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#1 2014-08-31 8:32am

mxfan69
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Building new race bike

Looking at putting together a new school race bike from a 2015 SE Elite xxl frame. This phone will not let me search very easily for things like FORK comparisons.

I was looking at a lightly used Answer Dagger Fork. Was trying to see if y'all have had any fork discussions on Carbon forks and how the Dagger lies in that discussion.

Thanks, Barry


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#2 2014-08-31 10:57am

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Re: Building new race bike

I swore by steel for years, but I am now on Daggers.  I know Ryan Birk personally and they stand behind the product. I had to adjust becasue of the new feel they gave my bike (Standard 125r) but overall I have no qualms about my choice.


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#3 2014-08-31 2:24pm

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Re: Building new race bike

ANTDOG,  Do the Daggers feel stiffer or do you feel flex when riding?


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#4 2014-08-31 3:46pm

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Re: Building new race bike

I guess thats what i am afraid of with an aluminum frame and carbon fork is a weird feel.


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#5 2014-08-31 5:07pm

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Re: Building new race bike

If you ride chromoly and switch to the al/cf setup the difference is night and day. Just a cf fork is very different. My full chromoly bikes a more forgiving to my old bones, but the al/cf is clearly faster for me.

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#6 2014-08-31 5:09pm

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Re: Building new race bike

Why is the cf better? What is the difference? Stiffness, feel.


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#7 2014-08-31 6:32pm

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Re: Building new race bike

stiffness, and if it holds true as to road  CF absorbs more of the vibration than aluminum


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#8 2014-08-31 6:39pm

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A little stiffer but the main difference for me is the weight. Nothing wrong with my regular forks I just wanted to a different feel and I like it


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#9 2014-09-01 7:07am

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Re: Building new race bike

I had Daggers on my Floval Flyer.  After riding them for a few months I put the orig Landing Gears back on - it felt like someone had tied a bunch of bricks to the front of my bike.  I only did half a lap and went home....

Daggers are 22oz
Box 21oz
Supercross 20oz
Bombshell 23oz
Ciari 19oz

chromoly Ciari are 24oz. Elvn 7.0 and 8.0 are 28 and 29oz for half the price of the carbon forks.

Make sure you post some pics of your finished bike, the 15' Ripper looks awsome

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#10 2014-09-01 2:06pm

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Re: Building new race bike

Was thinking of putting box or answers on my s&m speedwagon. Is it better to keep the steel fork with the steel frame? Or are carbon a good upgrade?


WANTED HAWK FRAMES or completes

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#11 2014-09-01 2:29pm

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It boils down to what you like and  want. I prefer daggers. some like box. some like steel. If you havea buddy that will let you try a set, that will help before you put down the cash, that is how I came to my decision.


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#12 2014-09-01 2:35pm

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Re: Building new race bike

I never really paid attention to weight and the feel of my bikes until I got serious about my racing and my bike


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#13 2014-09-01 3:17pm

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Re: Building new race bike

ANTDOG wrote:

I never really paid attention to weight and the feel of my bikes until I got serious about my racing and my bike

This is where I am^^^^^, but without knowing how serious i am going to get into it. My familiarity with your statement (and my willingness to start out light) comes from "over buying parts" for both dirt bikes and MTB's to upgrade. I have tried the buy stock and start up grading, but found it costs more in the end and i have a draw full of buddy bike parts. In addition, I hate selling shit, so "extras" pile up and I end up giving it away with the bike when i sell the bike.

So, figured I'd build this as though I am gonna fall back in love with racing, and if I dont, at least I have a little better parts to sell off if I can force myself to listing parts.

Good discussions so far guys, anybody else with some carbon fork input, especially being used on an aluminum frame?


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#14 2014-09-03 8:01am

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Re: Building new race bike

I have a carbon fiber fork with an aluminum frame and it feels great to me.  Originally I thought of saving some money when I built my bike and going with a chromoly fork, however, I know made the right decision with carbon fiber.

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#15 2014-12-09 4:34am

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Re: Building new race bike

Alright, finally found a great price on frame and fork during the black Friday sales. Cannot beat a 2014 PK frame for 99 bux new yikes and a Answer carbo fork for 150 after discounts and my Dans Comp rewards points.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee381/mxfan69/BMX%20Bikes%20and%20Parts/IMG_2422.jpg

Still working on the parts list on what I can afford, and keeping an eye out for high end lightly used race parts to get the best bang for the buck.


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#16 2014-12-09 5:53am

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Re: Building new race bike

Wow.  Great deal.  Something like that could inspire me to get back out on the track.


"That LiL Holeshot I built a couple years ago that took Best Mini was a nice bike, but I'll bet most people didn't even see the greatest thing about it. The frame and fork was in awesome condition, and when I started to build it I found residue of car wax in the welds. That means at one time, long ago some little kid enjoyed that bike so much that he sat and stared at it while he waxed it to perfection. That's the kinda stuff I appreciate, and can relate to very well."  John De Bruin-6/21/09

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#17 2014-12-09 2:04pm

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Re: Building new race bike

tglee wrote:

Wow.  Great deal.  Something like that could inspire me to get back out on the track.

Yup, me too. Been wanting to get out on a track but did not want to on any of my OS stuff, and not really even on the retro stuff I have either. Figured there is a reason everything has evolved and that is what I should be on. Hoping to have a blast.


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#18 2014-12-10 6:21am

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Re: Building new race bike

Keep us updated on the build and your racing.


"That LiL Holeshot I built a couple years ago that took Best Mini was a nice bike, but I'll bet most people didn't even see the greatest thing about it. The frame and fork was in awesome condition, and when I started to build it I found residue of car wax in the welds. That means at one time, long ago some little kid enjoyed that bike so much that he sat and stared at it while he waxed it to perfection. That's the kinda stuff I appreciate, and can relate to very well."  John De Bruin-6/21/09

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#19 2014-12-10 10:41am

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Re: Building new race bike

Man that PK looks good. I almost picked one up but it would've been the third frame I bought on black friday (those $99 frame sales freaking rock!). I think I'll buy one now; enough time has gone by since black friday that I won't feel guilty of compulsive spending big_smile


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