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#1 2015-04-30 7:05pm

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GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

I’ve said this before – RL Osborn was and IS my childhood hero!

Just below is one of my first posts on this site. The thread is entitled “RL Osborn … ?” My post is #81 – only this time I’m adding some pics, ‘cause you know, “pics or it didn’t happen”!

So… let’s go back to the beginning.

This from June 8, 2012, 9:38pm:
Saw this thread a while back, but just never posted my thoughts. I've had an extremely tough week ((NOTE: The tough week was due to the fact that I was laid off two days earlier from a job I had excelled at for more than 13 years!)) and all I keep thinking is I wish I had my Osborn Pro (white one) from BITD to help me get through it with riding.

Me on my General Osborn Pro, Circa 1990 – that’s a crossed up bunny hop off those bridge stairs behind me.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/CARL_AUSTIN_PAPER_zpsmbqfdq9v.jpg

RL Osborn was my childhood hero!

I grew up in a small Texas town south of San Antonio. My first issue of BMX Action was the October 1982 issue and from January 1983 I had them all until Freestlyin' and BMXA merged into GO, the Riders Manual. But it's the early issues from the 80s that I remember the most - that were the most impressionable on me.

Who doesn't recall the issue with RL and Mike Buff riding the vertically positioned bikes? Did you take the time to notice the small front sprockets? Years ahead of their time. Did you wonder if they had freewheel or some type of back wheel that would allow them to ride similar to a unicycle? How did they get started? Ladders? How cool was it that RL ran a Skyway mag on the front so he could hold the front wheel without separating his fingers through spokes. ((NOTE: I was corrected on this ‘cause RL ran skyways. The difference was the back, spoked wheel, not the front mag.)) Buff on the PK Ripper and RL on a Murray. They looked cool! It was cool and I wanted in!

http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/RL_BUFF_BMXA_CVR_zps1fsvg4lv.jpg

I spent hours on that cover alone. Tell me you didn't do the same if you saw it! At the time it was truly amazing.

Later that year I was at Windsor Mall on the east side of San Antonio - this building still exists BTW. I noticed a kid sitting with Haro pants and a racing jersey holding up a sign that said the BMXA Trick Team would be performing at this location in one week. I could not believe it. I was going to get to see, possibly met RL in person. It was June of 1983, almost three decades ago, that I saw RL Osborn for the first time and it was amazing!

Pat Romano, Mike Buff and RL put on one hell of a show with the Duke announcing. I'm in a photo that appears in the December '83 issue of BMXA, page 54 that was taken at this very show! RL is skying off the quarter pipe as I looked on in amazement from the stairs that are just behind the ramp, I'm left of him in the photo. I day I'll never forget and an issue I still have.

The Mightly BMX Action, December 1983 Cover:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/BMXA_Team_Tour_CVR_zpskur6upmc.jpg

Windsor Mall, San Antonio TX, Summer 1983
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/BMXA_Show_Spread_zpsogyq437u.jpg

He later signed, as did Buff, Romano and the Duke, my June issue of BMXA in which Freestlyers were featured.

June 1983 Issue Cover:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Pro_Freestylers_CVR_zpsgxklkoqe.jpg

Not only were they featured, but they were defined as being the ones bringing a new sport to the forefront.

Previously to participate in BMX you needed a track to race at. With Freestyle, you could simply ride in your driveway or the street, with friends or without, and the joy was pulling a new trick and showing off the ones you already knew to friends.

In the photos of this feature, the pros (Haro, Wilton, Fiola, Morales, Osborn, Buff and Romano) were dressed very sharply. Their bikes were pristine. They portrayed professionalism and success and I wanted in!

Top Pro Freestylers:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Fashion_1_Spread_zps4jo5kcqa.jpg

Pat Romano and Mike Buff Signatures:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/BMXA_Team_Sigs_zpsvwf0ztcs.jpg

Close-Up of Mike Buff’s Sig (This is here for Museum Member kmpap. I too hated the day I learned Mike was no longer a member of the BMXA Trick Team, but unlike you, I didn’t miss a day of school. I was bummed though.)
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Buff_First_Sig_CU_zpsl5iaogmv.jpg

RL Osborn’s Signature!!!:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/RL_First_Sig_zpsuibrw6ow.jpg

Close up:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/RL_First_Sig_CU_zpsb2urrfy8.jpg

I learned curb endos, rock walks, eventually 360 bunnyhops. Tailwhips followed along with kick turns on a ramp my dad let me build. It was a great time and with each issue of BMXA there was something new to learn. The more I saw in the magazines, the more I wanted to be like them, like RL!!

Me on the first “real” bike I ever owned, my HUTCH Windstyler, Summer ‘83:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Bar_Stand_zps2lcqznfp.jpg

Two years later, I got to ride with RL, when the Squiddley Squadron returned to San Antonio on tour. This time it was Fred Blood and Ron Wilton as team members alongside RL. They hosted a trick learning session prior to the show. All participants went out and tried to impress RL by pulling their best trick. After seeing what you could do, RL either pointed at Fred Blood for the beginners or himself for the intermediates to advanced riders. I pulled a tailwhip and RL pointed to himself. Yes, I get to ride with RL!!!! And let me say he was one of the nicest professional athletes I've ever met, and I've met a bunch of today's famous professional athletes.

Gina Carano (MMA Fighter turned Movie Star):
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/CARANO_zpscca9qbux.jpg

DeMarcus Ware (Former Dallas Cowboy, now WORLD CHAMPION Denver Bronco):
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/WARE_zpskcwh6mvy.jpg

Tony Hawk:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/HAWK_zpsnse0epqf.jpg

Kobe Bryant:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/KOBE_zpsio9w68bb.jpg

((NOTE: My interactions with all four of these people were fantastic!! The point being that RL IS on par with them and I would give almost anything to have a picture with him!!))

Later, the show was flawless and RL even pulled an Airwalk, the trick of the day back then, after I held up my May 1985 issue of Freestylin' magazine, page 56, that showed RL pulling a wicked no-footer on an RL20II, and started yelling, "Airwalk! Airwalk!" He did it on his third approach to the quarterpipe and it was unbelievable by the standards of the day! Later he signed that picture for me and I still have that magazine as well.

FREESTYLIN’ Cover, May 1985:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Freestylin_Cover_zpsygzootqh.jpg

RL Walkin’ on Air!!!
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/RL_Airwalk_zpskgb9dmsu.jpg

Notice this fashion spread from the same issue – Style Matters!!!:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Fashion_2_Spread_zpsd5duqvws.jpg

Next came the movie Rad, that's RL in the funky cover image, then General (the Osborn Pro was the greatest bike ever, yes mine was white!), then Bully and Hammer and then the sport had been steered in such a different direction that it just sort of faded away.

BTW, RL had every right to be upset with a rider spray bombing his bike and refusing to wear clothes that his sponsor wanted him to wear. None of that would fly in any other professional sport. The new generation of pros lacked professionalism. People no longer wanted in.

There are many additional reasons the sport faded, most of which have been mentioned already in this thread so I won't rehash them or look to debate anyone. I lived through it and was a part of it. I even traded in my unicorn (the white Osborn Pro) for a mountain bike. My girlfriend at the time, now wife, said we would go riding together. First trip out she took a bad fall and has not ridden since.

Today, tonight, right now, I want an Osborn Pro. I want to perform freestyle tricks again.

I would love to see RL again. See him return to the sport he fostered, but he does not owe me this nor does he owe me a reason as to why he doesn't return.

Quite the opposite... I owe him... for the sport and for the memories.

RL was and is my childhood hero, he's a living legend!

It was a great ride and as I sit here typing this I realize, "I want in!"

((NOTE: So I did something about it!))

This arrived June 16, 2012:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B01_Arrival_01_zpsogfawmuv.jpg

And it contained an Osborn Pro!!!:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B01_Arrival_02_zpsfvzjt3zj.jpg

And the restoration began.

More to come…

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#2 2015-05-01 6:59am

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

When the bike arrived, my immediate reaction was like being reunited with a long lost friend.

A 20 year reunion, and it was awesome.

Trouble was, the bike was showing its age.

There was rust, evidence of spray bombing, faded decals, nicks in the frame and scratches in the paint. I knew the condition of the bike going in, but it was a little disappointing after my initial excitement wore off to see it in person.

I’ve always been a collector and having spent several months drooling over some of the perfect rides in the museum, I decided I wanted to restore this bike, to make it look like it just arrived at a bike store to be displayed for purchase. Better yet, I would build the dream version of the white Osborn Pro I had once owned. It didn't matter if it was going to be a carpet queen or a rider, I just wanted a fresh start. If the bike had a scratch or a ding, I wanted it to be because I put it there!!

That decision (Rider or Carpet Queen) is still NOT finalized BTW - at least for one of the bikes!!

I know I’m going to wish I had taken more pictures along the way, but I wanted to let people know that I made a lot of mistakes during this restoration, and I might be able to save some members some money, and time by sharing the hard lessons I’ve learned.

Now back to it. Step One was to eliminate the rust.


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#3 2015-05-01 7:20am

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I'm in.... cool


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#4 2015-05-01 8:29am

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Yep - and me smile


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#5 2015-05-01 7:12pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

Getting rid of the rust.

I read through a bunch of threads on getting rid of rust. There’s the aluminum foil and Coca-Cola trick, Oxalic Acid and Citric Acid Powder. It seemed like most on here suggested an OA Bath. There was even one guy that soaked his bike in his wife’s tub – could not believe what I was seeing, but he did it and swore that the tube was fine. So I purchased the Oxalic Acid (you can get it on Amazon, or I've since learned it's the basic ingredient in wood fence cleaner found at most hardware stores) grabbed a tub (not the one in our Master Suite) that would almost hold the bike and started the process.

Frame, Fork and Stem Cap all bathing:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B1_OA_02_zpsrcjjlaqy.jpg

As described, the rust began to show a yellow build up on it. Notice the threads on the forks – that’s the yellow residue. I used an old toothbrush to brush that and the rust away. It was working great and the results looked promising. I wasn't expecting a show quality finish from this, but I did want all the rust gone.

This soak lasted about 48 hours or more, cause I had to flip the bike since I couldn’t submerge the entire thing.

Then I treated the parts:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B1_OA_01_zpsurbl5oft.jpg

These parts have just been put in. You’ll notice how clear the bath water is. Once you start brushing away the yellow residue and rust, the water will get cloudy. It will settle back down after some time though.

While I’m showing pics of OA Baths, I have since tried the Citric Acid Powder Baths and MUCH prefer this to OA. CAP Baths work great, you can buy the powder at a grocery store and there’s no worry about pets or kids getting into it. You can eat the powder!!! It totally kills the rust too. I usually use warm water and mix the powder in then place the parts in while the water is still warm. If you have little cuts on your fingers, the CAP will burn like Lime or Lemon juice in a cut. Let’s you know you’ve mixed a good batch.

Once you finish with an OA or CAP Bath, immediately dry your parts as much as you can with a soft towel. After that spray WD-40 all over them. I mean just cover the parts with it. The “WD” stands for “Water Displacement”, so it’ll essentially push the water away and coat the parts with oil. Then you can let them sit and dry, then wipe off the oil. I’ll even shoot WD-40 into the tiny holes on the bottom of frames and forks ‘til the foam is running out the other sides. Then I rub the parts with my hands. It’s messy but the results will be awesome - no more rust.

Do NOT ever spray recently OA or CAP Bathed parts with Windex or any type of glass cleaner. It will bring all the rust right back and you’ll have to soak the parts again. Yes I learned this the hard way!!

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#6 2015-05-01 8:10pm

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Awesome story/history and especially pics. it definitely happened ! cool Im sure i will be back to read the story over again too. Subscribed


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#7 2015-05-02 4:28am

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Hey Carl, after reading your story, I am very glad that I had the ACS RL EDGE Tire to help you build your dream bike!  What a story.


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#8 2015-05-09 12:47pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

I knew I wanted to rebuild the ultimate version of my white Osborn Pro, so now that the rust had been removed and the chrome cleaned up, I decided paint removal was the next logical step. I had found the repop stickers from AJK, ordered a set for the white version and set off removing the gray.

I’ve always had great success with Kleen Strip Stripper, so that’s what I used here. This stuff comes in a gold colored aerosol can and will remove any type of paint. Spray bomb, powder coating (just takes a little longer), you name it, spray it with this stuff and it’s gonna start to peel. It will destroy stickers, but doesn’t hurt chrome.

Paint peeling from the Kleen Strip:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B1_PR_01_zps1w7zmrk7.jpg

In the above photo, you can see the original gray paint all peeled. There are lines through the peeled paint where I’ve taken a plastic paint scraper (plastic to not damage the chrome) and pushed the paint off.

This is a very messy process and you do not want to get the Stripper on you!! At least not this stripper! LOL!! Seriously, this stuff burns, and quickly too.  Keep soap and water handy and by all means keep it away from your face and eyes!!!

In the meantime, I also began buying NOS parts for the build. I have no idea what type of bars I had BITD, but came across these NOS Peregrine Pro II Bars, thought they looked awesome, and since the bike had other Peregrine parts, I grabbed them. They felt like a good fit. And yes, by now I’ve seen lots of General Osborn Pros with these bars on them.

The NOS Peregrine Pro II’s:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/NP_05_zpsuzdfvyby.jpg

The General Bars you’ve seen in the OA Bath photo from an earlier post have been sold in case anyone was wondering. Kinda regret it, but I never ran those bars on my original OP and since I had already bought the Peregrines, I decided to reimburse myself some money by selling the General bars.

Anyone know what type of bars these are?? They say “REACTOR” on both sides. Haro maybe?? I’ve never looked them up. Let me know if you know.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Ruekel_Ditch_CanCan_zps6xopb2v5.jpg

BTW, this is “Reukel Ditch” in New Braunfels, TX. We would start high up on the slant of that overpass – way up in the shadow of the bridge. Coast down, hit a small flat area, drop in on a slope of the ditch and hit the most gorgeous concrete launch!! It was as if the people building the ditch said, “you know what would be awesome…”

You can see where the locals added a bit of a lip. All the rocks are there because it’s right next to railroad tracks. Plywood was put down to keep us all from blowing out our tires on jagged edges of the rocks. Hours were spent here catchin’ massive air!

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#9 2015-05-09 1:14pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

Totally forgot to put in a shot of the AJK Reproduction General Osborn Pro Stickers, so here they are:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/NP_03_zpsztnnvdya.jpg

These are very nice stickers. Lots of stickers to choose from!!! Website: http://www.ajkbikes.com

Discovered the ones on Ultra-Hive after this. The UH set actually includes one more General sticker and one more “ALL CHROMOLY” sticker, but does not appear to include the Peregrine Seatpost Clamp sticker or the Peregrine Crank Arm stickers.  I needed the extra Peregrine ones so I went with AJK.

I have since bought several stickers from Ultra-hive and have been quite happy with those as well, but we’ll get to those much later.

Up next… Decisions, Decisions.

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#10 2015-05-09 10:55pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

Diamond Back Reactor Race Bars.


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#11 2015-05-10 8:37am

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socaldude wrote:

Diamond Back Reactor Race Bars.

Thanks for the info!! Never knew what those were, but they came on the bike from the bike store. I just added the Swatch watch on them and that was it.

Great bike right from the store!!!!


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#12 2015-05-10 8:39am

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So this happens next…

I felt the frame was good, no more rust, clean looking chrome with no flaking, but there were a few dings on the bottom of the down tube. I decided I could live with them and starting getting pricing from a local Powder Coaters to redo the white on the Frame, Crank Arms and Stem Cap. Pricing seemed fair enough, but thankfully I decided to “test” the guy’s quality with just the crank arms and the stem cap.

I had left the Pinch Bolts in the Crank Arms, not sure why, but I did. Well when I picked up the parts, there was just a thick layer of powder coating over everything!! It was so thick the Crank Arms wouldn’t even slide back on to the spindle. The pinch bolts had been left in and were covered and the
Stem Cap had just been coated as well. No refinishing on the raised bars or “ANLUN” on the top.

I was very disappointed, but since I had never had anything powder coated before, I thought maybe that was just the process. I wasn’t sure how I was going to get the Crank Arms back on the spindle, but I thought I could lightly sand off the coating on the raised portions of Stem Cap, so I set out to do that.

I had decided NOT to let that person touch my frame though!! The cranks arms had what looked like bubbling in them and I was just not happy with it.

I knew of Chip at C4 Labs from this site, I just hadn’t pulled the trigger and sent the frame and parts to him yet.

Now here’s my curve ball – a member messages me and says he wants to sell me his white Osborn Pro. In the photos the chrome looked clean, the stickers were fresh AND he was going to include some Gen 1 Peregrine Cranks at an unbelievable price!! I thought why spend money to get this one powder coated when you can get this really nice looking one that’s further along, sell the one you’ve been working on to recoup some cash and speed up the restoration.

So I bought the second Osborn Pro, held off on the powder coating of bike one for now, completely damaged the Stem Cap trying to sand the raised areas (that's why there's no photos of it yet) and gave up trying to get the freshly re-powdered Crank Arms to fit on the spindle.

I sprayed the Cranks Arms AND the Stem Cap with the Kleen Strip and decided to start over on those and waited for the second OP to arrive in the mail.

And I was NOT disappointed with it when it did:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B02_ARRIVAL_01_zpsmampwn62.jpg

The Frame/Fork, Gen 1 Peregrines (with new bolts) AND like-new General Pedals!! SWEET!!
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B02_ARRIVAL_02_zpsjzcagpba.jpg

But, things aren’t always what they seem.

Up Next… You’ve Got to be Kidding!!!

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#13 2015-05-10 8:45am

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#14 2015-05-10 2:33pm

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The spoked wheel and little sprocket are easily explained. He was using a track hub with fixy gear so that he could control it both forwards and backwards like a unicycle, and needed the small sprocket to get the low ratio for better balance control.


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#15 2015-05-11 8:53am

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Okay, there’s several reasons why I’ve said, “You’ve got to be kidding” while restoring these two bikes.

I’ve already shared the sad powder coating by the local guy, waste of money, which led to me trying to make those parts work, waste of time, and in the end, I was right where I started – except that now I had two of these bikes.

So building the ultimate version of the white one was moving forward, but what to do with the second? Sell it? Make it a rider or what? And then I came across Windy Osborn’s Photography website (windyosborn.com) and saw one of my all-time favorite images of RL Osborn (yes, they’re brother and sister for those who don’t know). He’s hangin’ five at speed and the photo is just awesome. I instantly knew what I wanted to do. I would make a tribute bike to the one in the photo, but an all-chrome version!

Here’s a look at RL wall riding on the bike I’m talking about:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/RL_WALLRIDING_zpskfchnxls.jpg

This is NOT the image I’m talking about from Windy’s website. That image is entitled, “RL Osborn Hang 5 1988”. Please visit her site and check out the fantastic photos. Windy is a true part of all things BMX and FREESTYLE – in fact she and her father captured most of what we, the public, saw of the two sports for the first three decades of its existence!!

So the first and most obvious part I knew I needed were some chrome Dyno bars. I was so eager to begin building this bike that here’s where I began to make more mistakes.

I bought some of the first chrome Dyno Bars I could find. These bars were in good shape, but rust was visible in the tight spots and there were some nicks in the chrome:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/DYNO_BARS_01_zpstbt3rrp6.jpg

Then when they arrived, some minor dings were noticed:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/DYNO_BARS_02_zpstkjtto7q.jpg

I thought I’d get those bars in hand, give them a bath, have them smoothed out then re-chromed, but while waiting to collect more parts, a freshly re-chromed set of bars appeared for sale FOR LESS than what it was going to cost me to send these bars to be chromed plus shipping!! You’ve got to be Kidding! These were perfect Dyno bars, so I bought them and still have the others for an eventual rider.

I did the same thing on the Anlun Flip Down Pegs for HAROs!! Notice in the photo that RL is running a set of these. Well after searching for months, a set came up for sale and I grabbed them. They were in pretty good shape, but they weren’t NOS.

The stickers were faded and beat up and there was a little rust in the tight spots:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Anlun_Pegs_01_zpspma7xt2j.jpg

AND there were dings and scratches from use on the bottom of the pegs:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Anlun_Pegs_02_zpsjt0kjhcl.jpg

I was going to have to smooth these out and re-chrome them. But again as I was collecting more parts before sending them to a chromer, a NOS set came up for sale! You’ve got to be Kidding! Who has these parts NOS?!?!?! Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad people do have them, but I just didn’t expect it!

The NOS ones looked sweet – so I had to buy them! I did sell the set that I was going to re-chrome to another member here, so I was able to recoup some funds. Still, I should have just held out for the NOS set. BTW, the NOS set make a perfect click sound when the pegs fold back up. It’s awesome to hear!!

The lesson here is, if you want or need NOS or mint parts, be patient and PayPal ready ‘cause they will turn up – often at great prices. Otherwise you’ll be saying, “You’ve got to be kidding” when the perfect version of the part you’re in search of turns up days after you buy an okay version.

So after learning my lesson the hard way, here’s a look at some more patient purchases, NOS items, that are going on the builds.

NOS ACS Pro Rotor:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/NP_06_zps3wj1vfca.jpg

NOS Peregrine Compact Disc:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/NP_01_zpsjjvagtes.jpg

And my latest acquisition just last week, referred to in Post #7, one NOS ACS RL Edge Tire, to complete my pair!!! Thank you pushittothemax!!!!:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/NOS_ACS_RL_RDGE_TIRES_zpss8hnwhul.jpg

Notice the white releasing agent still on these bad boys!! Unbelievable! They are gonna look so killer on the wheels for this build.

So, there’s a lot going on, NOS parts are coming in, but there’s still more, “You’ve got to be Kidding!!!” to come.

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#16 2015-05-11 9:51am

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

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#17 2015-05-11 10:21am

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

BMX_DNA wrote:

I knew I wanted to rebuild the ultimate version of my white Osborn Pro, so now that the rust had been removed and the chrome cleaned up, I decided paint removal was the next logical step. I had found the repop stickers from AJK, ordered a set for the white version and set off removing the gray.

I’ve always had great success with Kleen Strip Stripper, so that’s what I used here. This stuff comes in a gold colored aerosol can and will remove any type of paint. Spray bomb, powder coating (just takes a little longer), you name it, spray it with this stuff and it’s gonna start to peel. It will destroy stickers, but doesn’t hurt chrome.

Paint peeling from the Kleen Strip:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u36 … 7zmrk7.jpg

In the above photo, you can see the original gray paint all peeled. There are lines through the peeled paint where I’ve taken a plastic paint scraper (plastic to not damage the chrome) and pushed the paint off.

This is a very messy process and you do not want to get the Stripper on you!! At least not this stripper! LOL!! Seriously, this stuff burns, and quickly too.  Keep soap and water handy and by all means keep it away from your face and eyes!!!

In the meantime, I also began buying NOS parts for the build. I have no idea what type of bars I had BITD, but came across these NOS Peregrine Pro II Bars, thought they looked awesome, and since the bike had other Peregrine parts, I grabbed them. They felt like a good fit. And yes, by now I’ve seen lots of General Osborn Pros with these bars on them.

The NOS Peregrine Pro II’s:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u36 … dfvyby.jpg

The General Bars you’ve seen in the OA Bath photo from an earlier post have been sold in case anyone was wondering. Kinda regret it, but I never ran those bars on my original OP and since I had already bought the Peregrines, I decided to reimburse myself some money by selling the General bars.

Anyone know what type of bars these are?? They say “REACTOR” on both sides. Haro maybe?? I’ve never looked them up. Let me know if you know.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Ruekel_Ditch_CanCan_zps6xopb2v5.jpg

BTW, this is “Reukel Ditch” in New Braunsfels, TX. We would start high up on the slant of that overpass – way up in the shadow of the bridge. Coast down, hit a small flat area, drop in on a slope of the ditch and hit the most gorgeous concrete launch!! It was as if the people building the ditch said, “you know what would be awesome…”

You can see where the locals added a bit of a lip. All the rocks are there because it’s right next to railroad tracks. Plywood was put down to keep us all from blowing out our tires on jagged edges of the rocks. Hours were spent here catchin’ massive air!

there Diamond Back bars

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#18 2015-05-11 11:42am

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

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#19 2015-05-13 12:05pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

At this point I had collected a few more parts, some of which were NOT NOS and were going to be refinished – we’ve covered this, but yes, I still had some purchases that were not perfect, nice but not perfect, and I thought they could be chromed to look new again. For the most part I was correct.

Not many chromers in Texas, so most of my research to find one was done on this site. Besides, I wanted someone that knew about BMX parts, how rare these parts are and that would treat them as such. I selected a few and weeded them down to one with phone calls and pricing.

Here’s a look at the parts being sent. Notice the ACS Slant 55 Stem – all complete WITH bolts in it (Top Center of Photo):
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Parts_to_Chromer_zpsjt3ctoeb.jpg

The parts were received at the shop. A few days later I get a phone call and some text messages about the Peregrine Cranks Arms. Once the white was removed, the surface of the arms were a bit rough, but look at this, the spline grooves on one of the arms were almost non-existent (Left One)!!  This is why I said in an earlier post, “things aren’t always what they seem.”
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/Bad_Crank_Arm_zps99bkozdn.jpg

What do you do with this?!?!?!?! These arms looked perfect when they arrived. You’ve got to be Kidding!!!

The chromer said he’d just send those back as they were, and not chrome them ‘cause he thought the one arm was useless. So I started a thread here asking for help, but got a bunch of people telling me that Peregrine Cranks suck and how they used to break them BITD and that I should just weld it to make it a two piece crank. Yeah thanks, but no thanks. Didn’t ask what you thought about Peregrine Cranks, just wanted thoughts on how these could be saved. I’m trying to restore these bikes to as close to perfection as I can get them. No cutting corners – so the search for a replacement arm began.

In the meantime, the other parts were done, I paid for them and they were shipped and arrived quickly… and they were just perfect!!!! Liquid metal perfection!!!

But wait… these bolts are too small to fit the threads on the ACS Slant Stem. Where are the bolts that I sent with the stem? Did the plating process gouge the threads out? No, that would have just smoothed the whole inside out. What’s wrong with this stem?

Called the chromer back. Hey everything looks great, but what’s the deal with the bolts on the stem? Not sure, let me send you a new set of bolts. Cool. That should work. Bolts arrive, way too small. WTF?!?!? Come On!! What the hell happened to my stem?

Go to a hardware store and discover the threads have been re-threaded to three-eighths inch, no longer M8. Whispers on aisle eight at Home Depot, “you’ve got to be kidding.”

I don’t think the chromer did this, but who did? Is this even the same stem I sent? Who would do this? Where are the bolts that worked?!?!?!

Purchased four bolts that would thread into the base, but didn’t have the stem cap with me. Get home, bolts are too big for the stem cap. Damn!!

Drill out the smaller portion of the stem cap – totally jack up the fresh chrome. Seriously!!

Still have issue with bolt heads being too large to counter sink into the stem cap! I give up.

End result, World’s most expensive and still completely useless ACS Slant 55 Stem:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/ACS_Slant_55_Ruined_zpsmuxrpl82.jpg

Notice the big peel on the chrome that’s in line with the bolt on the stem cap. The base is still perfect. Totally ruined the chrome making the holes larger for the bolts, only to find that the heads still won’t counter-sink. Gonna have to grind the bolts down or something, but this stem will NOT be going on the build.

Might keep it for a rider. If you have any interest in it, let me know via PM. I have a NOS ACS Potts Mod bolt for it and Repop sticker from Ultra-hive.

Writing this post brought back so much frustration, but I hope someone out there is at least enjoying it!!!

There’s much more to come.

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#20 2015-05-13 12:49pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

dang this is a good thread!  big_smile


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#21 2015-05-13 1:59pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

This is awesome! I used to have a black set of Peregrine Pro II's, they ended up hanging in my mom's basement forever and now they're gone. sad

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#22 2015-05-14 5:56am

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

Bummer on that stem dude, but the chrome looks great. Who did you have do it.


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#23 2015-05-14 7:04am

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

toberad wrote:

Bummer on that stem dude, but the chrome looks great. Who did you have do it.

Yeah a very expensive bummer on that stem.

Not sure I want to say who the chromer was.

While the chrome work is excellent, I can't recommend this place due to the issues with the stem.

Clearly it was a fully functional stem when I sent it, but that is NOT what I received back.

Not looking to trash anyone with this thread, but I will be making recommendations for bike restoration work in future posts - and showing more photos to back up the recommendations.

Thanks for reading!


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#24 2015-05-14 2:08pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

So let’s take a look at where we are…

GEN OP 1, The All-Chrome RL Osborn Tribute Bike:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B1_PLANS_zps1koct1jp.jpg

This photo shows the stripped down frame (that was once gray) with the Dyno Bars (that have the nicks and tiny rust spots), a chrome set of Repop Stickers from AJK (SWEET SET!!), the Peregrine Cranks Arms that came with Bike Two (but as we now know are crap – at least the non-drive arm is), Oh and let us not overlook the ACS Slant 55 Stem (NOTICE THAT IT IS COMPLETE) that since this picture, has gone to a chromer and come back looking beautiful, but completely useless ‘cause of the whole bolt situation (see full story above), a perfect Peregrine Seatpost Clamp, and the Anlun flip out Fork Pegs (the first set I bought that were going to be refinished but have since been sold ‘cause I found a NOS set) and some General Fork Pegs that are in okay condition that came with this frame/fork.

GEN OP 2, The Dream Version of my Osborn Pro from BITD:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/B2_PLANS_zpsiuwdswha.jpg

Again we see the frame and fork as it arrived. Previous owner refinished it and put Repop stickers on it. The downtube sticker had a large wrinkle, but I wasn’t worried as I had already purchased a white set so I could easily replace it. The Peregrine Crank Arms seen here are the ones that came with Bike One. These had been repowdered by the local guy and I had not yet ruined the stem cap (see story above) or decided to start over with these arms. NOS Peregrine Bars (RAD!!) Mint pedals that came on Generals BITD (Crazy Cool) and another decent set of General Fork Pegs.

So there were issues yet to come and damage that I had yet to discover when I took these photos. I think many on this site would have said start assembling and ride those things, but I wanted perfection! No flaws. And I still hadn’t decided if I would ride these yet.

Just so you know, I STILL haven’t decided that!

In the meantime, I had more NOS parts coming in from members here and was slowly amassing everything I would need to complete these rides.

Handler Seat:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/NP_02_zpsr553fek9.jpg

Dia-Compe Tech 77 Levers AND NOS GENERAL FORK PEGS!!!!:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/cbraun7/NP_04_zpsausx52n7.jpg

But, as I’ve said earlier, not everything is as it seems. There’s more to come on those NOS Fork Pegs and let’s not forget the search is ongoing for a replacement Peregrine Crank Arm. Do people even sell those as orphans? What would be my luck finding one?

So, there’s much more to come!

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#25 2015-05-14 3:33pm

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Re: GEN OPs – Restoring Two General Osborn Pros

I'm Generally loving this thread wink

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