based freecoasters have the most "forgive" because they dont lock up like a cassette based hub.

Khe style clutch based:
Great for all types of riding. Still prefered by many park riders because they do have some forgiving qualities instead of ejecting you from the bike if you accidentally lean forward on the pedal

Cassette based:
Good for cruising, an occassional 180 or rockwalk. Also very good for flatland (salt/ezra) since they disengage as soon as you stop pedalling forward (no backpedal pedal set)
These are not so good for riders who do a ton of fakie stuff on street/park. Most cassette based hubs have very little play so its feast or famine. (You're cruising backwards at speed or you're on your ass cuz it bucked you) profiles are adjustable so they are better and the Far east has the most play but all cassette style can lock up once you lean forward. Far East/profile/madera are also a pain because you have to backpedal to set it.

WTP Hybrid:
This is an upgraded salt/ezra which is supposed to have the slack of a clutch based with the engagement of a cassette can't wait to try one.

Planetary:
These seem to be a real good design with good slack and solid disengagement. I have not ridden one yet so I cant give feedback, but would like to ride someones just to see how it feels.

Again, slop/play/gap isnt always a bad thing (if you actually ride and fakie a lot) most riders I know who do a ton of fakies and are better riders than myself all prefer slack.


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#656 2021-03-31 9:28am

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johnu773 wrote:

As someone who actually does fakie tricks on both park & flat, I'd like to make a suggestion/guide. This is based off 35 yrs of riding suntour with unbrake and evolving along the way. Slop/gap/play is actually your friend if you're doing any serious fakie/rollback stuff. Clutch based freecoasters have the most "forgive" because they dont lock up like a cassette based hub.

Khe style clutch based:
Great for all types of riding. Still prefered by many park riders because they do have some forgiving qualities instead of ejecting you from the bike if you accidentally lean forward on the pedal

Cassette based:
Good for cruising, an occassional 180 or rockwalk. Also very good for flatland (salt/ezra) since they disengage as soon as you stop pedalling forward (no backpedal pedal set)
These are not so good for riders who do a ton of fakie stuff on street/park. Most cassette based hubs have very little play so its feast or famine. (You're cruising backwards at speed or you're on your ass cuz it bucked you) profiles are adjustable so they are better and the Far east has the most play but all cassette style can lock up once you lean forward. Far East/profile/madera are also a pain because you have to backpedal to set it.

WTP Hybrid:
This is an upgraded salt/ezra which is supposed to have the slack of a clutch based with the engagement of a cassette can't wait to try one.

Planetary:
These seem to be a real good design with good slack and solid disengagement. I have not ridden one yet so I cant give feedback, but would like to ride someones just to see how it feels.

Again, slop/play/gap isnt always a bad thing (if you actually ride and fakie a lot) most riders I know who do a ton of fakies and are better riders than myself all prefer slack.

yes this! great way to put it! i always set it to max slack, once you get used to it you dont even notice. extra plus if someone jumps on your ride and tries to cheese they usually end up on the ground!


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#657 2021-03-31 6:06pm

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Im really anxious to try one of the planetary type coasters. Im fairly certain they won't work for me, but I've ridden pretty much  every type over the years so im curious. Still can't believe my Rush v2 is almost 8 years old! First seven years were flawless! Thanks again johnu for the much needed parts to keep it running a few months ago!


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#658 2021-03-31 6:18pm

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matt thomas wrote:

Im really anxious to try one of the planetary type coasters. Im fairly certain they won't work for me, but I've ridden pretty much  every type over the years so im curious. Still can't believe my Rush v2 is almost 8 years old! First seven years were flawless! Thanks again johnu for the much needed parts to keep it running a few months ago!

No worries. Im on my alienation still too for the park bike. My salt is popping but still runs fine on the flatty. Cant wait to see the WTP hybrid hub too. Jerry has one on order


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#659 2021-03-31 6:41pm

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matt thomas wrote:

Im really anxious to try one of the planetary type coasters. Im fairly certain they won't work for me, but I've ridden pretty much  every type over the years so im curious. Still can't believe my Rush v2 is almost 8 years old! First seven years were flawless! Thanks again johnu for the much needed parts to keep it running a few months ago!

No worries. Im on my alienation still too for the park bike. My salt is popping but still runs fine on the flatty. Cant wait to see the WTP hybrid hub too. Jerry has one on order

Unfortunately, in the coming months, or with any luck I'll make it until winter, but I'll be forced to decide if im going to lace the hub to a third rim. My wheel is getting pretty rough, 5 busted spokes since last may.


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#660 2021-04-01 6:27am

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Johnu773 - thanks for a great post. I’m new to FC’s and it’s hard to figure out all the internal hub differences and how they translate to riding. Ideally I need to test every type of hub. I’m currently riding a Primo Freemix, set to minimum slack. I like rollbacks and mild fakies so my goal was to replicate the feel of a coaster brake, and it’s pretty darn close.

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#661 2021-04-01 2:32pm

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Freemix is a clutch based. If you want a true coaster feel, take a few slack washers out. The extra play will be a lil more forgiving once you start getting really tech with rollback stuff


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#662 2021-04-01 3:24pm

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I have an old 48 hole Shimano coaster with Standard Un-brake. Maybe I should post a picture , for your pleasure. I think I may have a KHE coaster from early 2000's too...

I never really took to them. I always ran freewheels and cassettes. I guess I didn't spend enough time rolling backwards. lol


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#663 2021-06-02 5:39pm

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So has anyone got ahold of the WTP hybrid coaster yet? I'm beginning to think they got issues. I've been checking on recent WTP riders bike checks and none of em are riding the hybrid... am i paranoid?

here's one from today:

https://digbmx.com/dig-this/setups-lewi … -griffiths

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#664 2021-11-12 5:37pm

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Hey everyone.  It's been a hot minute.  Anything happening on the freecoaster front? cool

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#665 2021-11-12 6:54pm

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midschool22 wrote:

Hey everyone.  It's been a hot minute.  Anything happening on the freecoaster front? cool

I just picked up a Sweet one this evening but it will not let me post any pictures 😞

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#666 2021-11-12 8:17pm

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Well, I'm going back to coaster brake, but leaving the Freecoaster on one bike.

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#667 2021-11-13 9:17pm

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Anyone running the Venus yet?

I'm pretty sure I'm going with a LHD freecoaster on my new build.  The easy button is always Odyssey, but I'm still undecided.  It's hard to  differentiate what the "best" option is.  Most of them seem to be very similar.

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#668 2021-11-14 4:14am

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I would absolutely back the Planetary Hub you can pedal forwards whilst in fakie ffs! Then when you cab/whatever forward you have instant Cassette engagement!

I know James White is running the BSD one on his Flat Bike so they're not useless Flatland wise either.

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#669 2021-11-14 6:50am

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I finally got to ride a buddies far east coaster, definitely doesn't work for me. All i got out of it was two nicks on my right knee. Haha!


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#670 2021-11-14 9:02am

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I would absolutely back the Planetary Hub you can pedal forwards whilst in fakie ffs! Then when you cab/whatever forward you have instant Cassette engagement!

I know James White is running the BSD one on his Flat Bike so they're not useless Flatland wise either.

Have you ridding one? I'm confused if you can actually roll backwards AND pedal-engage out. Seems like this would NOT be possible if you can pedal forward while fakie/rolling-backwards????

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#671 2021-11-14 9:26am

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Pirate_Duck wrote:

I would absolutely back the Planetary Hub you can pedal forwards whilst in fakie ffs! Then when you cab/whatever forward you have instant Cassette engagement!

I know James White is running the BSD one on his Flat Bike so they're not useless Flatland wise either.

Have you ridding one? I'm confused if you can actually roll backwards AND pedal-engage out. Seems like this would NOT be possible if you can pedal forward while fakie/rolling-backwards????

From what I know about them, you cannot pedal out/use pedal pressure to get out of fakie. You'll need to half cab, use a brake or use body weight/momentum to return to rolling forward before you can engage the driver.

BSD & Freenight both have pretty good explanations & examples on their YouTube channels, you can see it working & then have it explained better than I can haha.

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#672 2021-11-24 7:05am

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matt thomas wrote:

I finally got to ride a buddies far east coaster, definitely doesn't work for me. All i got out of it was two nicks on my right knee. Haha!

What type is the far east?  and what type is the U-Free ?

I was looking at swapping to the far east but not sure

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#673 2021-11-24 3:29pm

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johnu773 wrote:

As someone who actually does fakie tricks on both park & flat, I'd like to make a suggestion/guide. This is based off 35 yrs of riding suntour with unbrake and evolving along the way. Slop/gap/play is actually your friend if you're doing any serious fakie/rollback stuff. Clutch based freecoasters have the most "forgive" because they dont lock up like a cassette based hub.

Khe style clutch based:
Great for all types of riding. Still prefered by many park riders because they do have some forgiving qualities instead of ejecting you from the bike if you accidentally lean forward on the pedal

Cassette based:
Good for cruising, an occassional 180 or rockwalk. Also very good for flatland (salt/ezra) since they disengage as soon as you stop pedalling forward (no backpedal pedal set)
These are not so good for riders who do a ton of fakie stuff on street/park. Most cassette based hubs have very little play so its feast or famine. (You're cruising backwards at speed or you're on your ass cuz it bucked you) profiles are adjustable so they are better and the Far east has the most play but all cassette style can lock up once you lean forward. Far East/profile/madera are also a pain because you have to backpedal to set it.

WTP Hybrid:
This is an upgraded salt/ezra which is supposed to have the slack of a clutch based with the engagement of a cassette can't wait to try one.

Planetary:
These seem to be a real good design with good slack and solid disengagement. I have not ridden one yet so I cant give feedback, but would like to ride someones just to see how it feels.

Again, slop/play/gap isnt always a bad thing (if you actually ride and fakie a lot) most riders I know who do a ton of fakies and are better riders than myself all prefer slack.

Look at the free night freecoaster hub.

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#674 2021-11-24 3:44pm

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OLDSCHOOLBMXER67 wrote:

johnu773 wrote:

As someone who actually does fakie tricks on both park & flat, I'd like to make a suggestion/guide. This is based off 35 yrs of riding suntour with unbrake and evolving along the way. Slop/gap/play is actually your friend if you're doing any serious fakie/rollback stuff. Clutch based freecoasters have the most "forgive" because they dont lock up like a cassette based hub.

Khe style clutch based:
Great for all types of riding. Still prefered by many park riders because they do have some forgiving qualities instead of ejecting you from the bike if you accidentally lean forward on the pedal

Cassette based:
Good for cruising, an occassional 180 or rockwalk. Also very good for flatland (salt/ezra) since they disengage as soon as you stop pedalling forward (no backpedal pedal set)
These are not so good for riders who do a ton of fakie stuff on street/park. Most cassette based hubs have very little play so its feast or famine. (You're cruising backwards at speed or you're on your ass cuz it bucked you) profiles are adjustable so they are better and the Far east has the most play but all cassette style can lock up once you lean forward. Far East/profile/madera are also a pain because you have to backpedal to set it.

WTP Hybrid:
This is an upgraded salt/ezra which is supposed to have the slack of a clutch based with the engagement of a cassette can't wait to try one.

Planetary:
These seem to be a real good design with good slack and solid disengagement. I have not ridden one yet so I cant give feedback, but would like to ride someones just to see how it feels.

Again, slop/play/gap isnt always a bad thing (if you actually ride and fakie a lot) most riders I know who do a ton of fakies and are better riders than myself all prefer slack.

Look at the free night freecoaster hub.

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#675 2021-11-25 6:04am

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NoJuice01 wrote:

matt thomas wrote:

I finally got to ride a buddies far east coaster, definitely doesn't work for me. All i got out of it was two nicks on my right knee. Haha!

What type is the far east?  and what type is the U-Free ?

I was looking at swapping to the far east but not sure

I had far east on the brain! I rode a buddies free night planetary coaster, and it definitely wont work for me.


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