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*** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

#1 2015-03-05 12:26pm

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*** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Hiya Gents 

Got these lovelies recently and as you can see they needed a little tlc.

Im planned on removing the cages to reshape and re-anno and use countersunk allen machine screws to remount them.
Hopefully they would look a little like the KKT LMX's as in the second pic




http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1103_zpsbzilklbh.jpg


http://www.helixbmx.net/extra_pics/pedals/kkt_lmx_red_2.jpg


I know the "rivets" are actually part of the pedal body casting and are just mushroomed over to hold the cage on. The plan was to remove the mushroom but leave the nub to locate the cage on then just secure with an M3 allen machine screw.



I started by centre punching and drilling a 2.5mm hole through the middle of the rivets, deep enough to receive the M3 countersunk allen machine screws. Its important not to drill too deep as there is a chance the hole could come through the narrow section of the body


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/DSC_1130_zpsjfkhocgp.jpg


Next using a 4.5mm bit i drilled through the rivet head leaving a fine ring of the head remaining. The holes in the cages are 5mm 


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/DSC_1133_zpstlb7fgon.jpg


The rings were easily removed with a gentle tap with a flat screwdriver or something similar.


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/DSC_1132_zpseql6xhln.jpg


The cages were removed using a small piece of timber to pry and/or tap apart from the body. The nubs were filed flat with enough left on to relocate the cages once restored.

http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/DSC_1136_zpst97aczhu.jpg


Next job was to reshape, file and polish the cages ready for anno.

I managed to cut a few accurate oak formers and set about gently hammering the makings of the original shape.


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1162_zpsjqomhxgj.jpg


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1163_zpssd9k28in.jpg


offered up to check the hammering isnt stretching the cage.


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1164_zpsxu7zfnap.jpg


Nearly there with the cages i countersunk the rivet holes for the machine screws and restored as much of the teeth shape as was practicle without filing too much of the body away.


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1172_zpsnzat8jsn.jpg


The cages were send off for anno while i stripped, soft polished, cleaned and regreased the pedal bodies. I got the threads tapped and tried a screw for size. Offering up the egde of a cage it was evident the screws were going to sit proud of the cage so i had to countersing the body nubs.


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1181_zpserjdtnpb.jpg


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1182_zpsjuq3qzcb.jpg


Well pleased with the final result  smile


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1189_zpsuyipszx1.jpg



http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1186_zpsp9h32sqe.jpg



http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1185_zpslq3copnk.jpg




And a before and after shot  wink


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1103_zpsbzilklbh.jpghttp://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x455/oldschoolace/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_1184_zps7rorr28v.jpg


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#2 2015-03-05 12:45pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Outstanding job. I wish I had talent like this.


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#3 2015-03-05 1:50pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

cool Splendid work! Those came out great and the screws look way better than the rivets any day.


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#4 2015-03-05 2:18pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Awesome job!! Who did the anno?

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#5 2015-03-05 2:34pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Love what you did. Inspiring cool


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#6 2015-03-05 5:04pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Incredible job!! Totally pro!!!! coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool


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#7 2015-03-05 6:07pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

You did a really fantastic job.  I am interested in doing the same with a set of KKT's I have.   For me personally, I would have went M4 and not worried too much about using the nubs for locating.

Secondly, I'm open to making suggestions on forming cages.  Personally I would have made the fare end (open end) of the cage about 1/4-1/2" smaller than the cage width so you can bend the cage past the required point, so that when you relieve the pressure, it will snap back to about the right position (or even smaller on that end than the pedal.  Over time I found that I preferred cages to "grab" the body vs. being pulled down by the screws.  Also, you can form it without a hammer...that's where the fun begins.

Thanks for inspiring me, and letting me know that the rivets weren't really rivets....always been wondering where to get 'em.  lol


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#8 2015-03-05 8:17pm

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Awesome job! cool


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#9 2015-03-06 12:49am

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

I have done many many sets of kkts but prefer to make them look as close to og as possible, I also have done the countersunk socket heads to.
Real good job bud.
All these pedals have had the cages completely removed and refurbished.
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af272/Tackoz/Ozbmx/0309aa83bf7a0e24b377a987f9005a4f_zps9c8309dd.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af272/Tackoz/Ozbmx/847c07ba34f27f40fab44c13223d8451_zps39ad6c9d.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af272/Tackoz/Ozbmx/5a95f45688674f7f24d95eeebf98d232_zps4077c09e.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af272/Tackoz/Ozbmx/860aa453c07391d228885467fd2cfa2b_zpsb3311b73.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af272/Tackoz/Ozbmx/bdcaf4749208be70c47c27644651b663_zps36fd15a7.jpg

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#10 2015-03-06 1:54am

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Nice cool


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#11 2015-03-06 7:36am

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Amazing work and thanks for taking the time to document and share it with us.  Posts like these are what makes bmxmuseum.com so invaluable.  cool

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#12 2015-04-25 10:13pm

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Where did you send them off to get anoed.

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#13 2015-05-14 2:51am

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#14 2015-05-14 3:06am

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Question, so the rings were thin enough to sheer them away with the flat head, like using a plainer? how was this forgone with out touching the pedal cage.


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#15 2015-08-02 3:50am

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Sorry for the delay bud. The answer is very carefully. The rings needed very little pressure to remove and the flathead was worked around so all moments were towards the centre. Any mistake could have been tidied up whilst I was restoring the cages but it wasn't necessary smile


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#16 2015-12-10 1:53am

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Odd question but what length are the screws you used out of interest?

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#17 2016-06-05 9:22pm

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Great work! Now I regret selling a nice set I just shipped!!!


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#18 2016-06-05 9:30pm

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amazing work. killer thread! cool

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#19 2016-09-07 8:39am

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Tack wrote:

I have done many many sets of kkts but prefer to make them look as close to og as possible, I also have done the countersunk socket heads to.
Real good job bud.
All these pedals have had the cages completely removed and refurbished.
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af2 … 8309dd.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af2 … ad6c9d.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af2 … 77c09e.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af2 … 311b73.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af2 … fd15a7.jpg

Can you explain/show the re-rivetting process? How do you fix the cage back to the pedal?

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#20 2018-11-02 4:13pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Amazing

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#21 2018-11-02 4:36pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

BritUS wrote:

Can you explain/show the re-rivetting process? How do you fix the cage back to the pedal?

Still waiting to hear more info too.

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#22 2018-11-29 8:44pm

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

Awesome Job...I have several sets I need to do this with


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#23 2018-11-29 9:28pm

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I love the quality of work. I still want to see Troy's method for forming Suntour cages.


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#24 2019-11-26 4:44am

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Re: *** Restoring KKT Lightning pedals ***

I’m not seeing the pics. Can you give me some advice here? Thank you for the amazing post.

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#25 2019-11-26 4:52am

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message a mod they have keys for everything


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