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#201 2018-12-07 2:01pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

It’s clear that your bike is acceptable to them, but not to you. The best course of action IS to send it back and never buy one of their overpriced bikes in the future.

You’re not happy with your bike and they don’t want you as a customer. Let this thread serve as a warning to other buyers and move on.

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#202 2018-12-07 4:11pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Man, as it's been said a couple of times in this thread, you need a facebook account.  Todd Lyons posted in the last 10 minutes on the BMX museum page.    So he's definitely active over there.

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#203 2018-12-07 9:41pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Wow. Was really hoping this would turn out better for you Dutch. Seems they really don't give a shit about quality or respect as a brand. Lesson learned?? neutral


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#204 2018-12-07 11:16pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

With such an iconic name as PK , would have thought SE or whoever holds the reigns would have sorted this out in a prompt and timely manner ! What a shame and shambles neutral

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#205 2018-12-08 5:17am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

All things being said, I haven't played all my cards yet, for one I have legal assistance coverage next.

jpc wrote:

You’re not happy with your bike and they don’t want you as a customer. Let this thread serve as a warning to other buyers and move on.

I am happy with the bike, just not happy with the flaws and the total neglecting by SE, I told ASE if you can't fix the flaws by replacing just compensate in price then...it's simple. 

brucoh wrote:

Man, as it's been said a couple of times in this thread, you need a facebook account.  Todd Lyons posted in the last 10 minutes on the BMX museum page.    So he's definitely active over there.

Yeah, I guess I will cool

Last edited by DutchRipper (2019-03-11 3:30am)


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#206 2018-12-08 6:21am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

You’ve been offered fair recourse and you chose not to accept it. No other cards are going to get you anything.

I’m done with this one. I’m starting to understand why your dealer told you to send it back and move on.

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#207 2018-12-08 6:54am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

jpc wrote:

I’m done with this one. I’m starting to understand why your dealer told you to send it back and move on.

Then it is obvious to me you should apply for a job with ASE, you will fit perfect in their current system. smile


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#208 2018-12-08 8:38am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Were you offered a full refund or a store credit?

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#209 2018-12-08 12:01pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Its easy to see its all too hard for them because there's too many factors out of their hands.

Bikes made and assembled out of country by people who don't care.

Skyway sold to people who don't care and are producing crap.

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#210 2018-12-08 2:01pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

crj1968 wrote:

Were you offered a full refund or a store credit?

Do you mean store credit as in you have to spend the credited money at the same place were I ordered the PK? Haha no....I'm not even allowed to bring the bike back in person to that shop, let alone shop there for something else! tongue

They specifically said they only want me to ship the bike back even though it's only 1hr drive, then they will check it thoroughly and then they decide to refund, that was how it was explained to me.

I would never agree to that, too much work, mail damage possibilities, which they might blame on me being the jerks they are, then waiting for the money or even disputing etc. no thanks. He has on more occasions not lived up to his word.

I can always get my money back if I part it out.


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#211 2018-12-08 3:06pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Maybe they figured people would just keep them in the box for 15-20 years


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#212 2018-12-08 3:36pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Well one thing I know for sure, all the while when my Dealer showed available stock on the Perry Kramer, ASE kept dead quiet to me and now that the Perry Kramer has been sold out all of a sudden ASE shows up in the mail urging me to return the bike to the dealer.

So for several weeks they could have just replaced mine from the bikes in stock, and now that they are out of stock they react, can't do nothing and want it back....dirty games.


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#213 2018-12-08 4:12pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Dude.  You're in Amsterdam.  Piss on this whole deal and go get loaded on space cakes and bong hits.  Maybe even get you a hooker?   The SE we came to know and love as kids is dead!  The part out option is crap too.  Nothing on those bikes is worth anything really.  The cranks are nice but they're $80.  The mags are for display, the frame is jacked and the forks are a dime a dozen.  You're flogging a dead horse at this time.  Move on brother.  Next time buy the real deal olde school.  Lesson learned.

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#214 2018-12-09 3:53am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

You nailed it bro! big_smilebig_smilebig_smile

And Amsterdam rocks this time of the year, will try to hit a few shots. wink

Movin on for sure..... cool


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#215 2018-12-09 4:00am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

ps. anything else is better then returning it to Jerk & Co.


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#216 2018-12-09 5:05am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

DutchRipper wrote:

ps. anything else is better then returning it to Jerk & Co.

Cool - in lieu of you keeping it and it not being 'mint' collector condition, get out a ride it. Post some action shots as well.

Till then, over and out.

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#217 2019-01-04 1:23pm

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#218 2019-01-04 1:54pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

BRICKOS2 wrote:

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/d/murrieta-pk-ripper-2019-perry-kramer/6786474420.html

Not my ad smile

Figured as much or you must have been smokin crack tongue

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#219 2019-01-04 3:03pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

BRICKOS2 wrote:

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/d/murrieta-pk-ripper-2019-perry-kramer/6786474420.html

Not my ad smile

gross neutral


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#220 2019-01-04 3:06pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

DutchRipper wrote:

BRIAN HAYS wrote:

Wow...... This disappoints me.

crj1968 wrote:

Wow. That is messed up. So they basically told you to pack sand?

71cutlasss wrote:

Show the email or letter. If it’s an email screenshot it.

Yeah hard to believe he isn't it?

https://myalbum.com/photo/GvakAEAYm8Yo/550.jpg

So Dealer writes:

I won't be putting any more time in this.

Bla bla bla

I would appreciate it very much not to contact any further, also not with Advanced Sport or SE Bikes.

IT IS NOW FINISHED!

We go back to work, customers that are happy and that make us happy.

Greeting

dude.. post a screenshot of this convo on fb and watch it go viral. You'd get a very quick (and very kind) reply when they're blasted publicly.


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#221 2019-01-05 8:53am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

BRICKOS2 wrote:

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/d/murrieta-pk-ripper-2019-perry-kramer/6786474420.html

Not my ad smile

Keyword spam much? lol wow.


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#222 2019-01-05 12:09pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Spintech wrote:

dude.. post a screenshot of this convo on fb and watch it go viral. You'd get a very quick (and very kind) reply when they're blasted publicly.

Hi, I still have no facebook at this time, I feel some resistance within myself to just create an account for that purpose ....so I see that as last resort. And for the moment it is still in hands with my legal assistance coverage, I still have very good hopes they will get the SE Dealer to take action or compensate. smile

When he received the demanding letter from them, the SE Dealer wrote to them that he always wants his clients to have a descent product and that he had offered me to exchange the faulty parts for good ones and that because I didn't want to return those parts he was not able to fix it. Which is of course a big joke, because that was what I always wanted/requested the WHOLE time, I send him at least 4 mails with that request and I even offered him to return the parts on my costs, he didn't reply a single one of them. roll
So the email exchanging proves all that and it doesn't work in his favor that it is now very obvious that he lies about it. Next he will have to respond to the claim.


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#223 2019-01-05 12:20pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Use your wife's account smile

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#224 2019-01-05 12:52pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

capt.shred wrote:

Dude.  You're in Amsterdam.  Piss on this whole deal and go get loaded on space cakes and bong hits.  Maybe even get you a hooker?

DutchRipper wrote:

You nailed it bro! big_smilebig_smilebig_smile

And Amsterdam rocks this time of the year, will try to hit a few shots. wink

So here are some I for you cool :

https://myalbum.com/photo/KsvEQgYk6zP7/1k0.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/PoAiMFSmTH8w/1k0.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/Tvbz1VuTysRe/1k0.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/5uZV1XhTHSaT/1k0.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/TvHwkoqBqX0o/1k0.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/WKoCqloUzb6d/1k0.jpg


Ps. Anyone of you has a Perry Kramer 2019 coming in from Planetbmx?


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#225 2019-01-05 1:08pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Pics of the redlight district would be more interesting.


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