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1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

#1 2018-11-09 2:44pm

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1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Trying to fill in the last of my Diamond Back collection with a 1983 Viper.  I found the one pictured below in Ebay and was hoping I could get help from folks here on what needs to be done.  I found the decal set and know I have a lot of cleaning to do.  I haven't been able to find a factory parts list for it so I'm not sure if I need to replace anything or not.  I would really appreciate any insight, thank you in advance.  Jason.

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#2 2018-11-09 3:18pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Looks all stock to me. Had a survivor 84 Viper with all the same parts. Only difference I see is the seat...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/1979_photos/lock%20down/dns/84%20Viper/1.jpg


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#3 2018-11-09 3:27pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

https://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/diamond_back/43926

83 Viper with the Aero Seat. guessing the DB seat didn't come out until 84


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#4 2018-11-09 3:34pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Very helpful, thank you for the picture!  Do you know what the seat post clamp was?

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#5 2018-11-09 3:50pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Suntour style. No markings...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/1979_photos/lock%20down/dns/84%20Viper/15b.jpg


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#6 2018-11-09 3:56pm

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Nice looking project, it looks like it will clean up sweet. cool

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#7 2018-11-15 8:56am

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Nice work, I have a Super Viper I need to clean up.

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#8 2019-02-09 1:06pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Okay, so this may be one of the slowest clean-up projects ever.  But was able to get the decals taken off:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viper1a5c5f40c26a.jpg
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viper4a5c5f40c260.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viper5a5c5f40c25b.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viper6a5c5f40c246.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viper7a5c5f40c2dc.jpg

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#9 2019-02-09 1:07pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

And then did the OA bath (as described in the Museum tagged post about it).  Put it all in (along with an extra set of handelbars) yesterday and let it sit over night.  Just hung them up to let them dry off.

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#10 2019-02-09 8:43pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Scrub it all down with warm soapy water to neutralize the OA. Garden hose through the main tubes to flush would help also.


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#11 2019-02-09 8:48pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Wd 40 or Pb Blaster in the tubes when it dries.  Prevent rusting from the inside


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#12 2019-02-10 7:07am

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Great advice, thank you!

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#13 2019-02-10 5:49pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Here are couple of after pictures (I tried doing the before/after splice but it didn't go so well).

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https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viper12a5c60d487e0.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viper13a5c60d48816.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viper14a5c60d48775.jpg
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#14 2019-02-10 8:00pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Next problem I've run into, the set of Viper decals I bought aren't sticking.  I bought these from a gentleman in Australia back in October.  Does anyone have an opinion on what happened here?  I am thinking that maybe I waited too long to install them (October to now)?

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#15 2019-02-10 8:04pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Whenever I apply new decals I use a blow dryer to warm up the metal a little and then apply. It helps make the glue on the decals a little more tacky and helps them stick better. My two cents hope it helps

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#16 2019-02-10 8:20pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Thank you, next set I will try that!

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#17 2019-02-10 8:23pm

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#18 2019-02-10 8:26pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

jberg27 wrote:

Next problem I've run into, the set of Viper decals I bought aren't sticking.  I bought these from a gentleman in Australia back in October.  Does anyone have an opinion on what happened here?  I am thinking that maybe I waited too long to install them (October to now)?

What method did you use ? Did you use soapy water or did you just go for it and hope for the best ?


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#19 2019-02-10 11:28pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

4months sitting on a shelf shouldn’t shorten the longevity of a quality made decal.

I’m hoping you didnt get those $38 Australian decal setson eBay.  Those are very poor quality.  Decals are too thick, poor printing and poor adhesion.

However, if you got a set from Warren @ bmxproducts.com.au  then you might want to contact him.  His decals are excellent.

Another decal supplier I’d suggest would be delcals.com out of the UK.


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#20 2019-02-11 5:16am

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Glenn, my second set is with Delcals (like you recommended to me months ago); I've had great experience with him.  And to confirm your suspicions it was the $35 Australia special.  From now on I'm sticking with Delcals and GT350.

Brackett, I started with the fork decals so I just went for it and hoped for the best.  Of course, I actually go those to line up perfectly and then they peeled....

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#21 2019-02-17 10:52am

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

So I've got a new set of decals coming in and am getting the chainguard repainted, here is where I am at so far.  I am more of a collector than a restorer, so please keep in mind this is not my specialty (but this has been fun).  I need to figure out what to do with the pedals,I tried cleaning them up but still looking pretty rough.  Rareair, what type of pedals are supposed to be on this?

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#22 2019-02-17 10:54am

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Also, I am soliciting advice on the wheels (see below).  Any advice on how to clean these up would be appreciated?  At this point, I am kind of feeling like I am going to accept them as they are and call it a day.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/243454/viperupdate4a5c69ade2b0.jpg
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#23 2019-02-17 11:56am

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

My ‘83 Viper had HTI MX pedals
https://bmxmuseum.com/image/s-l16095747b92d2a_blowup.jpg


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#24 2019-02-17 11:57am

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Thank you!

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#25 2019-02-20 9:36pm

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Re: 1983 Diamond Back Viper Clean-up Project

Rims look pitted and flaking in spots. Just some chrome polish, a rag and time if you really want to shine them up


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