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#101 2019-03-31 1:03pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

We're now comparing Suntour pedals to that junk that says SE on it?


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#102 2019-03-31 1:12pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

its-all-good wrote:

lol those "se" pedals are made by victor!

I mean come on. They still have the "VP" end caps on them.


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#103 2019-03-31 1:44pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

itsdug wrote:

We're now comparing Suntour pedals to that junk that says SE on it?

We're bored.


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#104 2019-03-31 1:46pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

its-all-good wrote:

its-all-good wrote:

lol those "se" pedals are made by victor!

I mean come on. They still have the "VP" end caps on them.

I think you are the only one that caught it.  lol

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#105 2019-03-31 6:49pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

its-all-good wrote:

its-all-good wrote:

lol those "se" pedals are made by victor!

I mean come on. They still have the "VP" end caps on them.

lollollollollol

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#106 2019-03-31 7:47pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

If the victor and Xc pedals are identical how are the victor pedals junk compared the the xc?


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#107 2019-03-31 7:53pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

kalel92198 wrote:

If the victor and Xc pedals are identical how are the victor pedals junk compared the the xc?

They aren't even close to being identical. Cheaper built and just a cheap copy. VP, Victor and SE are all the same. I think HTI tried to do a really close copy of the XC.


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#108 2019-03-31 7:58pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

kalel92198 wrote:

If the victor and Xc pedals are identical how are the victor pedals junk compared the the xc?

1 deference I noticed is there are 2 screws for the cages in the front half of the pedals on the victors. So 6 screws in total on the xc's, were as the Victor's only have 4 screws. Now I haven't used the Xc's but I do have a set of victors and they are junk. I  Hate them, worst beartraps I've owned. You can feel the cages move slightly because of the lack of hardware holding the cages. I personally think for comparable money Wellgo makes the best bear trap for cheap then odyssey triple traps 2nd. Victors suck

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#109 2019-03-31 8:30pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

I never heard about Sumo being made at the same plant as Araya rims. I did hear that CMC rims were made there. They are a cheaper option compared to Araya.

Anybody have any light to shine on CMC rims ?


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#110 2019-03-31 8:51pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

brackett wrote:

I never heard about Sumo being made at the same plant as Araya rims. I did hear that CMC rims were made there. They are a cheaper option compared to Araya.

Anybody have any light to shine on CMC rims ?

Or the Pro Class rim? I always thought they were Araya, but above states differently.


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#111 2019-03-31 10:11pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

Can't you see that we are talking pedal here!


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#112 2019-03-31 10:18pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

its-all-good wrote:

Can't you see that we are talking pedal here!

I'm going for a rim, but whatever...  lol

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#113 2019-03-31 10:23pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

I don't know for certain but the two sets I had back in the day seemed more delicate then my 7x .Would get bent way easier and side walls wore down faster .I would guess they used a softer less superior aluminum then araya . They were at least welded and not pinned .


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#114 2019-04-01 12:04am

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

Schmittstix wrote:

kalel92198 wrote:

If the victor and Xc pedals are identical how are the victor pedals junk compared the the xc?

1 deference I noticed is there are 2 screws for the cages in the front half of the pedals on the victors. So 6 screws in total on the xc's, were as the Victor's only have 4 screws. Now I haven't used the Xc's but I do have a set of victors and they are junk. I  Hate them, worst beartraps I've owned. You can feel the cages move slightly because of the lack of hardware holding the cages. I personally think for comparable money Wellgo makes the best bear trap for cheap then odyssey triple traps 2nd. Victors suck

DUDE, I have no idea what you're talking about. XCIIs had eight screws. The early Victor copies had eight screws. When Terry Cable introduced a tubular Cro-Mo square-taper crank, the promotional image had Victor eight-screw beartraps mounted.


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#115 2019-04-01 12:06am

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

hoplias wrote:

I don't know for certain but the two sets I had back in the day seemed more delicate then my 7x .Would get bent way easier and side walls wore down faster .I would guess they used a softer less superior aluminum then araya . They were at least welded and not pinned .

Same experience, but the first pinned BMX rim I saw was Sun Mistral (USA). I think Ambrosio might have been pinned but nobody I knew had them. Since I didn't notice the seem on the outside of Femco or CMC rims, I have to assume they were welded through the mid 80's until someone shows me evidence to the contrary.

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#116 2019-04-01 12:26am

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

Crashman wrote:

Schmittstix wrote:

kalel92198 wrote:

If the victor and Xc pedals are identical how are the victor pedals junk compared the the xc?

1 deference I noticed is there are 2 screws for the cages in the front half of the pedals on the victors. So 6 screws in total on the xc's, were as the Victor's only have 4 screws. Now I haven't used the Xc's but I do have a set of victors and they are junk. I  Hate them, worst beartraps I've owned. You can feel the cages move slightly because of the lack of hardware holding the cages. I personally think for comparable money Wellgo makes the best bear trap for cheap then odyssey triple traps 2nd. Victors suck

DUDE, I have no idea what you're talking about. XCIIs had eight screws. The early Victor copies had eight screws. When Terry Cable introduced a tubular Cro-Mo square-taper crank, the promotional image had Victor eight-screw beartraps mounted.

I'm pretty sure that's what I had on my Terry Cable Power Cranks when I first installed them. I wasn't fond of the bear trap style so I put DX pedals on instead. No idea where the bear traps went, but I did finally remember where the Power Cranks ended up. I traded them for a Sony Walkman 4, a Sony EQ amp and Sony earbuds. tongue

As for rims, always ran 7X, although I did have a pair of Ukai on one bike. Not too sure of Sumo rims, don't remember ever seeing any.

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#117 2019-04-01 8:03am

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

mitchtram wrote:

Knock offs suck, then and now. We just call them repops now.

That would be like calling a profile made Hutch a knock off Profile. 
hmm

lol Having owned a hutch, cracking it, and switching to Profile.  I love this point of view.


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#118 2019-04-01 8:06am

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

auldfart wrote:

Crashman wrote:

Schmittstix wrote:

1 deference I noticed is there are 2 screws for the cages in the front half of the pedals on the victors. So 6 screws in total on the xc's, were as the Victor's only have 4 screws. Now I haven't used the Xc's but I do have a set of victors and they are junk. I  Hate them, worst beartraps I've owned. You can feel the cages move slightly because of the lack of hardware holding the cages. I personally think for comparable money Wellgo makes the best bear trap for cheap then odyssey triple traps 2nd. Victors suck

DUDE, I have no idea what you're talking about. XCIIs had eight screws. The early Victor copies had eight screws. When Terry Cable introduced a tubular Cro-Mo square-taper crank, the promotional image had Victor eight-screw beartraps mounted.

I'm pretty sure that's what I had on my Terry Cable Power Cranks when I first installed them. I wasn't fond of the bear trap style so I put DX pedals on instead. No idea where the bear traps went, but I did finally remember where the Power Cranks ended up. I traded them for a Sony Walkman 4, a Sony EQ amp and Sony earbuds. tongue

As for rims, always ran 7X, although I did have a pair of Ukai on one bike. Not too sure of Sumo rims, don't remember ever seeing any.

The first thing I thought when I saw that ad was "Are these supposed to be cheap? If not, why use the cheap pedals?" Amazing how long a first impression can stick wink

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#119 2019-06-13 11:41pm

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Re: Why the lack of respect for SUMO Rims?

This is an early 80s possibly 1st gen Super Sumo-Suzue Set 20x1.75. Originally Laced to Suzue LPF Hubs.
Anyone familiar with Sumo's unstamped rim 1981-83??

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