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#1 2010-03-20 2:32pm

seko
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S&M Widowmaker Registry

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We have been working on putting together an S&M Widowmaker registry. So far we have 50 Widowmakers, and 16 Pre-Widowmaker cruisers known to exist.  If you would like to be added to the registry, PM me or Ryan Partridge with your serial number, and photo and we will put your rare cruiser on the list. We would like to see what kind of pattern S&M used when serial numbering these.

Registry Updated for new owner 06-18-17

1st Gen/PRE-WIDOWMAKER CRUISER:(3 digit serial on left dropout, made by Johnny Severin)

1. Vanwylder - 015 http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 0#p4372730
2. Florida Von - 017 http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 2#p4378232
3. cannonball - 020 (OG finish & stickers)
4. ILLISS - 026 http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 5#p1966005
5. Maddkeefer - 032 (Original chrome & decals)
6. kcmobmx - 037 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/13137
7. 1pccrank - 039
8. suicidepan - 048 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/73947
9. ColoradoCoupe - 051 (powdered dark blue, may have been green originally)
10. Brian W. - 053 Refinished yellow, added V-brake mounts/cable guides
11. S&M collecter so cal - 087 (later machined headtube) http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/31226
12. suicidepan - 092 (factory green f/f with Widowmaker decals, listed on ebay in N Carolina)
13. powersbikeshop - 093 (factory blue paint, later machined headtube) http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 3#p2754503
14. Quadzilla vs. - 096 (machined headtube, marron paint, custom canti brake mounts/cable guides)
15. dirtbikes - 099 (machined headtube, large plate gusset added to headtube) http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/61333/1
16. GAry - 104

1993 WIDOWMAKER FRAMES:(Non-Gusseted, double sandwich dropouts)

1. lipshtzz - SMC2001 (serial stamped on left dropout, funky back end)
2. Alex Leech - SMC 2005 (serial stamped on left dropout, funky back end)
3. jsm - SMC 2032
4. PaulK - SMC 2033
5. BMXJunkie - SMC 2038 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/46183
6. dannybhqbmx - SMC 2042
7. RandyB - SMC 2049 (refinished white paint)
8. lipshtzz - SMC 2058
9. mach01 - SMC2071 (non drilled widow fork)
10. wagonguy - SMC 2086 (drops welded outside only, non drilled fork)
11. BuddhaTat2 - SMC 2088
12. bmxrush - SMC 2093 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/88068
13. Nbl 49a - SMC 2094 (dropouts welded inside & out)
14. Leatherman - SMC 2097 (dropouts welded inside & out) http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/60738#.UIcG3sXA-f4
15. primal - SMC 2103 (dropouts welded inside & out) http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/72618/4
16. 88cruzer - SMC 2104 (dropouts welded inside & out)
17. kingstinger - SMC 2105 (dropouts welded inside & out)
18. Pat Kuehnel - SMC 2106 (original owners, added stainless gussets as a repair himself)

1994 WIDOWMAKER FRAMES:(Gussets, single thick dropouts/welded inside and outside)

19. cannonball - SMC 2122 (factory yellow paint, refinished black)
20. BMXplus - SMC 2128 (factory yellow paint)
21. ShawnRoss - SMC 2129 (factory yellow paint) http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/38238
22. profile42 Seamus Williams - SMC 2130 (refinished yellow)
23. slhut - SMC 2131 (factory yellow paint) http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/51214
24. papalone13 - SMC 2134 (factory green paint)  http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/48542
25. RyanPartridge - SMC 2135 (factory yellow paint)
26. cannonball - SMC 2141 (factory yellow paint, non drilled widow fork) http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/48541
27. Clayton from Backpeddling - SMC 2145 (factory green paint)
28. cannonball - SMC 2147 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/7421
29. Scraplord - SMC 2153 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/46759
30. seko - SMC 2160 (non drilled widow fork) http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/29028
31. nic968 - SMC 2166
32. bsmith - SMC 2168 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/44693
33. cannonball - SMC 2174
34. Cullen - SMC 2177
35. toy24 - SMC 2180 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/50509
36. yons1 - SMC 2181
37. kentuckywidowmaker - SMC 2183
38. xxxzeemoneyxxx - SMC 2184 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/31188
39. Grumpy b - SMC2192
40. socaldude - SMC 2193 (Canti brake mounts, cable guides added after chrome)
41. cannonball - SMC 2195
42. diamondF1back - SMC 2204
43. Immortis - SMC 2208 http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/27389
44. Roy H - SMC 2210
45. Quadzilla vs. - SMC 2214
46. Detroit Dirt Bikes - SMC 2216
47. GAry - SMC 2225
48. jimmyjambo43 - SMC 2226
49. Hole$hot - SMC 2235  http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/55441
50. wds - SMC 2236  http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/sandm/6615

Last edited by seko (2017-06-17 4:47am)


Looking For:
Early 89/91 S&M Maddog
Orphan Prince Albert Crank 4th Gen
US Trick Star Frame
Peregrine Super Pros
Front Araya 7x Rider
Purple Western Hutch Stem
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#2 2010-03-20 4:33pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

seko wrote:

...I would like to see what kind of pattern S&M used when serial numbering these. I believe my Widow to be the 60th made.

I think the number scheme was whatever B&E used that day.  I have a feeling B&E stamped a bin of dropouts for each brand and style of frame and grabbed from the pile whenever they did a run of a particular frame.  Making for some out of sequence production.  I could be wrong. 

A good example of B&E's grab anything manufacturing is in this thread about Badd and Company...
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=208701

Hopefully one day I can be a part of the registry.  wink


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#3 2010-03-20 6:20pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

S&M Widowmaker Serial number. Like an ASS I sold it.sad

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#4 2010-03-20 7:41pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

Miko wrote:

seko wrote:

...I would like to see what kind of pattern S&M used when serial numbering these. I believe my Widow to be the 60th made.

I think the number scheme was whatever B&E used that day.  I have a feeling B&E stamped a bin of dropouts for each brand and style of frame and grabbed from the pile whenever they did a run of a particular frame.  Making for some out of sequence production.  I could be wrong. 

A good example of B&E's grab anything manufacturing is in this thread about Badd and Company...
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=208701

Hopefully one day I can be a part of the registry.  wink

So far the dropout serials are pretty much a consistant pattern.I only have 3 serials so far. If I was to make an educated guess, I would say SMC stands for S&M cruiser. 21 being the length of the top tube. And the last 2 digits being the actual run number. Once again, this is just a guess. But if its true, we could say at least 74 were made. Please send me those serial numbers so we can get a better idea of how they numbered the Widows.

SMC2160
SMC2166
SMC2174


Looking For:
Early 89/91 S&M Maddog
Orphan Prince Albert Crank 4th Gen
US Trick Star Frame
Peregrine Super Pros
Front Araya 7x Rider
Purple Western Hutch Stem
Gold 1" S&M Redneck

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#5 2010-03-20 7:46pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

Dangit!!!
The wife is gonna get tired of my gotta get this one story.I know where one is 24inch built pretty nice sitting I think it's for sale.
What's the story with these things?
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#6 2010-03-20 7:50pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

I have SMC2214 wink

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#7 2010-03-20 8:07pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

SMC2236
SMC does stand for S&M Cruiser I Beliive. But the first two numbers don't seem to have any relevance with TT length. My TT seems to be closer to 21.25 as well.
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#8 2010-03-22 7:50am

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

Here is mine.  SMC2103
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm38/sanddad/SM078.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm38/sanddad/SM071.jpg


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#9 2010-03-22 3:18pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

Congratulations  Sandad!!!!! You officially own the earliest known Widowmaker.

Last edited by seko (2010-03-22 3:19pm)


Looking For:
Early 89/91 S&M Maddog
Orphan Prince Albert Crank 4th Gen
US Trick Star Frame
Peregrine Super Pros
Front Araya 7x Rider
Purple Western Hutch Stem
Gold 1" S&M Redneck

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#10 2010-03-22 6:06pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

seko wrote:

Congratulations  Sandad!!!!! You officially own the earliest known Widowmaker.

Thanks to BMXKID for parting with this.
Still in need of green anno hubs for it.     anybody?


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#11 2010-03-22 6:23pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

I just posted pics of mine SMC2038 very early one without gusset!   They should all be 21 1/4"tt

Also mine has a one off pitchfork, the guy I bought the F&F bent the original fork and S&M made a new for
him with a plug welded in the bottom to stiffin it up! Kinda like a plug on top of Stupid/Menstrual forks!

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#12 2010-03-22 6:24pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

mine is SMC2168. i was also the owner of 2166. i owned both at once, but i knew one of them had to be passed on to someone else. it just didnt seem fair to have both of them:lol:
pitchfork
mint redneck
early gays
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#13 2010-03-22 6:30pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

seko wrote:

http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu34 … CN1104.jpg
I've been working on putting together an S&M Widowmaker registry. So far I have 17 known Widowmakers known to exist. Out of the 17 bikes I only have 2 serial numbers. If you would like a list of these bikes with serial numbers, PM me with your serial # and I will PM you a the list. I would like to see what kind of pattern S&M used when serial numbering these. I believe my Widow to be the 60th made.

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#14 2010-03-22 8:06pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

SMC2094

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#15 2010-03-22 8:47pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

I HAVE A BUDDY THAT HAS A WIDOW MAKER TOO, THAT IS NOT A MEMBER ON HERE, AND IM SLOWLY WORKING ON GETTING IT FROM HIM FOR MY COLLECTIONS


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#16 2010-03-22 9:06pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

fugg... if any of yalll ever think about selling ur widowmaker... LMK  sad


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#17 2010-03-22 9:15pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

hmm, when did the front gussett start, how many of each type..


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#18 2010-03-23 8:35am

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

Gary, I would like to find that out to! I read somewhere that Kelly Baker? stated the earlier ones didnt
have the triangle gusset and based on the serial numbers looks to be correct but no info on how may of each.


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#19 2010-03-23 9:00am

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

sanddad wrote:

seko wrote:

Congratulations  Sandad!!!!! You officially own the earliest known Widowmaker.

Thanks to BMXKID for parting with this.
Still in need of green anno hubs for it.     anybody?

hit up Erole for hubs..I think he may have a set of green PMC hubs for sale...

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=206527

Last edited by rockabillyjay (2010-03-23 9:03am)

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#20 2010-03-23 12:36pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

..maybe you can note gusset or no gusset next to the serial #s...

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#21 2010-03-23 12:39pm

seko
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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

rockabillyjay wrote:

..maybe you can note gusset or no gusset next to the serial #s...

OK... Just edited the registry with the info I have.

Last edited by seko (2010-03-23 12:43pm)


Looking For:
Early 89/91 S&M Maddog
Orphan Prince Albert Crank 4th Gen
US Trick Star Frame
Peregrine Super Pros
Front Araya 7x Rider
Purple Western Hutch Stem
Gold 1" S&M Redneck

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#22 2010-03-23 12:42pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

sanddad's is non gusset for sure wink

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#23 2010-03-23 12:50pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

Is Gary's 104 really SMC2104? right after sanddad's?

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#24 2010-03-23 12:58pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

rockabillyjay wrote:

Is Gary's 104 really SMC2104? right after sanddad's?

I dont know. He sent me both of his serials. GAry please confirm......?


Looking For:
Early 89/91 S&M Maddog
Orphan Prince Albert Crank 4th Gen
US Trick Star Frame
Peregrine Super Pros
Front Araya 7x Rider
Purple Western Hutch Stem
Gold 1" S&M Redneck

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#25 2010-03-24 5:22pm

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Re: S&M Widowmaker Registry

SMC 2093, no gusset.


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