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The official F1 thread

#1 2013-12-02 6:40pm

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The official F1 thread

As some of you may know; I love F1s.  Started one fine day in 1988 when I walked into Batchlor's Bike Shop in Highland NY and saw a Haro Dart on the display case.  Mr. Batchlor was a cool older man who started the shop in the garage of his bi-level because his son (or was it grandson- I forget) was into BMX.  He held it for me while I scrapped the money together and in no time it was mine.  I rode that bike every where for about a year until mistakingly leaving it in the wrong driveway and it was run over.  Finally been able to replace that bike and having a blast with it almost every day.  Of course wish I didn't scrap the original but I was young, stupid and hind-sight is always 20/20.  In retrospect there were quite a few parts that did not succumb to the Chevy G-20's front tire.

So I'd like use this thread to dig up info and photos on F1 bikes.  How many were made?  Do we even have any way of knowing?  I know from other posts that there are a few members who share in the love of these odd looking bikes.  How many of you have one but have not posted it?  How fast have you gone on your F1?  Anyone ever think of reproducing an HPV fairing on a 3D printer?

Its been established that these were raced on roads and in parking lots.  There is also a rumor that the parking lot races sometimes had wood berms and jumps.  That sounds painful thinking about it.

Also like to determine how many brands/options there were.  Here is a list to start with:

Haro - Dart, Pursuit, Escape
DiamondBack - Formula 1
Southern Cross - F1
Hutch - HPV, GP-1, FZ-1, FZ-1B? (later FZ-1 with fairing)
Schwinn - Qualifier
MBK (Motobecane) - Formula One
Huffy - Sonic 6
General -  Meerkat M-1, Meerkat H-1 and Meerkat L-1
Fuji - Circuit
Murray - Eliminator One
Cyclecraft - Prime
Blue Max - Max Force (added 12/03/13)
Raleigh - Comp Tech (added 12/04/13)
Dawes - Formula 1 (added 4/12/14)
Shimano - Tengai F1 Ninja (added 4/12/14)
Schauff  - F1 (added 5/1/14)
Roadmaster - Fiero (added 6/11/14)
Columbia - Formulator One (added 8/26/14)
Vigano Bicycles - Panzeri Grand Prix (added 9/11/2014)
Kuwahara - Formula 1 (added 12/03/2014)
Western Flyer - Top Gun (added 12/10/2014)
Rockfish - Proton, Neutron (added 04/08/2015)
Cyclecraft - F-1 (added 04/08/2015)
Free Spirit - Street Runner (added 06/15/2015)



Wow - over 20 confirmed F1 companies with some having multiple versions. 

Anyone know of any more or production numbers please let me know. and we'll add it here.

BTW, if you really hate F1's that is fine.  Stop reading this then.

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#2 2013-12-02 7:18pm

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Re: The official F1 thread

We have a Never assembled General meerkat frame and fork, but cant find the running gear.


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#3 2013-12-02 7:24pm

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Re: The official F1 thread

nvmyslowride wrote:

We have a Never assembled General meerkat frame and fork, but cant find the running gear.

Really?  that sounds cool.  I wonder what its story was?  Replacement frame, or was it toward the end of F1 and it was just considered worthless and parted out?


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#4 2013-12-03 6:30am

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Bikes for the World received this donation a few years ago. I didn't anticipate much of a market for it at the time so we shipped it. I at least decided to save a picture...

Blue Max Max Force:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4140/4852161820_8b4650e7be_o.jpg

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#5 2013-12-03 7:08am

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Re: The official F1 thread

RL Paulie wrote:

Bikes for the World received this donation a few years ago. I didn't anticipate much of a market for it at the time so we shipped it. I at least decided to save a picture...


Since there is a Blue Max one I can only assume that there is a Mongoose labeled version as well.

Thank you!  Added to the top post.


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#6 2013-12-03 8:11am

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That is a great old article.  I don't think they could get away with that at LAX these days though.


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#7 2013-12-03 6:51pm

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http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u572/givebmx_1/1426443_10200852720425981_1406501356_n_zps50101813.jpg



http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u572/givebmx_1/1466057_10200852723906068_865312318_n_zps6b21cfbe.jpg

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u572/givebmx_1/1460251_10200852723066047_2130377744_n_zps18e813ee.jpg


http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u572/givebmx_1/995238_10200852722826041_2028782270_n_zpsab7f55a3.jpg

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u572/givebmx_1/1458477_10200852721866017_206139566_n_zpsee148fcb.jpg


http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u572/givebmx_1/1452567_10200852721025996_556180603_n_zps78dc88d2.jpg


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#8 2013-12-03 7:05pm

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That is a really nice example.  it is going to be tough to find parts though,  I'll keep a lookout. Forgot that the meerkat had a seperate bracket for attaching the drum brake arm.  It's integral with the Dart.  That will probably be the toughest part.

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#9 2013-12-04 4:39am

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Re: The official F1 thread

This page from the Haro catalog shows some of the differences between the Dart and Pursuit
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/dart_zps2647eb945965042c7b.jpg

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#10 2013-12-04 4:41am

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Differences between Meerkat M-1 and L-1


https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/meerkatl1_zpsb7c3656c59650488d7.jpg

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/meerkatm1_zps8744e7e359650488e6.jpg

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#11 2013-12-04 4:42am

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The HPV gets all the glory, but the GP-1, FZ-1 and FZ-1B are seldom seen.

GP-1
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/fz1b_zps14bcaa85596505362e.jpg

FZ-1
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/fz1_zpse8d03d505965053647.jpg

FZ-1B (probably called only FZ-1, but later model with fairing)
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/hutchgp1_zpsbd6bdd885965053643.jpg

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#12 2013-12-04 4:43am

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Still my next Grail:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/hutch_zps35fcd06f5965057dd2.jpg

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#13 2013-12-04 8:56am

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Saw this come up in "Name It". Maybe there is some help for him in here :)

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 3#p4547223

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#14 2013-12-04 9:09pm

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Nice shots of a Qualifier I refuse to afford due to waiting for an HPV.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/qualifier1_zps2a9098f6596505bd77.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/qualifier2_zps1b70fe25596505bd7e.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/qualifier5_zps17bd791f596505bd8c.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/qualifier3_zpsd5bd1e07596505bd88.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/qualifier6_zps013acea5596505bd78.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/qualifier4_zps08797fea596505bd81.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/qualifier7_zpsd7dcf742596505bde7.jpg

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#15 2013-12-04 9:15pm

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Kurt_Rad wrote:

Saw this come up in "Name It". Maybe there is some help for him in here :)

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 3#p4547223

Looking for a source for this one.  Added to the top list.  It's definatly an F1, but one of the few single speed ones.  Raleigh seems to have gone into limbo during '88 to '92... can't find a catalogue.  Thanks to Sayyad for discovering this.  It's a stumper for now.  Must be a faux bio-pace;  it can't really have an oval sprocket without a derailleur can it?


https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/raleigh2_zps31f827e65965060393.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/raleigh1_zps0ee2c9515965060393.jpg

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#16 2013-12-06 2:07pm

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Cyclecraft Prime:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/cyclecraftprime_zps9c9aae685965062178.jpg

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#17 2014-01-02 12:57am

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Two DARTS in the fading light of a SoCal sunset.
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz93/sueicide1420/darts_zps471b3443.jpg


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#18 2014-01-02 7:40am

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http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n567/generalhustler/f11_zpsb760f403.jpg
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n567/generalhustler/f1_zpsb0c25f6e.jpg
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n567/generalhustler/post-3787-128205105042_zps534e0a6a.jpg
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n567/generalhustler/post-3787-128205105269_zpscada8c7c.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/00_Duck/MEERKAT1pic.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/00_Duck/MEERKAT2pic.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/indynick/89-pg01.jpg
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#19 2014-01-02 8:13am

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haha - everytime I see that pic with the 3 guys racing I think about how weird I must look on mine, and I hear the Miami Vice theme music playing in my head from their outfits - lol 

That Shimano address of One Shimano Drive is still active.  Wonder what would happen if I wrote the F- 1 Department?

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#20 2014-01-13 7:11am

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I've got a new baby!  Just bought today; hopefully shipping soon.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/newdart_zps89c1db475965066257.jpg


Very curious to look it over in person.  I'm thinking the wheel reflectors and the fact that the SUMO rims do not have the same horrible anodize job that are typically under Dart wheel-covers indicates that this Dart never had wheel-covers.  Even has the little rubber guards on the chainstays for the kickstand. 

Very excited!  Also ordered a set of NOS tires from chevyss.  This one will be stock.

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#21 2014-01-16 9:24am

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More details on the new baby:


https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/100_1901_zpsa3a30b6f59650691ef.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/100_1902_zpsf1df03ba5965069246.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/100_1904_zps3c7478f6596506925f.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/100_1906_zps7b27cae55965069265.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/100_1903_zps484af1885965069262.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37212/100_1905_zps94b8fd325965069269.jpg

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#22 2014-03-04 7:18am

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Nice Schwinn Qualifier for sale here in DC. Anyone want it?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ … 37026.html


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#23 2014-03-04 8:12am

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RL Paulie wrote:

Nice Schwinn Qualifier for sale here in DC. Anyone want it?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ … 37026.html

I'm out of buying fo a while - son is starting college and hobby is going on hold for about 5 years - lol

Pretty cool that it may be all original, but seems to be a little brake rub on the rims so I don't know if it's nos.  Or I could just be seeing things when the pic is magnified.  Wonder if someone went to fast and drove it into a wall and bent the forks?

The general rumor about any F1 seems to be they only made 200 of them.  Seen that disclaimer with Darts, HPVs, Meerkats...  only thing is there never seems to be anything to back it up anywhere.  There is another qualifier on the bay right now for 200 with the same disclaimer.  The serial numbers on my 2 darts are about 600+ off eachother though.

I do appreciate the heads up though - might want to also post it in the ebay/craigslist link section.

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#24 2014-04-08 10:49am

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Good evening from Wales U.K, here's some pics of a Shimano branded F1 I scored on Ebay and collected today. Cannot find much out on web but it has Shimano , Tengai and F1 Ninja decals all over it. Many of the parts are Shimano branded including the shifters and 'BioPace' chain rings etc.  I was going to strip it down and powder coat in a new colour way and dispense with all the lettering but if it's that rare it would be a shame. Has some 'weeping' rust stains on some  areas of frame so I will strip it down for a more thorough examination when time allows. [img]http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p609/jonathanmorgan1969/ShimanoTengaiF1Ninja_0006_zps47013594.jpg[/img]

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#25 2014-04-08 12:28pm

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Mogsy wrote:

Good evening from Wales U.K, here's some pics of a Shimano branded F1 I scored on Ebay and collected today. Cannot find much out on web but it has Shimano , Tengai and F1 Ninja decals all over it. Many of the parts are Shimano branded including the shifters and 'BioPace' chain rings etc.  I was going to strip it down and powder coat in a new colour way and dispense with all the lettering but if it's that rare it would be a shame. Has some 'weeping' rust stains on some  areas of frame so I will strip it down for a more thorough examination when time allows.

Thanks for posting that - I never heard of that brand  Frame looks really cool - love the triangle.  Wow - a 12 speed too.  Thought only the first Hutch HPV (which is on this site) had the front derailleur.

Is that a quick release front hub too?  can you find a sticker with country of origin on it?  It is yours so have fun with it - looks really very original though.

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