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#1 2014-01-07 9:10am

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The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

For all of the experts out there.  What do you consider "real" Mongoose bikes?  Just the late 70's through Mid 80's?  I have a mid school (1996) loop tail made in Taiwan.  Is it considered a good one or is it considered no better than the current Walgoose bikes.  When did Mongoose start outsourcing to Taiwan?  Also do you all consider Mid school bikes "stronger" built than the old school bikes?

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#2 2014-01-07 9:19am

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

I'd say if it doesn't have this font: http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg547/MasterBri/7d8fba9ce6e4b99969729af6a4a1c193_zps7ec81631.jpg
Or this font: http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg547/MasterBri/cd89011ced6ba889a900397136c7dc31_zps22584d2d.jpg

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#3 2014-01-07 9:33am

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So if a Mongoose is not a 70's or 80's model they are garbage?  Why?  Collectability, build quality?

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#4 2014-01-07 9:47am

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I guess there is no love for Mid School Mongoose Bikes here.

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#5 2014-01-07 9:47am

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Just my personal opinion.
I have no personal vested interest in the construction/structural soundness of any bike. As far as collecting and such, I just get what I think looks good. Granted there are a few stragglers that go beyond 1990


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#6 2014-01-07 9:55am

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A friend of mine had a solution pro back in like 94-95,, that bike rode awesome and my other buddy had the first run of the Tim Hall frames in like 95 I think,, that was a great trail bike, that thing rode like a Cadillac. Those were great bikes in my opinion.


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#7 2014-01-07 9:58am

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To my untrained eye, my '96 loop tail looks that same from a distance as an 80's model loop tail.  I guess if I slapped some older decals on it, and called it a retro build it would get more street cred. smile

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#8 2014-01-07 10:04am

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

Spang wrote:

To my untrained eye, my '96 loop tail looks that same from a distance as an 80's model loop tail.  I guess if I slapped some older decals on it, and called it a retro build it would get more street cred. smile

That would all depend on who you're trying to get street cred from... There's plenty of dudes here that love the mid 90's geese. IMO it's all about when you grew up. I grew up in the 80's that's why I prefer 80's style bikes..
And as I said there are a few stragglers such as the villain and maybe even a hooligan and others that I wouldn't mind having


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#9 2014-01-07 10:11am

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Don't get me wrong, I grew up in the 80's too. I'm 43.  My grail bike is a 1980 Supergoose.  BITD I rode a 1980 Huffy Pro Thunder 2 but always wanted a Mongoose.  A couple of guys around the neighborhood rode them and I always admired that chrome.  I would love to eventually get an early 80's model but currently just have the '96 expert pro.  I bought it to ride with my son.  The bike is in good shape and the price was right so I could ride with him before the weather turned bad last fall.  I was just wanting to know when Mongoose bikes became "Not REAL" anymore.  Was it when they started making them in Taiwan? Was it when they were bought out by Pacific?

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#10 2014-01-07 10:19am

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

It may not satisfy some of the purists, but all the looptail geese are cool I my book.   I care about manufacturing origin now, but in the 90's I didn't.   I respected that ride then & I do know. cool


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#11 2014-01-07 10:22am

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Thanks Fridge for the Loop tail love. big_smile

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#12 2014-01-07 10:32am

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mongoose makes Pro quality bikes to this day.  They are a totally separate line of bikes from the ones sold at walmart. Heres a link to their website http://www.mongoose.com/usa/bikes/bmx  .


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#13 2014-01-07 10:37am

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

No Expert by any means, but this is how I see it. A good rider can make many Envy his bike. cool

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#14 2014-01-07 10:39am

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

I am also 43, had Mongoose bikes during my teenage years.
I only have a passion for Mongoose bikes up to about 1988, after that I got away from BMX till mid 90's on a different brand.


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#15 2014-01-07 11:29am

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Raceit, I wanted but did not have a Mongoose in my teenage years.  I guess that is why I still WANT that 1980 Supergoose I never had.  I am a bit closer by now having my '96 Mongoose expert pro.  I too like the old school better, but for now the Mid School is all this guy can afford.  Baby steps towards getting the supergoose.

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#16 2014-01-07 12:31pm

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

I have a 1998 pre-Pacific LBS Mongoose Motivator. Its the non-looptail version, but the rear stays are actually connected at the dropouts. It looks like they were trying to make a stronger version of the loop or something, IDK.

Anyway, its a 27lb Hi-ten trail bike, nothing fancy, and it alway ALWAYS gets overlooked by other people...until they get on it and ride it for themselves. At that point they cant believe how darn good the thing rides and cant stop raving about it afterward. It is a great bike.

Incidently, I bought the exact same bike a couple years later from Dunhams (first year of Pacific) and I hated it. It rode terribly no matter how many times I tried to tune it up. I got rid of it.

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#17 2014-01-07 2:55pm

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RTH, I know what you mean.  Not that I had many bikes to compare my '96 to,(only my old huffy pro thunder), but it is so light and quick and really responds quickly to every turn when I ride it.  It totally blew my mind when I first rode it.  I guess no one knows when they started making them in Taiwan and if mid school bikes are made stronger than old school bikes.  I just gathered that they were from the hundreds of posts I have read here.  I like it, I ride it so guess that is all that matters for now.

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#18 2014-01-07 3:11pm

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

The last good frame they made was the craig reynolds signature frame in early 00s. Before that in the 90s all the aluminum frames were produced by kenisis and khs i think. The brian lopes signature frame was cool was like a 20 " front half with a mtn bike rear so you could run a profile 3spd bmx kit. Aba banned multi speeds and mongoose only made like 25 of those frames i believe. The 'carbon' and 'stealth' frames were cool too. I heard mongoose is making new competitive bikes again, not department store. Any truth to that?


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#19 2014-01-07 3:18pm

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Thanks for the info JC82.  A few posts up there is a link to the new Mongoose bikes that are supposed to be as good as anyone else's and are not walgoose editions.  I did some digging on another site and found that by 1983 Mongoose frames were being built in Taiwan.  I feel that bad now with mine being made there too.

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#20 2014-01-07 4:23pm

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Spang wrote:

Thanks for the info JC82.  A few posts up there is a link to the new Mongoose bikes that are supposed to be as good as anyone else's and are not walgoose editions.  I did some digging on another site and found that by 1983 Mongoose frames were being built in Taiwan.  I feel that bad now with mine being made there too.

Yes low end completes were made in Taiwan. The ones i listed were usa.


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#21 2014-01-07 4:36pm

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They never stopped making Good bikes, they just got smart and decided to outsell everyone in the bike industry and they did:lol:

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#22 2014-01-07 4:42pm

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

Spang wrote:

Raceit, I wanted but did not have a Mongoose in my teenage years.  I guess that is why I still WANT that 1980 Supergoose I never had.  I am a bit closer by now having my '96 Mongoose expert pro.  I too like the old school better, but for now the Mid School is all this guy can afford.  Baby steps towards getting the supergoose.

I also have a 96 Expert Pro. Is yours threaded or threadless forks? I've seen both. Ride decent. The chrome and welds are nice, and it's amazingly complete, only missing the front and rear reflectors. I'm happy with mine, regardless of where it was made.


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#23 2014-01-07 4:50pm

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Mark,I really don't know if it is threaded or not.  I never looked. When it was shipped to me, the forks and stem were still on the bike and I never took them off.  I like mine too, I just wonder how an old school would feel in comparison.  Well, someday I will have that extra $450 lying around to pick up an Old School Goose.

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#24 2014-01-07 5:37pm

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Re: The Last "Real" Mongoose Bikes

Mongoose bikes were made in Merida Japan in the 80's...
Hope this helps your question..
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#25 2014-01-07 11:47pm

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Spang wrote:

Mark,I really don't know if it is threaded or not.  I never looked. When it was shipped to me, the forks and stem were still on the bike and I never took them off.  I like mine too, I just wonder how an old school would feel in comparison.  Well, someday I will have that extra $450 lying around to pick up an Old School Goose.

They feel different. Different geometry over time. It's easier to ride my 79 without hands, but, more comfy to ride the Expert Pro. But, there is something I like about the smaller 18.5" top tube - it always feels like it's under you.

This is mine. The stem on this is the stem you'd have for threadless forks.
https://ycmaaw.dm1.livefilestore.com/y2pO3vRuTczFURmTIxC-lg8YD5j744CHH3XhePyxcdnaTfUweE5tc0ricESknHMRMJ6-ZoMmgc_oEMcfOszhN54i_Vw9ZfXrs3gOIEwyGn1NQE/image%201.jpg?psid=1


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