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#76 2017-04-22 4:58pm

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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Thx DutchRipper smile
No, the Performer is still like a virgin, waiting for the right day wink
Will do some custome works on it before starting the outdoor season.
Including a chrome layback seatpost and a also chrome Performer handlebar.
Would like to swap the U-Brake against a Dia-Compe AD990.
Will also mounting a front brake - not sure which model, but Dia-Compe for sure!
Not sure about the pedals...maybay swapping against Shimano DX or Suntour XC2 (copies).
Preparing to build a GT Mallet for 1 1/8" by my own...
As you can see, a lot of work to do (and no time for it... hmm).

Relating to the weight I can say that it seems to be more lighter than heavy.
Someone wrote in a parallel thread 31 pounds (about 14 kg), but I'm not able to confirm this, sorry.

I'm doing something similar with the brakes... 990 rear and Nippon front with Tech 7 levers

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#77 2017-04-23 3:34am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

Great choice!
You're right: The mounted lever(s) seems much to short, in design as well as in handling, because they're difficult to grap it (related to the long grips).
I'm preparing to mount Dia-Compe 183 levers (named Tech 6 ?).
Not sure about the design of Tech 7 levers...maybe they've the same lenght!?
Regarding my already finished 26" Performer out of 2012 I've learned that only long levers matching the "big" design - just my two cents... wink

By the way:
Greetings to Sweden!!!
My 87 years old uncle lives there. He has has been escaped from war in the 40's out of Silesia (Germany)...as a 12 or 13 year old little boy on his own - very hard times sad
But Sweden was willing to give him a chance ... so he was able to build up his own life in your land - thanks for this smile


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#78 2017-04-23 8:16am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

oldschool_bmx_freestyler wrote:

Great choice!
You're right: The mounted lever(s) seems much to short, in design as well as in handling, because they're difficult to grap it (related to the long grips).
I'm preparing to mount Dia-Compe 183 levers (named Tech 6 ?).
Not sure about the design of Tech 7 levers...maybe they've the same lenght!?
Regarding my already finished 26" Performer out of 2012 I've learned that only long levers matching the "big" design - just my two cents... wink

By the way:
Greetings to Sweden!!!
My 87 years old uncle lives there. He has has been escaped from war in the 40's out of Silesia (Germany)...as a 12 or 13 year old little boy on his own - very hard times sad
But Sweden was willing to give him a chance ... so he was able to build up his own life in your land - thanks for this smile

You might be right on the levers... Tech 7 are shorter, but I've a set of longer ACS Tangents I can try if the  7s seem too small. But anything is nicer than the stock ones. I fancied a gyro though, so needed to drill the headtube to take gyro tabs. But nerve racking to do but simple enough.9

I moved to Sweden from the UK myself, nearly 20 years ago... love it to say the least!

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#79 2017-04-24 1:45am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

tfi_friday wrote:

I fancied a gyro though, so needed to drill the headtube to take gyro tabs. But nerve racking to do but simple enough.

Hehe, I also would like to integrate a Gyro, but my hands begin sweating only by the thought about drilling the head tube tongue
...but hey, there is a NOS 1 1/8" Gyro Rotor in a box here, waiting for the day to get in use...we will see lol

tfi_friday wrote:

I moved to Sweden from the UK myself, nearly 20 years ago... love it to say the least!

If I understand aright, then you're saying "I love Sweden", right!?
During some visits to my uncle I was able to see, that the time in Sweden seems to run different.
In other words: much more relaxed and easy going, without the daily "faster, higher and wider" stress, what seems to be a normal and essential behaviour in our states.
I've met a Canadian guy there (Fireman), emigrated years ago from Canada to Sweden.
And he told me, that Sweden is nearly the same place for him, because of the countryside.
Now there is the Brexit, and all seems to become more crazy... hmm

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#80 2017-04-30 4:10pm

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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Little update:
By, by ballon tires - welcome 26x1,75 Panaracer big_smile
Also very welcome is a chromed layback, now.
I've tried to swap the white handlebar against a chromed one, but the result wasn't as expected... hmm
So the white one can stay wink

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/p_20170430_17353659066e14e2.jpg

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#81 2017-04-30 8:11pm

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

What panaracer tyres are they?

I changed the black bolts on the cranks and polished the Spindles bolts a little to get a more original look to the cranks, also Black decals. Compared to my original SR Power Series:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OuPJT61wJR0/WQaqCq4r6yI/AAAAAAAAEh4/ANRl5_foowE034VeWnaOAOHI-RWdwC1qwCHM/s640/blogger-image-1398184758.jpg

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#82 2017-05-01 6:52am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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Replacing the clamping bolts and polishing the axle bolts is a very good idea big_smile

Would like trying to "dye" the lasered writing on the cranks arms, because decals are scratch-sensitive (like the original print) and will start peeling.
But for sure: Your result is looking awesome!

Maybe an other crank sprocket (with bigger diameter and a matching wheel sprocket) could underline the old school design...!? roll

As you can see, I've also replaced the original stem against an "Affix"-System.
I don't like those visible clamping bolts, widening the side view of the stem to an unsightly appearance (far away from old school look).
Also I'm missing those cube-design with a nearly flat plate on the front (without those upper clamping plate).
The Affix-System using an "unvisible" clamp integrated (currently appears like a silver stripe on the photo), having just one bolt at the side.

Tyres I'm using are these one:
Panaracer Pasela Tire, 26 x 1.75
(You can get them as a "Foldable" and a "Wire Bead" version...I have both version: nearly the same weight, and the wire-bead-version is much cheaper wink )
Fantastic looking and matching tyres - trust me cool

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/p_20170430_16071359074036a2.jpg

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/p_20170430_1607195907405217.jpg

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#83 2017-05-01 7:06am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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By the way:
Those are my two 26" beauties (out of 2012 and 2017) big_smile

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/p_20170430_174244590740be8b.jpg

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/p_20170430_174253590740db25.jpg


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#84 2017-06-29 12:17am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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Someone able to give some informations about the rear brake cable support near the bottom bracket shell?
Because I'm pretty sure to see a revolving groove covered with varnish:

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/socket5954a94ec4.jpg

For me it seems, that this support is based on a welded/soldered socket, having a screwed in "slotted screw".

In other words: Has someone already tried to unfasten those slotted screw (don't want to damage the varnish because of an unfounded assumption)?

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#85 2017-07-04 6:08am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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Obviously GT wants to catch us in 2018 with more colors: Chrome and Lavender big_smile

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/gt-2018-performer-26-lav-2t595b92950c.jpg

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/gt-2018-performer-26-chr-2t595b93444f.jpg

http://www.acebmx.com/gt-bmx-c-3_80/gt- … -7260.html

As you can see:
Now the decals say "Pro" Performer!
Also it comes stock with a chromed seat tube and a two-tone-chain.
Seems, that a Mallet-style stem will be mounted (front clamping with standing clamping plate).
Let me say: GT has learned from our customizing/arguments lol

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#86 2017-07-05 4:39am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

Anyone know of a Haro Master 26" chrome for sale? Appreciate the help ahead of time guys.

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#87 2017-07-11 6:09am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

REALBMXBANDIT wrote:

Anyone know of a Haro Master 26" chrome for sale? Appreciate the help ahead of time guys.

No, sorry hmm


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#88 2017-07-11 6:09am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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Short update:
Mounted 26" Mags this weekend...and my Freestyler-heart makes an additional jump smile

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/215386/p_20170709_2020395964cdc01c.jpg


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#89 2017-07-11 7:52am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

That looks great! Where did you find those, and do they also make them in white?

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#90 2017-07-12 5:33pm

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

Freestyle76 wrote:

That looks great! Where did you find those, and do they also make them in white?

This. Is it possible to put the 24" Skyway mags on these?

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#91 2017-07-12 7:41pm

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

mikey408 wrote:

Is it possible to put the 24" Skyway mags on these?

Yes it's possible, but it would look really odd, the bottom bracket would be real low, the brakes wouldn't reach, and the steering geometry would be changed due to the front axle being closer to the ground.

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#92 2017-07-13 4:46am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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mikey408 wrote:

Is it possible to put the 24" Skyway mags on these?

Yes it's possible, but it would look really odd, the bottom bracket would be real low, the brakes wouldn't reach, and the steering geometry would be changed due to the front axle being closer to the ground.

As blue78 says:
Possible, but there is too much room between the tires and the front/rear fork (+1" or 2,54 cm) hmm
Maybe you'ld have to take shorter crank arms to avoid a collision with the ground in curves lol
But the biggest problem are the breaks, that cannot hit the rim flange anymore roll


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#93 2017-07-13 5:31am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

Freestyle76 wrote:

That looks great! Where did you find those, and do they also make them in white?

Thanks smile

Yes, I've searched for a long time to find 26" wheels looking like a crossing between the OGK Performer mags and Skyway Tuffs wink
Those ones here are casted aluminum wheels out of the 90's.
They were designed for Mountainbikes by an italian firm called Grimeca.
Let me say: heavier than the spoked wheels - but way cooler big_smile

You must have luck, to find a pair.
They were made in different colors, like black, red, yellow and also white, for example.
I also have a blue pair here as spare parts.
Those wheels have sealed industrial bearings, easy to swap.
Mostly the front wheel have a 9mm axle, wherein the rear wheel have a 10mm axle.
Because of the hub diameter it is not possible to find standard sealed bearings taking 14mm axles.
But you can mount sealed bearings to take 10mm axles at the rear and the front wink


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#94 2017-07-22 7:52pm

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

Finally finished off my 26" Performer, pretty much only the frame, forks and cranks were kept from the original bike. 26" Ukai Speedlines to Superlace hubs.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bhzSFsXQtu4/WXQOLDSxv-I/AAAAAAAAEqY/-e4Pc0pW-aka7EpDyvNFeDPC9viifq1WACHMYCw/s640/blogger-image-1727068598.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KkHmngTckbQ/WXQON6kZwNI/AAAAAAAAEqc/CvAg0IeCt-w8NiNAC-A8KF1K3RrzsnFmQCHMYCw/s640/blogger-image--2142344479.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-59rm4uj3kqo/WXQOIJkimXI/AAAAAAAAEqU/VcFN4vprux4tx7wyVVjCOxZM7-vmRkhWQCHMYCw/s640/blogger-image-950609775.jpg

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#95 2017-07-23 1:43am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

Few things. The "baby" colours Quadangle is actually duck egg. It was big in the 50s. The duck egg and white back is supposed to be a throw back to the 50s, but I'm not sold on it either. I got a white one instead.

Secondly, yes, in the UK we have our rear brakes on the left and front brake on the right. It's always been that way. Surprised none of you guys have noticed it before on my bikes.

Thirdly the GT. I quite like it (never been a fan of GT really though) but why did they put a decal over the welds? that looks awful.

Love that orange one.

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#96 2017-07-23 4:54am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

tfi_friday wrote:

Finally finished off my 26" Performer, pretty much only the frame, forks and cranks were kept from the original bike. 26" Ukai Speedlines to Superlace hubs.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bhzS … 068598.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KkHm … 344479.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-59rm … 609775.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FteR … 225978.jpg

Nicely done !! cool

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#97 2017-07-29 11:29am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

tfi_friday wrote:

Finally finished off my 26" Performer, pretty much only the frame, forks and cranks were kept from the original bike. 26" Ukai Speedlines to Superlace hubs.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bhzS … 068598.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KkHm … 344479.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-59rm … 609775.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FteR … 225978.jpg

Awesome build cool
Not sure about the handlebar; for me the gentle curved Performer bar seems to match the curved form of the frame a little bit more - but just my two cents tongue
What was your solution to mount the Gyro-system? Have you drilled the head tube for screwed sockets?


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#98 2017-07-29 11:32am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

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Ending summer holiday today I've recognized that GT will also bring out a 29" Performer yikes

Take a look at the "old" decals!!!

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1109/6048/products/38919_1024x1024.jpg?v=1499986226
Source: https://www.citygrounds.com/products/gt … -bike-2018


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#99 2017-07-29 11:43am

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

AlurencatBMX wrote:

Secondly, yes, in the UK we have our rear brakes on the left and front brake on the right. It's always been that way. Surprised none of you guys have noticed it before on my bikes.

In fact I've never seen this "normal" difference before tongue

AlurencatBMX wrote:

Thirdly the GT. I quite like it (never been a fan of GT really though) but why did they put a decal over the welds? that looks awful.

I agree.
There're lots of different solutions out there to fix the decals, particularly the "GT" on the down tube near to the head tube.
They've placed some above the welds, some sloping over the welds, some with the GT horizontal and others tilted like mine hmm


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#100 2017-07-31 8:01pm

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Re: 26" GT Performer (2017) - quality discussion

oldschool_bmx_freestyler wrote:

tfi_friday wrote:

Finally finished off my 26" Performer, pretty much only the frame, forks and cranks were kept from the original bike. 26" Ukai Speedlines to Superlace hubs.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bhzS … 068598.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KkHm … 344479.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-59rm … 609775.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FteR … 225978.jpg

Awesome build cool
Not sure about the handlebar; for me the gentle curved Performer bar seems to match the curved form of the frame a little bit more - but just my two cents tongue
What was your solution to mount the Gyro-system? Have you drilled the head tube for screwed sockets?

Got the original bars done in the same finish too, so have the option to use them instead as I get the urge.

I had the frame drilled and threaded to take gyro tabs before I had it powder coated.

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