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#1 2018-10-26 7:02am

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2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

This thread should have been about displaying the beauty of the bike, but then issues spoil the Party.

Now it serves as a Warning...in my case SE failed to take Responsibility and the Issues weren't solved, NO Warranty was supplied even though I claimed Warranty in accordance to the Warranty Policy on their website.

Picture out of the box:

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/236417/img_20181024_175047b5c8574cfdd.jpg

Unsolved issues:

https://myalbum.com/photo/fsTyoQ5Yg5eG/540.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/QOGqryJ2BZkN/540.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/KE04psualy0I/540.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/IAI2MRLf1NVQ/540.jpg

SOLVED issues (details page 11):

https://myalbum.com/photo/RUH1gI3lY6Zg/540.jpg

https://myalbum.com/photo/RA8vZQ80avFq/540.jpg

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#2 2018-10-26 7:27am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

big_smile Awesome!!


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#3 2018-10-26 8:00am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

I truly want one of these but......


Hey FLIPPERS, go ahead and keep selling everything SE, GJS and Nomura to Thailand. Once it's gone it's NEVER coming back to the US.

If I hear the words "RARE" or "GRAIL" one more time, I'm gonna f'n puke.

What does "near NOS" even mean???

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#4 2018-10-26 12:34pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Nice I wanted one too.

thanks for sharing.

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#5 2018-10-26 1:53pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Thanks for the nice comments!

BUT it's not all shine.....there are issues to solve before it's all good, SE lacked quality control again. roll

Can't stress enough to check the contents your SE bike in the box...

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#6 2018-10-31 11:38am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Ok what happened, so among the issues was a very untrue Tuff 2 rearwheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdtEaOw5HK0

I've never seen one that bad and I wonder how it ever got passed the quality check unless there was none. It has production date march 2018 so it is new production from this CEW company that took over Skyway. Anyway it was agreed to send back the wheel to swap for another one, so it should be solved alright.

While removing the rearwheel I got another bad surprise.....even though the big golden billet dropoutsaver washers were on the bike when it arrived, they were hiding that some IDIOT has also fixed the rearwheel prior using only those ugly gripnuts straight on the dropout, which has resulted in the nut's gripsurface eaten it's way through the coating into the aluminium:

https://myalbum.com/photo/fsTyoQ5Yg5eG/540.jpg

Not only that, one side has been tightened down so extremely fest because the aluminium of the dropout deformed to the point were the dropout became too narrow for the axle:

https://myalbum.com/photo/QOGqryJ2BZkN/540.jpg

Obviously I blame SE for this.....I mean common, this really doesn't make any sense. If the bike was designed/sold with billet dropout washers why haven't they been used from the start on the bike to prevent things like this happening and how incompetent must a person be that he felt it was necessary to tighten a steel nut on an aluminium dropout so fest you had to use a breakerbar to loosen it.

Other things I was also not happy about is the damage on the handlebar (wrapping was still good, so must be from Factory) and the offset logo on the stempad yikes :

https://myalbum.com/photo/KE04psualy0I/540.jpg
https://myalbum.com/photo/IAI2MRLf1NVQ/540.jpg

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#7 2018-10-31 11:47am

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

For the $ they are asking for these I myself would not except anything but a pristine piece. Send that frame back and get what you paid for. Looks like they used it as a how NOT to install wheels demo. Come on SE, the quality of your bikes should reflect the heritage of the brand hmm


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#8 2018-10-31 12:10pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Bummer. Doubt your supplier will be able to do much. Wonder why the rear Tuff was so out of shape? Rear tri bent at all? For the money and issues I'd roll the dice on a full replacement and hope all's good with the next one.


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#9 2018-10-31 12:13pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

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#10 2018-10-31 12:57pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

1979 wrote:

Bummer. Doubt your supplier will be able to do much. Wonder why the rear Tuff was so out of shape? Rear tri bent at all?

The rear tri looks all good and the box too so I'm pretty sure it just came from the molding process bad already.


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#11 2018-10-31 1:27pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

This screams replacement mad Totally unacceptable!
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/179814/a04828fa-1df9-4d5b-99ba-0fa70aba8a005bda0fee84.jpeg

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#12 2018-10-31 1:44pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

I'd be pissed.


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#13 2018-10-31 2:52pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

I'm pissed for sure and I already let my supplier know + the European SE Distributor that I will not accept it.

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#14 2018-10-31 2:58pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

And FYI the STR-24 that I bought recently was fully replaced because of these issues:

- Damaged and untrue front rim (box was damaged from Distributor to Supplier, yet they forwarded it to me)
- Light damage on rear rim
- Black dots in paint
- Loosening paint + rust under the top headset cup
- Headset couldn't be aligned well
- Very bad chromejob on the handlebar


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#15 2018-10-31 3:31pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

The dropout gouges are just sloppy quality control. roll

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#16 2018-10-31 3:47pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

I'd be getting ahold of Todd Lyons and or Perry Kramer through facebook or whatever and make sure they both see this stuff. For the price they are getting for these, it is completely unacceptable. I bought a brand new 2007 retro PK from my LBS and the rear Skyway rim on it was way "bent" too. They had to send the wheel back for a replacement. Also have bought four other SE Bikes between 2004 and 2015ish and the decal installs on two of the four were horrifically wrinkled up and crooked. This stuff is NOT acceptable at the price point SE gets for their bikes.


Hey FLIPPERS, go ahead and keep selling everything SE, GJS and Nomura to Thailand. Once it's gone it's NEVER coming back to the US.

If I hear the words "RARE" or "GRAIL" one more time, I'm gonna f'n puke.

What does "near NOS" even mean???

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#17 2018-10-31 3:52pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Having said that, I'll give you $400 American dollars for yours. big_smile


Hey FLIPPERS, go ahead and keep selling everything SE, GJS and Nomura to Thailand. Once it's gone it's NEVER coming back to the US.

If I hear the words "RARE" or "GRAIL" one more time, I'm gonna f'n puke.

What does "near NOS" even mean???

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#18 2018-10-31 3:54pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

SE must think people who buy their products are idiots(wheelie kids being the exception).Seeing these pics makes people think twice about buying their products.


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#19 2018-10-31 3:56pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

BRIAN HAYS wrote:

I'd be getting ahold of Todd Lyons and or Perry Kramer through facebook or whatever and make sure they both see this stuff. For the price they are getting for these, it is completely unacceptable. I bought a brand new 2007 retro PK from my LBS and the rear Skyway rim on it was way "bent" too. They had to send the wheel back for a replacement. Also have bought four other SE Bikes between 2004 and 2015ish and the decal installs on two of the four were horrifically wrinkled up and crooked. This stuff is NOT acceptable at the price point SE gets for their bikes.

Brian,I f SE continues to sell their products like this,they might as well become a department store brand.


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#20 2018-10-31 3:57pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Dang that sucks

You get all pumped and then the big let down.  Made / Assembled in China?

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#21 2018-10-31 6:00pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Overall I like SE Bikes, had a # of them in last 10 years. In fact seeing '08 OM at a shop back in '08 is actually what got me back riding.

Someone mentioned the chrome on the bars not being so good. I noticed that on the completes, the chrome finish on bars is so-so, but if you buy the same SE bars individually / aftermarket, the chrome is show quality.

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#22 2018-10-31 6:04pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Yikes!


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#23 2018-10-31 6:47pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Anyone know how the rear wheels are put on? Automated assembly line or an individual employee with an impact type tool. Someone at some point really tore that up and then attempted to hide it. You deserve a new compete replacement and an apology.

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#24 2018-10-31 6:51pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Too bad can't find someone getting same bike that plans to beat on the bike / ride it hard, swap frames....

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#25 2018-10-31 7:02pm

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Re: 2019 Perry Kramer P.K. Ripper Looptail Frame Pictures

Assuming they used pneumatic tools to assemble these, and nobody adjuster the regulator....still doesn't account for those nut marks on the outside. I'm guessing an alignment jig is the culprit there. I'd also like to see if someone else's are the same way. Those bars and pad are wack as well.


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