haro, indiana wrote:

moncho wrote:

matt thomas wrote:

I don't know which was crazier, triple backwards whiplash, or the ride in to the double!!! All brakeless and really smooth!

Thanks Matt! The multiple backward whiplashes have really been difficult to dial.

Any tips on backward whiplashes?

Three important things to do when going for them:
1. Keep the rear wheel VERY high during the whole motion.
2. Give the rear end a good swing to get whip going.
3. Make sure you keep your head and chest well centered, if you place them too far forward you're gonna flip over. Instead, push only with your arms to remain in the correct position.

Hope this helps.

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Got to ride all day.

Rideflat666 wrote:

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Got to ride all day.

help for hang 5 like on intro
i see arms very slighly bent
how much pressure on hands?
just enough to keep seat tight to butt?
most weight is on foot?

practicing in house not rolling
same difficulty right?

Rideflat666 wrote:

mac76 wrote:

Rideflat666 wrote:

https://vimeo.com/514784355

Got to ride all day.

help for hang 5 like on intro
i see arms very slighly bent
how much pressure on hands?
just enough to keep seat tight to butt?
most weight is on foot?

practicing in house not rolling
same difficulty right?

There is many variables to this ..height, setup etc....I learned these in 1988 and the best advice I will give is 1)  slam your seat ...this way you can push into it from a standing position...2) learn to leap frog over the bars..because you will fall and fall alot... 3) use parking spaces to gauge your distance and progression...4) your indoor idea ..just throw that thought in the trash 5) don't use your front break unless you like playing human catapult...6) my arms are bent and locked mostly because it's an 18.5 tt on 19tt they are a little straight and locked. 7) helps to have an understanding of rolling tricks...steam roller ,fork wheelie, side glide ,elbow glide , karl cruiser, peg wheelie ,manual...center of balance is pretty much all the same...just your position is different

cool thanks, im watching some videos
i can do backwards stuff on front wheel
this is just something i never tried
need to get outside and learn to bail otb

edit: ok i dont know all the names but i can do
all those except not tried karl cruiser and steam roller
gonna try those too

never had magazines or videos but been freestylin with pegs since 1980
just learning the names of this stuff now
watched khe flatland school few times, need to watch it few hundred more
people ask what that trick i just did was and i say idk

need to find more friends who ride flat

Last edited by mac76 (2021-02-20 6:56pm)

Hoffman SD4

Working on a geared Cruiser, klunker style, with intention of forest trails around Southern Oregon lakes.

pwh4130 wrote:

Here's a discussion with a bunch of old heads I was recently asked to join.  It's not easy riding at our age but it's still fun and possible. 

https://rideon-bmx.com/panel-zero-1-give-me-strength/

VERY cool read!!  thanks for sharing that!

razorlab wrote:

Rideflat666 wrote:

mac76 wrote:

help for hang 5 like on intro
i see arms very slighly bent
how much pressure on hands?
just enough to keep seat tight to butt?
most weight is on foot?

practicing in house not rolling
same difficulty right?

There is many variables to this ..height, setup etc....I learned these in 1988 and the best advice I will give is 1)  slam your seat ...this way you can push into it from a standing position...2) learn to leap frog over the bars..because you will fall and fall alot... 3) use parking spaces to gauge your distance and progression...4) your indoor idea ..just throw that thought in the trash 5) don't use your front break unless you like playing human catapult...6) my arms are bent and locked mostly because it's an 18.5 tt on 19tt they are a little straight and locked. 7) helps to have an understanding of rolling tricks...steam roller ,fork wheelie, side glide ,elbow glide , karl cruiser, peg wheelie ,manual...center of balance is pretty much all the same...just your position is different

Having just relearned hang-fives after a 20 year break I can attest to all the great tips here.

Learn to bail correctly for sure. I completely forgot how to do this and I had a couple of good slams, one which bruised my ribs pretty bad and I was out for awhile. Could have been avoidable if I remembered how to go over the bars correctly.

Absolutely do not use your brakes. EVER. Once you get a couple hang-fives you will see why you don't need to and how horrific things will get if you do.

One thing I will say, and I think this is probably different for everyone. I tried the lower seat method and it just made me go OTB more. I raised it until it felt more natural to me.

Here are some videos of me relearning. Maybe they will help...

Thanks to both of you for the tips! Way back when I had forward slide glides, elbow glides & steams on lock. Even had high speed feathering brake nose wheelies on ramps in the 90's, but never got hang 5's.  More recently I relearned frwd slide glides & steams but I could never get hang 5's (nor have I ever been consistant with squeakers either) I'm not sure if my block is coming from failure (fear) to lock into the seat (squeakers or hang5) or fear of going OTB now (horrible knees & wrists) but these tips do help if I ever get the balls to start playing with Hang5's again. Letsgo flat learned how to coast backwards squeakers (backwards hang5) and then unlocked them forwards. I have been playing with that technique more but my squeakers are still sketchy at best.

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Spring is coming. Got a great session in today..