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STREETBEATBEAST · 2015-02-20 6:15pm

Winters been brutal and so you start ...poking around, exploring BMX history to keep your mind nourished with BMX stuff. I just stumbled apon the story of the Jay Miron prototype this year. I'm mainly the SKYWAY guy here so, just didn't know. But I always look back at my fav riders and all things related to SKYWAY. Hense an interest in HARO/HOFFMAN/SCHWINN etc. I'm curious as hell...anyone know the where about of the PUNISHER prototype and if only one was made? Adam Dawson come on down!. Your the first contestant on "WHERE THE HELL IS THAT BIKE" lol.

adamdawson · 2015-02-21 2:42pm

whereabouts are unknown. i tried contacting jay a few years back about it but he never got back to me.

there was only the one frame. shane welded it up.
it was actually gonna be a trans purple just like the big daddy that day smith had in 95, but the painter couldnt get it right, color ended up being a mega bright purple, like 80s bright purple and jay REALLY didnt like it so they painted it black.

spyker · 2015-02-21 2:50pm

If I remember,I can ask Jay about it if we run into him again on our local museum rides.

STREETBEATBEAST · 2015-02-21 7:20pm

So, I read in one of the pic captions that the bike was a dark blue/black. Is that wrong?

adamdawson · 2015-02-21 7:59pm

frame is black

notapadawan · 2016-04-12 3:15pm

Anyone have pics of it?

OG'89 · 2016-04-12 4:15pm

OG'89 wrote:
Shiznitme wrote:
Keep it up Steph I think you're on your way to Hoffman therapy!

Some pics I came across in some old mags. Posting just because ;

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First few pics (not the green spokes) are the Punisher.

STREETBEATBEAST · 2016-04-12 6:23pm

spyker wrote:
If I remember,I can ask Jay about it if we run into him again on our local museum rides.

Hey did ya ever talk to Jay about the PUNISHER?

spyker · 2016-04-12 6:43pm

STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
spyker wrote:
If I remember,I can ask Jay about it if we run into him again on our local museum rides.
Hey did ya ever talk to Jay about the PUNISHER?

Not yet.But word has it that he might make a appearance at the local 3rd annual bmx show.I can ask him then.

STREETBEATBEAST · 2016-04-12 7:00pm

spyker wrote:
STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
spyker wrote:
If I remember,I can ask Jay about it if we run into him again on our local museum rides.
Hey did ya ever talk to Jay about the PUNISHER?
Not yet.But word has it that he might make a appearance at the local 3rd annual bmx show.I can ask him then.

Cool. Will u remember?

spyker · 2016-04-12 7:16pm

STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
spyker wrote:
STREETBEATBEAST wrote:

Hey did ya ever talk to Jay about the PUNISHER?
Not yet.But word has it that he might make a appearance at the local 3rd annual bmx show.I can ask him then.
Cool. Will u remember?

I most likely will unless I drink way too much or smoke above my limit of marijuana.

OG'89 · 2016-04-12 7:20pm

My guess..

A) if Jay still had / owned the bike when he left Hoffman, it was likely used to make the jigs for the Schwinn Torque Flyte. Which means it is either sitting in a tool-room in a Schwinn shop somewhere...

B) or if it was left at HB when Jay left the team, Mark Owen or Swope might know where it is...

C) or it's in Jay's garage...

STREETBEATBEAST · 2016-04-12 8:06pm

OG'89 wrote:
My guess..

A) if Jay still had / owned the bike when he left Hoffman, it was likely used to make the jigs for the Schwinn Torque Flyte. Which means it is either sitting in a tool-room in a Schwinn shop somewhere...

B) or if it was left at HB when Jay left the team, Mark Owen or Swope might know where it is...

C) or it's in Jay's garage...

Jay took it when he went to Schwinn. There's lots of pics showing him riding the bike with big down tube Schwinn decals on it.

STREETBEATBEAST · 2016-04-12 8:09pm

And yes, Schwinn copied parts of the PUNISHER frame design. The whole tapered rear top tube where it flattens out is all PUNISHER.

OG'89 · 2016-04-12 8:12pm

I know.

And do show me pics of the Punisher with Schwinn decals! Never seen them!

spyker · 2016-04-12 8:14pm

Imagine if Jay still has it!

notapadawan · 2016-04-12 8:16pm

Look up Jay miron on MTV cribs. It shows some of his bikes there. Maybe y'all will see it....lol. I watched on my phone so it's hard to see details

Hamell · 2016-04-12 8:59pm

STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
And yes, Schwinn copied parts of the PUNISHER frame design. The whole tapered rear top tube where it flattens out is all PUNISHER.

I wouldn't say that Schwinn copied anything. Miron took that top tube design from his Hoffman days all the through to his first MacNeil frame.

OG'89 · 2016-04-12 9:21pm

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=117195

Hmm. I guess I never realized that the first bike Jay rode for Schwinn (and got a lot of coverage with) was the HB proto, with big red Schwinn stickers.

Bottom of Page 1, adamdawson again with the HB goods and history!!

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STREETBEATBEAST · 2016-04-12 9:27pm

Hamell wrote:
STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
And yes, Schwinn copied parts of the PUNISHER frame design. The whole tapered rear top tube where it flattens out is all PUNISHER.
I wouldn't say that Schwinn copied anything. Miron took that top tube design from his Hoffman days all the through to his first MacNeil frame.

Sure..but it started with the PUN8SHER. Started when he was at HOFFMAN. If Jay designed it, he had the right. If he "took" it...that's a different story. Jay's one of my favourite riders of all time, but there seems to be more reasons he's called "THE BEAST" LOL. Stories exist of, shall we say, strange, occurrences ?lol.
Still think he's one of BMXS best ever.

spyker · 2016-04-12 9:37pm

STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
Sure..but it started with the PUN8SHER. Started when he was at HOFFMAN. If Jay designed it, he had the right. If he "took" it...that's a different story. Jay's one of my favourite riders of all time, but there seems to be more reasons he's called "THE BEAST" LOL. Stories exist of, shall we say, strange, occurrences ?lol.
Still think he's one of BMXS best ever.

From what I was told locally(and this might be just another one of my stories)that Jay's nickname was due to his quick short fused temper.Proof of that was when he got into a fight with team mate Dave Mirra when he was on Haro.

Since you're a big fan of Jay's,you can now purchase custom funiture he makes.

STREETBEATBEAST · 2016-04-12 9:40pm

spyker wrote:
STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
Sure..but it started with the PUN8SHER. Started when he was at HOFFMAN. If Jay designed it, he had the right. If he "took" it...that's a different story. Jay's one of my favourite riders of all time, but there seems to be more reasons he's called "THE BEAST" LOL. Stories exist of, shall we say, strange, occurrences ?lol.
Still think he's one of BMXS best ever.
From what I was told locally(and this might be just another one of my stories)that Jay's nickname was due to his quick short fused temper.Proof of that was when he got into a fight with team mate Dave Mirra when he was on Haro.

Since you're a big fan of Jay's,you can now purchase custom funiture he makes.

Really, that's cool. I appreciate all forms of craftsmanship. Is that true?

STREETBEATBEAST · 2016-04-12 9:42pm

spyker wrote:
STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
Sure..but it started with the PUN8SHER. Started when he was at HOFFMAN. If Jay designed it, he had the right. If he "took" it...that's a different story. Jay's one of my favourite riders of all time, but there seems to be more reasons he's called "THE BEAST" LOL. Stories exist of, shall we say, strange, occurrences ?lol.
Still think he's one of BMXS best ever.
From what I was told locally(and this might be just another one of my stories)that Jay's nickname was due to his quick short fused temper.Proof of that was when he got into a fight with team mate Dave Mirra when he was on Haro.

Since you're a big fan of Jay's,you can now purchase custom funiture he makes.

That is part of what I was refering to lol. We BEASTs roll like Dat lol

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spyker · 2016-04-12 9:48pm

STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
spyker wrote:
STREETBEATBEAST wrote:
Sure..but it started with the PUN8SHER. Started when he was at HOFFMAN. If Jay designed it, he had the right. If he "took" it...that's a different story. Jay's one of my favourite riders of all time, but there seems to be more reasons he's called "THE BEAST" LOL. Stories exist of, shall we say, strange, occurrences ?lol.
Still think he's one of BMXS best ever.
From what I was told locally(and this might be just another one of my stories)that Jay's nickname was due to his quick short fused temper.Proof of that was when he got into a fight with team mate Dave Mirra when he was on Haro.

Since you're a big fan of Jay's,you can now purchase custom funiture he makes.
Really, that's cool. I appreciate all forms of craftsmanship. Is that true?

True as in makes furniture now? Yes he does.His shop is located within a 10 minute drive from where I'm at.

spyker · 2016-04-12 9:53pm

I found some of the written contents to be pretty funny.

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