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#226 2018-05-07 11:01am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

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They are cheap these days, Parents are buying there kids scooters because they are cheaper then a bicycle. I've actually over heard scooter kids say "I wish my Parents would buy me a bicycle" when I'm riding at the skate park. But my whole point is there isn't too many kids that are going to spend over $500 on a unique custom BMX. So you see more of the generic stuff out in the streets.

not were I live. that must just be were you live. down here. parents buy there kids. a Decent complete BMX, to see if there really in to it.. then the kid saves up money or has a birth day. so dad takes the kid to bike shop. they slowly up grade the frame. with better parts. till the kid has a rad custom. the last thing swapped is frame.

Where's your 50 pics of kids upgrading their bikes?big_smile

I guess it depends on were you live. I practically live at my local bike shop. it's a BMX only bike shop. so I go almost every day to see whats new they got in stock.  I see lots of kids not even in high school buying new tall bars. or wheels , grips stem and other smalls.
guess you don't see that were you live. as for bikes all looking the same. every gen 70's to 2000 up has at lest 12 or 20 brands that look very much a like. till you learn the  differences.  that's nothing new. every one tends to barrow/ copy what is most popular at the time. then tweak it a little to say/ claim theirs is better then the rest out their.wink

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#227 2018-05-07 11:02am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

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The avg new school bike on the street all do look the same at least where I live. The reason is most kids are riding fairly inexpensive bikes in the $200-$500 range these days. Because Kids are at the mercy of their cheap ass parents, as jobs like paper routes and pumping gas are a thing of the past. So you aren't going to see the fancy high end bikes that often (Which Freak likes to cherry pick) that look different as only older 20 somethings with a job can afford.

Before you go "BUT THERE"S A MILLION DIFFERENCES YOUR JUST IGNORANT" yes once you learn the differences there are tons but here's the difference between old and NS. You could tell what kind of bike a OS rider was on over 30ft away even with taking the decals off! Now days you have to get right up to a bike and  pull out a magnifying glass neutral

A 200-500 $ bike is a cheap parent? Maybe to a spoiled little jackass

They are cheap these days, Parents are buying there kids scooters because they are cheaper then a bicycle. I've actually over heard scooter kids say "I wish my Parents would buy me a bicycle" when I'm riding at the skate park. But my whole point is there isn't too many kids that are going to spend over $500 on a unique custom BMX. So you see more of the generic stuff out in the streets.

Or possibly, NS kids who actually ride, are just riding... I think the 80's was an era where freestyle was fashion and riding.  It was new and flashy and had to be set apart from bmx racing.  Today, it's all about the frame, rims and tires.  NS kids see these double triangle bikes as just bikes.  If you ask them how they like the geometry, most wont know what youre talking about.  Ask them what model it is and they can tell you.  They want to fit in and frames that aren't double triangle make them an outcast.


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#228 2018-05-07 11:17am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

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Well there always was that "Rich Kid" down the street who's parents religiously bought them what ever they wanted. In my own case my Dad was so cheap that he bought me a banana seat bike at a garage sale for $5 and told me that's all I was getting. At the time no one rode banana seat bikes, and it wasn't until I got my first paper route that I was able to buy my first good BMX a GT PFT. Now days there's really no entry level jobs like that for kids anymore.

I know it's kinda ignorant of saying "they all look the same I've been guilty of it myself. But you look at all those bikes I just posted some are $100 some are $1000, but unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at well black is a generic as they come, and they do look alot alike.

unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at you can say that about any year bmx. their were some that stood out from the rest. more so in the 80's as they were throwing any thing at the wall. trying to find what worked or more like corporations trying to find  what sold best. then the 90's hit real rider owned company's pop up. caring more about what worked better for their riding style. then say sales. that might be why bikes started to look so much alike .. IE they found something that worked really well.held up to the style of riding and tricks they did. so the did not try much to improve on that no need to. till like 2012 when tricks got bigger harder combos.. then the wave tubing, sanko and other stuff evolved in BMX frames.

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#229 2018-05-07 11:25am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

FRESSTYLE FREEK wrote:

cbrstar wrote:

Well there always was that "Rich Kid" down the street who's parents religiously bought them what ever they wanted. In my own case my Dad was so cheap that he bought me a banana seat bike at a garage sale for $5 and told me that's all I was getting. At the time no one rode banana seat bikes, and it wasn't until I got my first paper route that I was able to buy my first good BMX a GT PFT. Now days there's really no entry level jobs like that for kids anymore.

I know it's kinda ignorant of saying "they all look the same I've been guilty of it myself. But you look at all those bikes I just posted some are $100 some are $1000, but unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at well black is a generic as they come, and they do look alot alike.

unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at you can say that about any year bmx. their were some that stood out from the rest. more so in the 80's as they were throwing any thing at the wall. trying to find what worked or more like corporations trying to find  what sold best. then the 90's hit real rider owned company's pop up. caring more about what worked better for their riding style. then say sales. that might be why bikes started to look so much alike .. IE they found something that worked really well.held up to the style of riding and tricks they did. so the did not try much to improve on that no need to. till like 2012 when tricks got bigger harder combos.. then the wave tubing, sanko and other stuff evolved in BMX frames.

It all comes down to knowledge and familiarity. Kids today will say all bike from the 80's look the same and that's primarily based on quick glances because in most cases they aren't learning old bikes nor do they care to. They will see what is different from what they know and that's about all.


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#230 2018-05-07 11:32am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

early 2000's  =  All black, all the same look, same geo's.....

Dan's Comp was a catalog selling all black completes with different stickers!

But companies finally came around and put uniqueness back in the game around 2010


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#231 2018-05-07 11:56am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

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early 2000's  =  All black, all the same look, same geo's.....

Dan's Comp was a catalog selling all black completes with different stickers!

But companies finally came around and put uniqueness back in the game around 2010

Maybe. Quick search of 2007 bikes. 8 bikes, 8 different companies
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54895af0a1041a.jpg
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http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54915af0a1041f.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54925af0a10419.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54935af0a104af.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54945af0a1049d.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54955af0a10467.jpg
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#232 2018-05-07 12:04pm

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

Same thing but 2002

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54975af0a34fdc.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54985af0a3503e.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_54995af0a3503d.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_55035af0a3503e.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_55045af0a35073.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_55055af0a350ad.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/56126/img_55065af0a350d4.jpg
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#233 2018-05-07 12:13pm

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

FRESSTYLE FREEK wrote:

cbrstar wrote:

Well there always was that "Rich Kid" down the street who's parents religiously bought them what ever they wanted. In my own case my Dad was so cheap that he bought me a banana seat bike at a garage sale for $5 and told me that's all I was getting. At the time no one rode banana seat bikes, and it wasn't until I got my first paper route that I was able to buy my first good BMX a GT PFT. Now days there's really no entry level jobs like that for kids anymore.

I know it's kinda ignorant of saying "they all look the same I've been guilty of it myself. But you look at all those bikes I just posted some are $100 some are $1000, but unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at well black is a generic as they come, and they do look alot alike.

unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at you can say that about any year bmx. their were some that stood out from the rest. more so in the 80's as they were throwing any thing at the wall. trying to find what worked or more like corporations trying to find  what sold best. then the 90's hit real rider owned company's pop up. caring more about what worked better for their riding style. then say sales. that might be why bikes started to look so much alike .. IE they found something that worked really well.held up to the style of riding and tricks they did. so the did not try much to improve on that no need to. till like 2012 when tricks got bigger harder combos.. then the wave tubing, sanko and other stuff evolved in BMX frames.

In the 80s and 90s you could tell a cheap bike from a good one much more easier. First thing there was a huge difference in the welds. But now even cheap bikes have good looking welds. Here's a pic of a walgoose mtb at my local shop.
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/234832/20180417_1709415af0a465de.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/234832/20180417_1709475af0a470f3.jpg
You can see the welding looks fancy but the tubing is thin and cheap which is why it failed.
Sanko tubing is just marketing hype. I've looked and there isn't a single piece of data or a single test that proves it's stronger. Even in the 80s there was triple buted tubing. But it's expensive so they don't use it often.

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#234 2018-05-07 12:18pm

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

cbrstar wrote:

FRESSTYLE FREEK wrote:

cbrstar wrote:

Well there always was that "Rich Kid" down the street who's parents religiously bought them what ever they wanted. In my own case my Dad was so cheap that he bought me a banana seat bike at a garage sale for $5 and told me that's all I was getting. At the time no one rode banana seat bikes, and it wasn't until I got my first paper route that I was able to buy my first good BMX a GT PFT. Now days there's really no entry level jobs like that for kids anymore.

I know it's kinda ignorant of saying "they all look the same I've been guilty of it myself. But you look at all those bikes I just posted some are $100 some are $1000, but unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at well black is a generic as they come, and they do look alot alike.

unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at you can say that about any year bmx. their were some that stood out from the rest. more so in the 80's as they were throwing any thing at the wall. trying to find what worked or more like corporations trying to find  what sold best. then the 90's hit real rider owned company's pop up. caring more about what worked better for their riding style. then say sales. that might be why bikes started to look so much alike .. IE they found something that worked really well.held up to the style of riding and tricks they did. so the did not try much to improve on that no need to. till like 2012 when tricks got bigger harder combos.. then the wave tubing, sanko and other stuff evolved in BMX frames.

In the 80s and 90s you could tell a cheap bike from a good one much more easier. First thing there was a huge difference in the welds. But now even cheap bikes have good looking welds. Here's a pic of a walgoose mtb at my local shop.
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … a465de.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … a470f3.jpg
You can see the welding looks fancy but the tubing is thin and cheap which is why it failed.
Sanko tubing is just marketing hype. I've looked and there isn't a single piece of data or a single test that proves it's stronger. Even in the 80s there was triple buted tubing. But it's expensive so they don't use it often.

This broken frame is aluminum,not hi ten or cromo.Nothing wrong with Sanko at all.The same thing can be said about supertherm tubing.


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#235 2018-05-07 12:22pm

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

spyker wrote:

cbrstar wrote:

FRESSTYLE FREEK wrote:


unless you know exactly what to look for and what you're looking at you can say that about any year bmx. their were some that stood out from the rest. more so in the 80's as they were throwing any thing at the wall. trying to find what worked or more like corporations trying to find  what sold best. then the 90's hit real rider owned company's pop up. caring more about what worked better for their riding style. then say sales. that might be why bikes started to look so much alike .. IE they found something that worked really well.held up to the style of riding and tricks they did. so the did not try much to improve on that no need to. till like 2012 when tricks got bigger harder combos.. then the wave tubing, sanko and other stuff evolved in BMX frames.

In the 80s and 90s you could tell a cheap bike from a good one much more easier. First thing there was a huge difference in the welds. But now even cheap bikes have good looking welds. Here's a pic of a walgoose mtb at my local shop.
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … a465de.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … a470f3.jpg
You can see the welding looks fancy but the tubing is thin and cheap which is why it failed.
Sanko tubing is just marketing hype. I've looked and there isn't a single piece of data or a single test that proves it's stronger. Even in the 80s there was triple buted tubing. But it's expensive so they don't use it often.

This broken frame is aluminum,not hi ten or cromo.Nothing wrong with Sanko at all.The same thing can be said about supertherm tubing.

There's nothing wrong with Sanko, but at the same time there's nothing to prove that it's superior. All Sanko means is that it was made at the Sanko factory in Japan, but if people want to pay a premium for that who am I to judge?

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#236 2018-05-07 12:25pm

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

cbrstar wrote:

spyker wrote:

cbrstar wrote:


In the 80s and 90s you could tell a cheap bike from a good one much more easier. First thing there was a huge difference in the welds. But now even cheap bikes have good looking welds. Here's a pic of a walgoose mtb at my local shop.
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … a465de.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … a470f3.jpg
You can see the welding looks fancy but the tubing is thin and cheap which is why it failed.
Sanko tubing is just marketing hype. I've looked and there isn't a single piece of data or a single test that proves it's stronger. Even in the 80s there was triple buted tubing. But it's expensive so they don't use it often.

This broken frame is aluminum,not hi ten or cromo.Nothing wrong with Sanko at all.The same thing can be said about supertherm tubing.

There's nothing wrong with Sanko, but at the same time there's nothing to prove that it's superior. All Sanko means is that it was made at the Sanko factory in Japan, but if people want to pay a premium for that who am I to judge?

Bikes made with supertherm cost a heck of alot more up here vs the ones made from Sanko.It might be different stateside though.Lets not forget these bikes are marketed for kids that don't know better.


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#237 2018-05-07 12:46pm

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

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cbrstar wrote:

spyker wrote:


This broken frame is aluminum,not hi ten or cromo.Nothing wrong with Sanko at all.The same thing can be said about supertherm tubing.

There's nothing wrong with Sanko, but at the same time there's nothing to prove that it's superior. All Sanko means is that it was made at the Sanko factory in Japan, but if people want to pay a premium for that who am I to judge?

Bikes made with supertherm cost a heck of alot more up here vs the ones made from Sanko.It might be different stateside though.Lets not forget these bikes are marketed for kids that don't know better.

With some bikes I think it's worth it like with Sundays 41 Thermo it gives you a lifetime warranty. But I've also heard complaints that some thermo treated bikes were too ridged causing them to snap in weird placed like the middle of the top tube.

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#239 2018-05-07 2:00pm

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cbrstar wrote:

spyker wrote:

cbrstar wrote:


There's nothing wrong with Sanko, but at the same time there's nothing to prove that it's superior. All Sanko means is that it was made at the Sanko factory in Japan, but if people want to pay a premium for that who am I to judge?

Bikes made with supertherm cost a heck of alot more up here vs the ones made from Sanko.It might be different stateside though.Lets not forget these bikes are marketed for kids that don't know better.

With some bikes I think it's worth it like with Sundays 41 Thermo it gives you a lifetime warranty. But I've also heard complaints that some thermo treated bikes were too ridged causing them to snap in weird placed like the middle of the top tube.

There comes a point when strong material is done with tubing that's too thin. Chromoly bends before it snaps like hi-ten and aluminum, but I would rather have a chromoly frame in the 5-6 pound range than a sub 5 pound range.


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#240 2018-05-07 4:17pm

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#241 2018-05-08 7:50am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

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cbrstar wrote:

sawdoff85 wrote:


A 200-500 $ bike is a cheap parent? Maybe to a spoiled little jackass

They are cheap these days, Parents are buying there kids scooters because they are cheaper then a bicycle. I've actually over heard scooter kids say "I wish my Parents would buy me a bicycle" when I'm riding at the skate park. But my whole point is there isn't too many kids that are going to spend over $500 on a unique custom BMX. So you see more of the generic stuff out in the streets.

Or possibly, NS kids who actually ride, are just riding... I think the 80's was an era where freestyle was fashion and riding.  It was new and flashy and had to be set apart from bmx racing.  Today, it's all about the frame, rims and tires.  NS kids see these double triangle bikes as just bikes.  If you ask them how they like the geometry, most wont know what youre talking about.  Ask them what model it is and they can tell you.  They want to fit in and frames that aren't double triangle make them an outcast.

I wouldn't say that's true. People pay a lot of attention to geometry now. And kids aren't picking double diamond bikes because they want to fit in; they're picking them because that is all that is (rightfully) available.

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#242 2018-05-08 8:48am

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as per the thread title... It's just you big_smile wink tongue lol cool cool cool

My old 2000 Quamen. Nothing ugly about this bike smile

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#243 2018-05-08 8:52am

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polterdeal wrote:

as per the thread title... It's just you big_smile wink tongue lol cool cool cool

My old 2000 Quamen. Nothing ugly about this bike smile

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … c6c53e.jpg

I think flat bikes from this era have way more "personality" than any other genres/timeframes


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#244 2018-05-08 9:09am

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early 2000's  =  All black, all the same look, same geo's.....

Dan's Comp was a catalog selling all black completes with different stickers!

But companies finally came around and put uniqueness back in the game around 2010

Most flatland frames of the time contradict this statement.


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#245 2018-05-08 10:48am

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One mid school ride I always coveted was the Hoffman Condor.

https://hoffmanbikes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Mat-Hoffman-1991-Big-Air.jpg

I remember seeing this pic on the cover of I think BMX plus? but it blew me away. After that every other bike seemed inferiour to me. The problem was where I lived you couldn't get one! The bike store in the big city (Edmonton lol) had the frame and forks on the wall but they jacked the price to something stupid like $2000 because they knew everyone wanted one.

(Borrowed this pic for the net)

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#246 2018-05-08 11:00am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

cbrstar wrote:

One mid school ride I always coveted was the Hoffman Condor.

https://hoffmanbikes.com/wp-content/upl … ig-Air.jpg

I remember seeing this pic on the cover of I think BMX plus? but it blew me away. After that every other bike seemed inferiour to me. The problem was where I lived you couldn't get one! The bike store in the big city (Edmonton lol) had the frame and forks on the wall but they jacked the price to something stupid like $2000 because they knew everyone wanted one.

(Borrowed this pic for the net)

http://www.snakebitebmx.com/wp-content/ … condor.jpg

2K just for the frame and fork? I hope this place is out of business,places like this don't deserve to be supported by the community.


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#247 2018-05-08 12:39pm

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

spyker wrote:

cbrstar wrote:

One mid school ride I always coveted was the Hoffman Condor.

https://hoffmanbikes.com/wp-content/upl … ig-Air.jpg

I remember seeing this pic on the cover of I think BMX plus? but it blew me away. After that every other bike seemed inferiour to me. The problem was where I lived you couldn't get one! The bike store in the big city (Edmonton lol) had the frame and forks on the wall but they jacked the price to something stupid like $2000 because they knew everyone wanted one.

(Borrowed this pic for the net)

http://www.snakebitebmx.com/wp-content/ … condor.jpg

2K just for the frame and fork? I hope this place is out of business,places like this don't deserve to be supported by the community.

Yeah they are long gone, and I think a different shop actually opened in the same location called Red bike. The original shop seemed to have more skateboards then bikes.

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#248 2018-05-09 6:17am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

Super-Pawl wrote:

made2drag wrote:

cbrstar wrote:


They are cheap these days, Parents are buying there kids scooters because they are cheaper then a bicycle. I've actually over heard scooter kids say "I wish my Parents would buy me a bicycle" when I'm riding at the skate park. But my whole point is there isn't too many kids that are going to spend over $500 on a unique custom BMX. So you see more of the generic stuff out in the streets.

Or possibly, NS kids who actually ride, are just riding... I think the 80's was an era where freestyle was fashion and riding.  It was new and flashy and had to be set apart from bmx racing.  Today, it's all about the frame, rims and tires.  NS kids see these double triangle bikes as just bikes.  If you ask them how they like the geometry, most wont know what youre talking about.  Ask them what model it is and they can tell you.  They want to fit in and frames that aren't double triangle make them an outcast.

I wouldn't say that's true. People pay a lot of attention to geometry now. And kids aren't picking double diamond bikes because they want to fit in; they're picking them because that is all that is (rightfully) available.

True, but an average kid starting out or 2 years in, would likely not know.  Most brands are so close in geo now, that it really doesn't even matter what they pick anymore.  20.5, 13.5, 75* is a standard.  It comes down to a decal and color now.  Brand is high on their list.  Full chromoly for kids that can pay it, trimoly for a smaller budget. A double top tube or framestand NS isn't really exciting to a NS kid.  Just extra weight.


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#249 2018-05-09 8:25am

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Re: is it just me? or are late 90's-early 2000' bmx bikes ugly as #@#@!

made2drag wrote:

Super-Pawl wrote:

made2drag wrote:


Or possibly, NS kids who actually ride, are just riding... I think the 80's was an era where freestyle was fashion and riding.  It was new and flashy and had to be set apart from bmx racing.  Today, it's all about the frame, rims and tires.  NS kids see these double triangle bikes as just bikes.  If you ask them how they like the geometry, most wont know what youre talking about.  Ask them what model it is and they can tell you.  They want to fit in and frames that aren't double triangle make them an outcast.

I wouldn't say that's true. People pay a lot of attention to geometry now. And kids aren't picking double diamond bikes because they want to fit in; they're picking them because that is all that is (rightfully) available.

True, but an average kid starting out or 2 years in, would likely not know.  Most brands are so close in geo now, that it really doesn't even matter what they pick anymore.  20.5, 13.5, 75* is a standard.  It comes down to a decal and color now.  Brand is high on their list.  Full chromoly for kids that can pay it, trimoly for a smaller budget. A double top tube or framestand NS isn't really exciting to a NS kid.  Just extra weight.

That’s not true. Go to the skate park and ride 3 or more bikes, even with the frames looking similar they will be noticeably different

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