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#1 2017-12-26 12:52pm

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Gonna build an old Mongoose

I've been doing up mid-school cruisers as of late; they seem to still be cheap and plentiful, and I am a cruiser guy. Seeing some of the great builds and survivor finds around here got me thinking about doing a 20 though. But what kind? I wanted to do a period build, but all the quads, Pks, and Trickstars I lusted after as a teen, where out of my price range to do them how I wanted.

Some bikes you see when you are a kid are just burned in your memory as rad.  Those few bikes that make an impression on a young mind help define what cool means the rest of your life. In 1980 I was 9 years old, and was riding around on my crap Kent. It wasn't legit, and I knew it. I remember the one older kid in the neighborhood that could actually ride had a Mongoose. That bike was so cool to my 9 year old mind. I remember it distinctly. The black Tuffs. The shiny silver frame and prism decals. The 3 piece cranks. I wanted one sooo bad, and would covet every Goose I saw. I asked for one for X-mas every year, until 1983, when I finally got one of the first of the new style Californians. Although that bike served me very well for many years, I always had a soft spot for the older gusset geese.

I noticed the prices for stuff from that era seemed to be cheaper than the mid eighties stuff, so I started putting a build together in my mind. It would have to be a goose, with tuffs, and that was as far as I got with it as the cruiser projects kept falling into my lap. It was still gonna be expensive, and since I'm a cheapskate, the idea was put on the back burner. This all changed when I scored this set of Tuff lls for $20:

https://image.ibb.co/nxEAEm/570.jpg

Now I had something to go on! I started doing my homework on old Gooses, and looking around for a decent nickel/chrome frame. I splurged a bit, and found a nice '78 Motomag with it's original nickel finish (thanks Radman!)

I'm going to do it as a circa 80-82 rider, what a modified Goose from the era might have been. My grail build when I was 11. Here's where I'm at at the moment:


https://image.ibb.co/mPrdum/thumbnail_20.jpg

I scored the 171mm Sugino Mighty cranks for cheap. The nickel finish on the frame is in great shape, but the stickers are repops. The forks are a beat up set of Rampars, and are correct for the period. I am determined to keep it (relatively) cheap, and will be adding old parts as I find them.

The hardest bits to find are gonna be a black, 44-45t 144 bcd chainwheel for the Suginos, and a decent stem that won't break the bank. I am gonna get a set of CW pro bars, as I love the look, and I remember them being all the rage around then. Yes I know Tuff lls are not correct, but I don't care....

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#2 2017-12-26 1:01pm

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Re: Gonna build an old Mongoose

cool


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#3 2017-12-26 1:02pm

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cool


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#4 2017-12-26 1:24pm

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Re: Gonna build an old Mongoose

Poppitticus wrote:

The hardest bits to find are gonna be a black, 44-45t 144 bcd chainwheel for the Suginos

Amazon has a 144bcd 44t Vuelta chainring in black.  $35.


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#5 2017-12-26 1:25pm

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...and I seem to have pruned out the rest of my post before I clicked the button.

The build looks great so far, keep the pics coming!


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#6 2017-12-26 1:56pm

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Glad your happy with the frame. Nice score on the Skyways!


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#7 2017-12-26 2:35pm

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It's your bike man do it your way. You can always upgrade it/down date it at another time.


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#8 2017-12-26 4:13pm

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Nice man! Your story is EXACTLY like mine. Except I rode a Free Spirit lol. But in 85 I got my red Cali. Anyway, I'm also building an old goose with black tuffs. Very cool, good luck with the build!


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#9 2017-12-26 4:15pm

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THAT build will bring back some great memories! Cant wait to see it done!

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#10 2017-12-26 4:30pm

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Thats gonna look good,  what are you thinking for pedals.


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#11 2017-12-27 11:43am

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Re: Gonna build an old Mongoose

RandolphCarter wrote:

Poppitticus wrote:

The hardest bits to find are gonna be a black, 44-45t 144 bcd chainwheel for the Suginos

Amazon has a 144bcd 44t Vuelta chainring in black.  $35.

I saw those, I'm gonna try to hold out for an old ano ring. Both Sugino and Takagi made them. Good to know I can go that route if I have to

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#12 2017-12-27 11:57am

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Looks like you are off to a good start. smile

Keep us all updated on the progress......


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#13 2017-12-27 12:04pm

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Indyjps wrote:

Thats gonna look good,  what are you thinking for pedals.

I want a pair of black MKS pedals. I'm a bit wary of buying vintage pedals sight unseen, and black ones are rarer than the the other colors it seems. I might have to go repo.

I like the Suntour/Victor beartraps, but they didn't really come on the scene until late 83, judging by the old mags.

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#14 2017-12-27 12:06pm

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Repos are great for riding, you don't sweat it when they scratch smile

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#15 2017-12-29 2:17pm

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Just picked up a Suntour broken arrow clamp. Bit by bit.....


https://image.ibb.co/dFUXuw/suntour.jpg

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#16 2017-12-29 4:03pm

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Poppitticus wrote:

Just picked up a Suntour broken arrow clamp. Bit by bit.....


https://image.ibb.co/dFUXuw/suntour.jpg

Nice!


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#17 2017-12-29 4:04pm

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Masterful build up!


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#18 2017-12-29 4:16pm

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Following this one. Love an old Goose.

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#19 2017-12-29 4:54pm

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Oh, yeah, very similar story to yours as well. I rode a '80 Pro Thunder II. However never got my Californian until last year and got my Motomag the year before. Love them both. Great build. Keep us updated

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#20 2017-12-29 5:19pm

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Spang wrote:

Oh, yeah, very similar story to yours as well. I rode a '80 Pro Thunder II. However never got my Californian until last year and got my Motomag the year before. Love them both. Great build. Keep us updated

My older brother had a pro thunder, and it was a way more solid, tougher bike than my junk Kent.

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#21 2018-01-10 9:49pm

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Some progress this week:

https://image.ibb.co/nRbLe6/thumbnail_26_ll.jpg



The circa 82-ish SR stem didn't break the bank, and is in great shape.

https://image.ibb.co/gEgWmm/thumbnail_23_ll.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/d3BxRm/thumbnail_19_6ll.jpg


The chainwheel proved to be a lot tougher however. I HAD to have this nos Sugino Mighty 45t in ano black. I paid dearly, and it cost me more than the cranks did. The cranks were a bit of an impulse buy; I loved the look, they were clean, and they were cheap. I knew going in the 144bcd was going to be odd, but I thought the look would be worth it. The arms are straight, and I'm a little worried about clearing the frame with the 130mm spindle the conversion bb kits come with. It's gonna be tight.

https://image.ibb.co/myQrmm/thumbnail_25_ll.jpg


I'm still not decided on pedals, and the CW pro bars I'm after are proving elusive....


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#22 2018-01-10 9:55pm

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this will be cool to watch being built.


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#23 2018-01-10 10:40pm

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Rat traps would be sweet

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#24 2018-01-10 11:25pm

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BRICKOS2 wrote:

Rat traps would be sweet

I'm trying to class up this joint!

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#25 2018-01-11 1:28am

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Poppitticus wrote:

The cranks were a bit of an impulse buy; I loved the look, they were clean, and they were cheap. I knew going in the 144bcd was going to be odd, but I thought the look would be worth it. The arms are straight, and I'm a little worried about clearing the frame with the 130mm spindle the conversion bb kits come with. It's gonna be tight.

130mm is PLENTY of clearance... I have a 113mm bb spindle on an '85 Predator and have lots of clearance room... You should be good there... big_smile  I love a good Goose build... big_smile  I'm in...


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