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#1 2017-11-26 12:46pm

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Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

Hmmm. cool

Posted by John B on a Facebook Haro group.

"We hope to have these lineage Kneesaver bars out by June 2018."

11 butted, fully heat treated
8.5"
3 degrees up, 10 degress back
28.5" wide
Black/Chrome & Turquoise/Chrome
27.50oz
MSRP: $129.99

Sample photo below, only pinned for show. Welded painted version sample soon.

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#2 2017-11-26 1:00pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

yikesyikesbig_smilebig_smilecoolcool


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#3 2017-11-26 1:31pm

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You can get OG ones for that price! smile


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#4 2017-11-26 1:52pm

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There should be a option for raw since they look good without paint! But I will settle on blcak/chrome.


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#5 2017-11-26 1:52pm

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CHAMPION-26 wrote:

You can get OG ones for that price! smile

Not brand new or with NS geo.


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#6 2017-11-26 2:11pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

spyker wrote:

CHAMPION-26 wrote:

You can get OG ones for that price! smile

Not brand new or with NS geo.

+1. The geometry on these is MUCH better than OGs for new school riders.  And you don't have to worry about damaging them like OGs.

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#7 2017-11-26 2:15pm

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crash test dumby wrote:

spyker wrote:

CHAMPION-26 wrote:

You can get OG ones for that price! smile

Not brand new or with NS geo.

+1. The geometry on these is MUCH better than OGs for new school riders.  And you don't have to worry about damaging them like OGs.

I'm definately buying a set.Too bad no raw option though.


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#8 2017-11-26 2:16pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

"3 degrees up, 10 degress back"......'What is this???1987?...they did the same thing with the repooped Peregrine bars!!sad


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#9 2017-11-26 3:10pm

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flatland1974 wrote:

"3 degrees up, 10 degress back"......'What is this???1987?...they did the same thing with the repooped Peregrine bars!!sad

Huhhhh, that's new school geometry.  The Peregrine bars have 17 degrees backsweep, THATS 1987 geometry.

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#10 2017-11-26 3:31pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

flatland1974 wrote:

"3 degrees up, 10 degress back"......'What is this???1987?...they did the same thing with the repooped Peregrine bars!!sad

Exactly. Why the hell are they making "new" bars like this???


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#11 2017-11-26 4:21pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

I like the polished raw look. Should have some options like that.


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#12 2017-11-26 4:27pm

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spyker wrote:

CHAMPION-26 wrote:

You can get OG ones for that price! smile

Not brand new or with NS geo.

But if you want knee savers you should be looking to use them on an old school build... After all that's when they originated. There's plenty of new school style bars available.

They don't have to be brand new ( They wouldn't match the finish on your old bike )
And that style bar shouldn't be NS Geometry anyway...
Do all of the Old School parts have to be Copied and Twisted into New School.
Since most New School Riders think Old School Stuff is Gimmicky and Crappy anyway...Why Copy an Old School Part and make it Nre School then.

Yes these comments may spark the same Old School VS New School Debate that has been Battled out here Over & Over & Over again... With no Winner on Either Side...Just different Opinions.    And this is mine. smile


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#13 2017-11-26 4:30pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

crash test dumby wrote:

flatland1974 wrote:

"3 degrees up, 10 degress back"......'What is this???1987?...they did the same thing with the repooped Peregrine bars!!sad

Huhhhh, that's new school geometry.  The Peregrine bars have 17 degrees backsweep, THATS 1987 geometry.

WHAT?...10 Degrees is new school????.....lol...maybe for street or ramp......This place is really starting to get fooked up with miss info.


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#14 2017-11-26 4:35pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

crash test dumby wrote:

flatland1974 wrote:

"3 degrees up, 10 degress back"......'What is this???1987?...they did the same thing with the repooped Peregrine bars!!sad

Huhhhh, that's new school geometry.  The Peregrine bars have 17 degrees backsweep, THATS 1987 geometry.

Oh wait.....I just checked your "bikes"...funny ...you don't have ANY Flatland bikes?...I really should  of "assumed" that your were speaking overall...NOT just about what YOU know about YOUR bikes!


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#15 2017-11-26 4:37pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

Those angles are spot on. That price seems inflated - I wonder if that is the fake price so that the street price looks more reasonable?
The old ones were garbage. And kept getting worse throughout the 1990s. But they sure looked cool, and were iconic. So John fixed them. Well done. I would definitely consider these (at a lower price).
Ride UK magazine once had an article that served as a cheeky how-to which I believe was entitled "How to make Haro bars rideable." The gist of the article was that the owner should lay them on the ground and jump on them until the sweep was more reasonable.


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#16 2017-11-26 4:40pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

flatland1974 wrote:

crash test dumby wrote:

flatland1974 wrote:

"3 degrees up, 10 degress back"......'What is this???1987?...they did the same thing with the repooped Peregrine bars!!sad

Huhhhh, that's new school geometry.  The Peregrine bars have 17 degrees backsweep, THATS 1987 geometry.

WHAT?...10 Degrees is new school????.....lol...maybe for street or ramp......This place is really starting to get fooked up with miss info.

You are assuming that these are being marketed to flatlanders, or that they should be.


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#17 2017-11-26 4:43pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

wadeaminute wrote:

Those angles are spot on. That price seems inflated - I wonder if that is the fake price so that the street price looks more reasonable?
The old ones were garbage. And kept getting worse throughout the 1990s. But they sure looked cool, and were iconic. So John fixed them. Well done. I would definitely consider these (at a lower price).
Ride UK magazine once had an article that served as a cheeky how-to which I believe was entitled "How to make Haro bars rideable." The gist of the article was that the owner should lay them on the ground and jump on them until the sweep was more reasonable.

And if one wants to RIDE these...they'd have to do the same!!lol...just get one of the MANY great frame builders in the states or overseas to build EXACTLY what specs you NEED and not "settle" for....and probably get them cheaper!!!


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#18 2017-11-26 4:46pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

wadeaminute wrote:

flatland1974 wrote:

crash test dumby wrote:


Huhhhh, that's new school geometry.  The Peregrine bars have 17 degrees backsweep, THATS 1987 geometry.

WHAT?...10 Degrees is new school????.....lol...maybe for street or ramp......This place is really starting to get fooked up with miss info.

You are assuming that these are being marketed to flatlanders, or that they should be.

NO....No real flatlander would ride these in comfort...They are being marketed to COLLECTORS...(with $$$)..and most don't know SHIT about riding!'


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#19 2017-11-26 4:46pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

CHAMPION-26 wrote:

spyker wrote:

CHAMPION-26 wrote:

You can get OG ones for that price! smile

Not brand new or with NS geo.

But if you want knee savers you should be looking to use them on an old school build... After all that's when they originated. There's plenty of new school style bars available.

They don't have to be brand new ( They wouldn't match the finish on your old bike )
And that style bar shouldn't be NS Geometry anyway...
Do all of the Old School parts have to be Copied and Twisted into New School.
Since most New School Riders think Old School Stuff is Gimmicky and Crappy anyway...Why Copy an Old School Part and make it Nre School then.

Yes these comments may spark the same Old School VS New School Debate that has been Battled out here Over & Over & Over again... With no Winner on Either Side...Just different Opinions.    And this is mine. smile

What about the retro NS builds? Four piece bars have been popular for a while now with the NS crowd.There is no official rule stating you have to build a bike a certain way or what era parts are permitted to put on what bike.Build it up the way you want it.

There is nothing wrong with making something old new again,it opens up a new market and more choices for people,which is a good thing.


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#20 2017-11-26 4:48pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

wadeaminute wrote:

Those angles are spot on. That price seems inflated - I wonder if that is the fake price so that the street price looks more reasonable?
The old ones were garbage. And kept getting worse throughout the 1990s. But they sure looked cool, and were iconic. So John fixed them. Well done. I would definitely consider these (at a lower price).
Ride UK magazine once had an article that served as a cheeky how-to which I believe was entitled "How to make Haro bars rideable." The gist of the article was that the owner should lay them on the ground and jump on them until the sweep was more reasonable.

The Colny Kuebars don't seem to be selling to well due to their OS geo.Glad Haro decided not to go that route.


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#21 2017-11-26 4:51pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

flatland1974 wrote:

wadeaminute wrote:

flatland1974 wrote:


WHAT?...10 Degrees is new school????.....lol...maybe for street or ramp......This place is really starting to get fooked up with miss info.

You are assuming that these are being marketed to flatlanders, or that they should be.

NO....No real flatlander would ride these in comfort...They are being marketed to COLLECTORS...(with $$$)..and most don't know SHIT about riding!'

Bob the original kneesavers were designed for all around riding.The pros used them for flatland,vert,dj and street riding.It was a one size fits all bar.


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#22 2017-11-26 4:56pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

spyker wrote:

CHAMPION-26 wrote:

spyker wrote:


Not brand new or with NS geo.

But if you want knee savers you should be looking to use them on an old school build... After all that's when they originated. There's plenty of new school style bars available.

They don't have to be brand new ( They wouldn't match the finish on your old bike )
And that style bar shouldn't be NS Geometry anyway...
Do all of the Old School parts have to be Copied and Twisted into New School.
Since most New School Riders think Old School Stuff is Gimmicky and Crappy anyway...Why Copy an Old School Part and make it Nre School then.

Yes these comments may spark the same Old School VS New School Debate that has been Battled out here Over & Over & Over again... With no Winner on Either Side...Just different Opinions.    And this is mine. smile

What about the retro NS builds? Four piece bars have been popular for a while now with the NS crowd.There is no official rule stating you have to build a bike a certain way or what era parts are permitted to put on what bike.Build it up the way you want it.

There is nothing wrong with making something old new again,it opens up a new market and more choices for people,which is a good thing.

All Valid Points as well... And like you said there are no Rules.
But just because you Can... Doesn't mean you Should.       I just wish there were OS, MS, and NS... and none of this Hybrid/Repop Stuff. hmm


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#23 2017-11-26 5:03pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

spyker wrote:

flatland1974 wrote:

wadeaminute wrote:


You are assuming that these are being marketed to flatlanders, or that they should be.

NO....No real flatlander would ride these in comfort...They are being marketed to COLLECTORS...(with $$$)..and most don't know SHIT about riding!'

Bob the original kneesavers were designed for all around riding.The pros used them for flatland,vert,dj and street riding.It was a one size fits all bar.

Neil...I know..I still have my OG Haro bars to this day.(1988)...BUT if they had "RIDERS"in mind..they would of never put those "cool looking"...but painfull elf ears on the bottom part or the bars...we had to grind off of tape up the fooking things cause they HURT!!...I taped mine off...got VERY  pissed off at the backsweep...moved on to a different set..1989...


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#24 2017-11-26 5:09pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

flatland1974 wrote:

spyker wrote:

flatland1974 wrote:


NO....No real flatlander would ride these in comfort...They are being marketed to COLLECTORS...(with $$$)..and most don't know SHIT about riding!'

Bob the original kneesavers were designed for all around riding.The pros used them for flatland,vert,dj and street riding.It was a one size fits all bar.

Neil...I know..I still have my OG Haro bars to this day.(1988)...BUT if they had "RIDERS"in mind..they would of never put those "cool looking"...but painfull elf ears on the bottom part or the bars...we had to grind off of tape up the fooking things cause they HURT!!...I taped mine off...got VERY  pissed off at the backsweep...moved on to a different set..1989...

Bob I understand what you're saying.But would like to hear your opinion on how they should have made these bars to better fit the current riders.


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#25 2017-11-26 5:12pm

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Re: Haro kneesaver fans rejoice! 2018's inside.

LOL first time I've heard them being called "elf ears".Always refered to them as kneecutters.


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