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#1 2019-05-13 10:33am

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going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

or just barely or something...


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Electric vehicles will barely help cut CO2 emissions in Germany over the coming years, as the introduction of electric vehicles
does not necessarily lead to a reduction in CO2 emissions from road traffic. Natural gas combustion engines are the ideal
technology for transitioning to vehicles powered by hydrogen or “green” methane in the long term.


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#2 2019-05-13 10:36am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

Just more bullshit propaganda funded by the big oil companies.


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#3 2019-05-13 10:42am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

......and here i thought it was because the study came from some old white guys.

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#4 2019-05-14 7:04am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?


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#5 2019-05-14 8:37am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

Where I live,electricity comes from water spinning the turbines in a hydrodam.


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#6 2019-05-14 10:20am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

spyker wrote:

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

Where I live,electricity comes from water spinning the turbines in a hydrodam.

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#7 2019-05-14 10:20am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

Disposal and making of batteries is more costly to the environment. Plus, still made partially of metal which is mined and made at a foundry..  jusayin'


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#8 2019-05-14 10:21am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

itsdug wrote:

spyker wrote:

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

Where I live,electricity comes from water spinning the turbines in a hydrodam.

Hippies roll

lollol


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#9 2019-05-14 10:23am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

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Disposal and making of batteries is more costly to the environment. Plus, still made partially of metal which is mined and made at a foundry..  jusayin'

Edit; which is no big deal when you ship your garbage to say, the Philippines lol

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#10 2019-05-14 10:55am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

itsdug wrote:

spyker wrote:

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

Where I live,electricity comes from water spinning the turbines in a hydrodam.

Hippies roll

Unfortunately agree! Wish we could use nuclear reactors instead.


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#11 2019-05-14 11:20am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

The sun?

So, How many solar panels does it take to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The average cost for residential solar panels is around $3.30 per Watt installed. If you need 10 x 250 Watt solar panels to charge your Tesla 3, the total wattage you'll need to charge it is 2500 Watts

$8,250.00 or approx cost of building a sweet PK


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#12 2019-05-14 11:54am

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

CanadianCollector wrote:

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

The sun?

So, How many solar panels does it take to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The average cost for residential solar panels is around $3.30 per Watt installed. If you need 10 x 250 Watt solar panels to charge your Tesla 3, the total wattage you'll need to charge it is 2500 Watts

$8,250.00 or approx cost of building a sweet PK

Where we live,solar panels are useless,we barely see the sun 9 months of the year.


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#13 2019-05-14 12:12pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

spyker wrote:

CanadianCollector wrote:

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

The sun?

So, How many solar panels does it take to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The average cost for residential solar panels is around $3.30 per Watt installed. If you need 10 x 250 Watt solar panels to charge your Tesla 3, the total wattage you'll need to charge it is 2500 Watts

$8,250.00 or approx cost of building a sweet PK

Where we live,solar panels are useless,we barely see the sun 9 months of the year.

You guys live in the same place, yes?


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#14 2019-05-14 12:14pm

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#15 2019-05-14 12:17pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

Kurt_Rad wrote:

spyker wrote:

CanadianCollector wrote:


The sun?

So, How many solar panels does it take to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The average cost for residential solar panels is around $3.30 per Watt installed. If you need 10 x 250 Watt solar panels to charge your Tesla 3, the total wattage you'll need to charge it is 2500 Watts

$8,250.00 or approx cost of building a sweet PK

Where we live,solar panels are useless,we barely see the sun 9 months of the year.

You guys live in the same place, yes?

We live in the same city.


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#16 2019-05-14 12:17pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

Wonder what the tree hugging snob hipppies have to say about this?


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#17 2019-05-14 1:34pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

Don't believe a meme from a red plate...the tar sand area looks like

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou … 2451011607


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#18 2019-05-14 1:36pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

spyker wrote:

CanadianCollector wrote:

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

The sun?

So, How many solar panels does it take to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The average cost for residential solar panels is around $3.30 per Watt installed. If you need 10 x 250 Watt solar panels to charge your Tesla 3, the total wattage you'll need to charge it is 2500 Watts

$8,250.00 or approx cost of building a sweet PK

Where we live,solar panels are useless,we barely see the sun 9 months of the year.

We have plenty enough solar energy, The City of Vancouver gets 1007 kWh/kW, Maple Ridge might get a bit less...


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#19 2019-05-14 2:17pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

People often only see one side of the oil and tar sand industry...the one that provides focus on the negative. But...


https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/r … ands-mines


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#20 2019-05-14 2:43pm

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No electric car can allow me to enjoy the lifestyle I do so they can piss off. I travel thousands of kilometres on my holidays, often 18 hours driving straight to get to my destinations towing a boat or camper. My refuel takes 5 minutes. I can’t see any electric getting me that distance, towing, in the same time. How long does it take to recharge an electric vehicle and what is there range sitting on 110-130km/h towing.

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#21 2019-05-14 3:11pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

Kurt_Rad wrote:

People often only see one side of the oil and tar sand industry...the one that provides focus on the negative. But...


https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/r … ands-mines

Your first picture is misleading. Take a look at google earth for yourself and you can see what Alberta has really done to the ground.


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#22 2019-05-14 3:22pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

CanadianCollector wrote:

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

The sun?

So, How many solar panels does it take to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The average cost for residential solar panels is around $3.30 per Watt installed. If you need 10 x 250 Watt solar panels to charge your Tesla 3, the total wattage you'll need to charge it is 2500 Watts

$8,250.00 or approx cost of building a sweet PK

Only because it is subsidized.


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#23 2019-05-14 3:23pm

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Take a look at this and explain to the rest of the world that the red plates are eco-friendly. roll lol

https://www.google.ca/maps/@57.0464402, … e3!5m1!1e1


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#24 2019-05-14 3:26pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

troynlori wrote:

CanadianCollector wrote:

changachump wrote:

Electric vehicles are essentially coal-fired vehicles.  Where do people think the electricity comes from?

The sun?

So, How many solar panels does it take to charge a Tesla Model 3?
The average cost for residential solar panels is around $3.30 per Watt installed. If you need 10 x 250 Watt solar panels to charge your Tesla 3, the total wattage you'll need to charge it is 2500 Watts

$8,250.00 or approx cost of building a sweet PK

Only because it is subsidized.

Quite the assumption, but even if it was, this is still your cost, for now.


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#25 2019-05-14 3:27pm

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Re: going to an electric vehicle does not reduce CO2

Not hardly.


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