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1993 Basic Big City Bastard

#1 2020-01-03 9:11am

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1993 Basic Big City Bastard

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1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Steve Roy's Team-ridden Basic 'Big City Bastard,' from 1996's "Highroller 5: Beer, Sex & BMX" video

It took me nearly three years to refinish this frame and assemble the parts for the build. I've been looking for this bike for a long, long time.

So -- the story goes something like this.
This bike was originally supposed to be a 1992 Gardner-made Standard Lengthy. But for whatever reason -- whether quality control issues or an addiction to Ford Mustangs -- several framesets and tube-sets never made it to SBC. Enter Cecil Milligan and Darcy Saccucci. These Canadian upstarts bought the remaining stock from Gardner and in true Dirt Bros. fashion, decal'd and sold them under their own brand: Basic Bikes.
This particular frame was one of a few tube-sets purchased by Basic, and welded up in Vancouver Canada. Most of the first-gen Basic Bikes were factory-finished in a satin chrome. But this bike, having been a raw steel tube set, never had a factory finish, and its original owner, Steve Roy, just spray-bombed it. (from the layers of paint removed, I believe it was originally black. Sometime before 'Beer, Sex & BMX' it was repainted navy blue, and a built-in seatpost clamp was added.) When I received the incomplete bike, it was metallic lime green, and had been spray-bombed many times.
Since there was never a factory colour to return it to, I chose a deep metallic red much like the candy apple red of the NOS Basic Small-Town Hick seen in the Snakebite BMX article on the history of Basic Bikes. The decals are my reproductions of the Basic STH (even though yes, this is a Big City Bastard.) This is mostly because I came from a small Ontario farming community, so I am truly a Small-Town Hick at heart. I added the large Poor Boy logo on the top tube as Steve had, and as an homage to his later '90s company, I added the original 1664 BMX decal at the base of the top tube.
Wherever possible, I have used parts that came on this bike as I received it, some of which I am certain date to when Steve owned the bike (for instance, the Peregrine SuperPro's, and the front Primo V-Monster, scuffed nearly bald) and some of which do not (such as the very cool S&M Stupid fork, which was on the bike when I got it, but which Steve himself has stated he never used.) Any parts original to the bike are marked below with an asterisk.
More pictures and references in the comments section.
Frame: 1992-93 Gardner-made Basic Big City Bastard, welded up by Toby's Cycleworks in Vancouver.*Fork: S&M Stupid / Menstrual fork.*Stem: polished S&M 1" Redneck.* Bars: 1988 Haro kneesavers. (Thanks Colin!) Bar Ends: CamAcura.*Grips: New ODI Longnecks, and A'me Tri Hitchhiker protectors.Wheels: Peregrine SuperPro.*Axles: SBC sealed for Suzue hubs.*Tires: (front) Primo V-Monster.* (rear) ACS RL Edge. (thanks Colin!) Brakes: Dia-Compe AD990 front and rear.*Brake Pads: Scott-Matthauser (front) Dia-Compe (rear)*Brake Plate: CamAcura.*Levers: Japan Dia-Compe tech 77's*Crank: GT Power Series OPC, 175mm.*Pedals: GT DX.*Chainwheel: Tuf-Neck, 41t.Power Disc: Sugino.Seatpost: SBC.*Seat: GT, cut. (thanks, Colin!) Detangler: SST Oryg.*Chain: Black KMCPegs: Basic Silencers (note in picture #6, front pegs have been modified, with additional holes drilled.) *Custom decals: Basic STH set (incl. downtube, top tube, head tube, seat tube.) Poor Boy logo, custom 'Stupid Fork' decals, Basic "NHL" logo on bars, Basic "small b" logo on bars, and Club Homeboy Buckwheat on bars.
Thanks, and acknowledgements: Colin Ashe, Cecil Milligan, Steve Roy, Attila Sarlosi, Ryan Linskill

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43! Ahahahahahaha... 43.

WTB (long-term projects): 'Dave Cullinan' Robinson f/f, Homeless Mack SL, S&M Bennett or Menstrual.

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#2 2020-01-03 9:12am

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Partial conversation with Mr. Steve Roy himself.

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43! Ahahahahahaha... 43.

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#3 2020-01-03 9:12am

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Conversation about the frame with Cecil Milligan of Basic Bikes

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43! Ahahahahahaha... 43.

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#4 2020-01-03 9:13am

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Detail -- Custom Stupid Fork decal

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43! Ahahahahahaha... 43.

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#5 2020-01-03 9:17am

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Some anomalies about this frame (likely due to it being partially manufactured by Gardner, and then assembled by Toby's.

1) all tubes that intersect the bottom bracket pierce the BB shell. Member suicidepan says this is very uncommon, and only on a very few Gardner-SBC frames.
2) the welds and assembly are actually better than the Gardner product, which were in some cases pretty sloppy. (It's like finding a stack of needles in a stack of needles...)
3) The second cable guide on the down tube is actually a stop, even though the lug exists to pass the cable thru the BB. See below.

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#6 2020-01-03 11:00am

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Killer bike Dan! Very well done.


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#7 2020-01-03 11:05am

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

This is amazing.  Basics are fascinating to me and this is a beautiful example.

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#8 2020-01-03 11:27am

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Dave and Rodney -- thanks so much you guys! This one was the one I had been looking for. The big one. Thanks for the kind words.


43! Ahahahahahaha... 43.

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#9 2020-01-03 1:18pm

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

FRESH!!! Congrats!


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#10 2020-01-03 1:20pm

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

OG'89 wrote:

Some anomalies about this frame (likely due to it being partially manufactured by Gardner, and then assembled by Toby's.

1) all tubes that intersect the bottom bracket pierce the BB shell. Member suicidepan says this is very uncommon, and only on a very few Gardner-SBC frames.
2) the welds and assembly are actually better than the Gardner product, which were in some cases pretty sloppy. (It's like finding a stack of needles in a stack of needles...)
3) The second cable guide on the down tube is actually a stop, even though the lug exists to pass the cable thru the BB. See below.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … 7654f0.jpg

My Sluggo has these piercings in the BB shell as well. Thought my STH did too! I'll check.


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#11 2020-01-03 5:43pm

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This is fantastic with a awesome story. Congrats! cool


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#12 2020-01-03 8:19pm

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

now that's sick!!!!cool


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#13 2020-01-12 6:54am

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Look killer Dan. I’m almost done with the satin chrome finish on my 92-93 BCB.…it’s starting to come together nicely…Let me know about the decal guy.…thanx!

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#14 2020-01-13 12:27pm

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reignsainth -- PM sent!


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#15 2020-01-26 4:20am

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This bike makes non Canadians wish they were Canadian.  That’s one of those rare rabbit hole bikes.  I miss 1994-96!


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#16 2020-02-03 8:47am

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Historic bike. Thanks for sharing all the details. Very cool.

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#17 2020-06-22 2:16pm

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

I love this.cool


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#18 2021-01-05 5:48am

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That’s proper SEXY TIME cool


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#19 2021-01-30 4:33pm

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Re: 1993 Basic Big City Bastard

Awesome! yikes

Those pegs...coolbig_smilecool

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