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#76 2016-04-29 7:10pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

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I'm thinking that if any of us bought a set of cartridge bearing hubs
from Crupi/etc, and were held together with tape we would be pissed    wink  tongue

Weren't the Bullseye and Phil's glued together? Or was it jus the Phil's.....

Yeah, Phil did/does some sort of bonding.
Even without the bonding the parts still fit snug though.


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#77 2016-04-29 7:12pm

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#78 2016-04-29 7:16pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

Iceman wrote:

stonie wrote:

I'm thinking that if any of us bought a set of cartridge bearing hubs
from Crupi/etc, and were held together with tape we would be pissed    wink  tongue

Weren't the Bullseye and Phil's glued together? Or was it jus the Phil's.....

Phil used some kind of epoxy I think.  The only thing that sucks about 1st gen Phils is that there is no flange in the hub shell to keep the bearings in place, so if you get a really hard sideways hit, the whole axle and bearings can slide to one side and pop out.  Loctite works fine as a replacement.


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#79 2016-04-30 9:08am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

El Gecko wrote:

Iceman wrote:

stonie wrote:

I'm thinking that if any of us bought a set of cartridge bearing hubs
from Crupi/etc, and were held together with tape we would be pissed    wink  tongue

Weren't the Bullseye and Phil's glued together? Or was it jus the Phil's.....

Phil used some kind of epoxy I think.  The only thing that sucks about 1st gen Phils is that there is no flange in the hub shell to keep the bearings in place, so if you get a really hard sideways hit, the whole axle and bearings can slide to one side and pop out.  Loctite works fine as a replacement.

Wow, seriously?    yikes

Guess that's why they are 1st gens, and not current gen.

Can't believe a hub manufacturer would not put bearing seats in the shell   roll


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#80 2016-05-01 3:01pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

Yeah I thought it was weird too, but I have a few with Loctite and a few without, and none have come apart on me yet.  Granted, I don't ride them very hard at all, just cruising the neighborhood and stuff, but they seem fine.  They are a tight enough press fit that it's pretty hard to move them anyway.  I put thousands of miles on my commuter bike in college and the bearings got bad before they moved in the shell.


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#81 2016-05-01 3:25pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

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Yeah I thought it was weird too, but I have a few with Loctite and a few without, and none have come apart on me yet.  Granted, I don't ride them very hard at all, just cruising the neighborhood and stuff, but they seem fine.  They are a tight enough press fit that it's pretty hard to move them anyway.  I put thousands of miles on my commuter bike in college and the bearings got bad before they moved in the shell.

Good to hear that nothing catastrophic happen while commuting    wink

Funny to me as people spend bank on hubs when a standard pair
of Suzue cartridge being hubs does the job perfectly, at a fraction of the price.


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#82 2016-05-01 3:28pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

I can say that there have been lots of unhappy people with Bullseye hubs.

My experience with almost every Bullseye hub has been looseness.
Even after replacing bearings there still is not tight enough tolerances     sad

Now the new Bullseye stuff may be better, don't know about that.


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#83 2016-05-03 9:07am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

stonie wrote:

El Gecko wrote:

Yeah I thought it was weird too, but I have a few with Loctite and a few without, and none have come apart on me yet.  Granted, I don't ride them very hard at all, just cruising the neighborhood and stuff, but they seem fine.  They are a tight enough press fit that it's pretty hard to move them anyway.  I put thousands of miles on my commuter bike in college and the bearings got bad before they moved in the shell.

Good to hear that nothing catastrophic happen while commuting    wink

Funny to me as people spend bank on hubs when a standard pair
of Suzue cartridge being hubs does the job perfectly, at a fraction of the price.

Yeah those repop Suzue lookalikes are a sweet deal for $50 and I trust them for pretty much any kind of riding.

Can't say the same about my Phils.


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#84 2016-05-03 10:12am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

El Gecko wrote:

stonie wrote:

El Gecko wrote:

Yeah I thought it was weird too, but I have a few with Loctite and a few without, and none have come apart on me yet.  Granted, I don't ride them very hard at all, just cruising the neighborhood and stuff, but they seem fine.  They are a tight enough press fit that it's pretty hard to move them anyway.  I put thousands of miles on my commuter bike in college and the bearings got bad before they moved in the shell.

Good to hear that nothing catastrophic happen while commuting    wink

Funny to me as people spend bank on hubs when a standard pair
of Suzue cartridge being hubs does the job perfectly, at a fraction of the price.

Yeah those repop Suzue lookalikes are a sweet deal for $50 and I trust them for pretty much any kind of riding.

Can't say the same about my Phils.

Where did you find repop Suzues?


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#85 2016-05-03 10:33am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

I bought a set of these awhile back.  Not true repops of the Suzue cartridge hubs, but pretty close.  Nice bearings, good solid construction, and they look great.  The guy used to have a bunch but it looks like he's all out.  Should have got some gold ones when I had the chance.  CRUZR_ADDICT is now selling a few sets with a $30 markup.

http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/127341


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#86 2016-05-03 11:06am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

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I bought a set of these awhile back.  Not true repops of the Suzue cartridge hubs, but pretty close.  Nice bearings, good solid construction, and they look great.  The guy used to have a bunch but it looks like he's all out.  Should have got some gold ones when I had the chance.  CRUZR_ADDICT is now selling a few sets with a $30 markup.

http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/127341

Have always wondered about those style hubs, a simple ebay search of sealed hubs and a little bit of searching you find the sealed hubs of the same style for a fraction, sure they would be just as good as any i would suppose, just no fancy brand or styling.

one type i found
http://www.ebay.com/itm/sealed-bicycle- … 4eNKDRON5Q

And some more suzue style hubs, seller has a wide selection from what i noticed, but they all come from china for a fraction of what you usually see hubs never bought any myself though

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Golden-F … rQA5yAyiRg

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#87 2016-05-03 11:38am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

El Gecko wrote:

I bought a set of these awhile back.  Not true repops of the Suzue cartridge hubs, but pretty close.  Nice bearings, good solid construction, and they look great.  The guy used to have a bunch but it looks like he's all out.  Should have got some gold ones when I had the chance.  CRUZR_ADDICT is now selling a few sets with a $30 markup.

http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/127341

Oh, those.

YeaH, I remember those.

They look like real nice hubs.
Bullet Proof made some super hi-quality hubs similar to those.

smilesmilesmilesmile


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#88 2016-06-20 11:15am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

Been having a look at this thread for a while now and was wondering did anyone find out what dimensions the front axle is managed to get a rear one done bit went with 62mm shoulders width and seems too long

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#89 2016-06-20 11:58am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

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Been having a look at this thread for a while now and was wondering did anyone find out what dimensions the front axle is managed to get a rear one done bit went with 62mm shoulders width and seems too long

If you look at page  1 I posted a pic using a 59mm shoulder to shoulder that worked great


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#90 2016-06-20 12:05pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

funpig wrote:

john69 wrote:

Been having a look at this thread for a while now and was wondering did anyone find out what dimensions the front axle is managed to get a rear one done bit went with 62mm shoulders width and seems too long

If you look at page  1 I posted a pic using a 59mm shoulder to shoulder that worked great

What bike is that axle from

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#91 2016-06-20 5:38pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

john69 wrote:

funpig wrote:

john69 wrote:

Been having a look at this thread for a while now and was wondering did anyone find out what dimensions the front axle is managed to get a rear one done bit went with 62mm shoulders width and seems too long

If you look at page  1 I posted a pic using a 59mm shoulder to shoulder that worked great

What bike is that axle from

It's not from any bike or hub. I found it at an old bike shop that let me go through some old stuff they had. It just happen to  be what I was looking for.


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#92 2016-07-03 6:14pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

Just wanted to give an update on my converted hubs. I have been riding them regularly at my local track (practice laps). Today I raced them with zero issues and took 1st in Moto 1 and in my Main. These are on my 1995 Auburn CR20RX,  so it was a bit satisfying to beat out modern race bikes. Anyway, the hubs are going strong.

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#93 2016-07-03 6:23pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

elfdoublecross wrote:

Just wanted to give an update on my converted hubs. I have been riding them regularly at my local track (practice laps). Today I raced them with zero issues and took 1st in Moto 1 and in my Main. These are on my 1995 Auburn CR20RX,  so it was a bit satisfying to beat out modern race bikes. Anyway, the hubs are going strong.

Awesome I haven't done any gt hubs yet but I did a 14mm loose ball haro hub I had with parts from a different sealed 14mm hub and even used bottle caps from a 2 liter bottle as bearing cups to make them fit, I have took them off stairs and rode the hell out of them and never even came loose. Nice to hear that your wheels are going strong and wish you good luck down the road with them!

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#94 2016-07-05 1:54pm

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

elfdoublecross wrote:

Just wanted to give an update on my converted hubs. I have been riding them regularly at my local track (practice laps). Today I raced them with zero issues and took 1st in Moto 1 and in my Main. These are on my 1995 Auburn CR20RX,  so it was a bit satisfying to beat out modern race bikes. Anyway, the hubs are going strong.

That's great news!  Mine are still on the backburner, but it's good to know your aluminum tape is holding strong!


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#95 2016-07-11 11:45am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

I managed to convert my rear gt mohawk with a gusset huka rear sealed axle with 6200 bearings runs sweet .Front I'm having a bit of difficulty with bit may have cracked it with a front odyssey vandero 1 sealed axle will keep you updated

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#96 2016-07-11 11:45am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

I managed to convert my rear gt mohawk with a gusset huka rear sealed axle with 6200 bearings runs sweet .Front I'm having a bit of difficulty with bit may have cracked it with a front odyssey vandero 1 sealed axle will keep you updated

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#97 2016-07-11 11:51am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

These were the dimensions of the axles they have
HUAG4H8F - 64mm

HUAG4H8R - 70mm

HUAGUH8F - 62mm

HUAGUH8R - 70.5mm

Pretty sure I used the last 2

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#98 2016-08-19 4:39am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

i got a old front mohawk hub with no axle? im not sure if there are two types... sealed and looseballs.... how can i find out lol


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#99 2016-08-19 4:41am

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Re: Converting my GT Mohawk hubs to sealed cartridge bearings

drc85 wrote:

i got a old front mohawk hub with no axle? im not sure if there are two types... sealed and looseballs.... how can i find out lol

Post pics


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#100 2016-08-19 4:47am

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http://www2.pic-upload.de/thumb/31496793/14022147_864011633743434_6462578755750488329_n.jpg

http://www.pic-upload.de/view-31496793/14022147_864011633743434_6462578755750488329_n.jpg.html

i hope this works big_smile


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