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Mid-School HARO THREAD - for those of us that love the midschool haro

#8926 2019-06-01 9:05am

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Hey guys I have an aluminum group 1 I think it's a 99', I was in the process of refinishing it and found two cracks at the base of the seat post, do you think its worth having repaired if I'm most likely going to let it go? or take the hit in the value and pass it on as is to someone who wants to take on the project? https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/257956/20190519_0744545cf2a1b1b9.jpg
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#8927 2019-06-01 9:18am

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Let it go now and take the hit on value if you aren't going to keep it.  If i'm a buyer I'd want to have repaired myself knowing how/who did it.  my .02


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#8928 2019-06-01 9:19am

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Quick weld... easy fix


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#8929 2019-06-01 9:32am

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KRUZNYO wrote:

Quick weld... easy fix

Really?  I heard that aluminum is not as easy to weld...


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#8930 2019-06-01 9:41am

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Tundruz wrote:

Let it go now and take the hit on value if you aren't going to keep it.  If i'm a buyer I'd want to have repaired myself knowing how/who did it.  my .02

I agree.


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#8931 2019-06-01 9:45am

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fairlyodddad wrote:

KRUZNYO wrote:

Quick weld... easy fix

Really?  I heard that aluminum is not as easy to weld...

Not hard, just different. Not a whole lot of welders ever touch aluminum, the welds get contaminated too easy in a ferrous(iron based) metal shop. But yes, easy fix for the right person.


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#8932 2019-06-01 9:55am

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Woodmaster wrote:

fairlyodddad wrote:

KRUZNYO wrote:

Quick weld... easy fix

Really?  I heard that aluminum is not as easy to weld...

Not hard, just different. Not a whole lot of welders ever touch aluminum, the welds get contaminated too easy in a ferrous(iron based) metal shop. But yes, easy fix for the right person.

Ah, I get it. cool


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#8933 2019-06-01 9:11pm

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Ok, thanks for the help. I haven't taken it to a shop yet but I got conflicting info from a couple of people with a lot of welding experience, one said I would have to grind all the previous welds off and start all over and most likely it wouldn't look anywhere as good as all the rest of the welds on the frame. The other guy said it was no big deal and he would fix it right up but his tight welder isn't set up yet. I'll take it to a pro and get his/her take on it and go from there. Thanks!

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#8934 2019-06-02 6:35am

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eisele1 wrote:

Ok, thanks for the help. I haven't taken it to a shop yet but I got conflicting info from a couple of people with a lot of welding experience, one said I would have to grind all the previous welds off and start all over and most likely it wouldn't look anywhere as good as all the rest of the welds on the frame. The other guy said it was no big deal and he would fix it right up but his tight welder isn't set up yet. I'll take it to a pro and get his/her take on it and go from there. Thanks!

It will never have the look or integrity of a new frame, no matter who you find to fix it. Unless you are super attached to these bikes I would get something else. Seat tube even looks to be crushed a bit as well as the cracks.


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#8935 2019-06-02 6:52am

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eisele1 wrote:

Ok, thanks for the help. I haven't taken it to a shop yet but I got conflicting info from a couple of people with a lot of welding experience, one said I would have to grind all the previous welds off and start all over and most likely it wouldn't look anywhere as good as all the rest of the welds on the frame. The other guy said it was no big deal and he would fix it right up but his tight welder isn't set up yet. I'll take it to a pro and get his/her take on it and go from there. Thanks!

It will never have the look or integrity of a new frame, no matter who you find to fix it. Unless you are super attached to these bikes I would get something else. Seat tube even looks to be crushed a bit as well as the cracks.

Yes it can and will.... We weld aluminum all day at our shop ge the right person to fix it.  I guarantee it will be better than original.


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#8936 2019-06-02 6:53am

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Woodmaster wrote:

eisele1 wrote:

Ok, thanks for the help. I haven't taken it to a shop yet but I got conflicting info from a couple of people with a lot of welding experience, one said I would have to grind all the previous welds off and start all over and most likely it wouldn't look anywhere as good as all the rest of the welds on the frame. The other guy said it was no big deal and he would fix it right up but his tight welder isn't set up yet. I'll take it to a pro and get his/her take on it and go from there. Thanks!

It will never have the look or integrity of a new frame, no matter who you find to fix it. Unless you are super attached to these bikes I would get something else. Seat tube even looks to be crushed a bit as well as the cracks.

Yes it can and will.... We weld aluminum all day at our shop get the right person to fix it.  I guarantee it will be better than original.


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#8937 2019-06-02 7:34am

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KRUZNYO wrote:

KRUZNYO wrote:

Woodmaster wrote:


It will never have the look or integrity of a new frame, no matter who you find to fix it. Unless you are super attached to these bikes I would get something else. Seat tube even looks to be crushed a bit as well as the cracks.

Yes it can and will.... We weld aluminum all day at our shop get the right person to fix it.  I guarantee it will be better than original.

Stress relieving it then, or not necessary ?


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#8938 2019-06-02 7:45am

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What temper do the tubes have? Do you back-gas it? Does the post even fit now? Weld it with a copper post inside?

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#8939 2019-06-02 8:23am

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fairlyodddad wrote:

Woodmaster wrote:

fairlyodddad wrote:


Really?  I heard that aluminum is not as easy to weld...

Not hard, just different. Not a whole lot of welders ever touch aluminum, the welds get contaminated too easy in a ferrous(iron based) metal shop. But yes, easy fix for the right person.

Ah, I get it. cool

TIG welding steel is done with direct current, pointed tungsten. Aluminum is alternating current, balled electrode. Also half a dozen regular types of tungsten to choose from based on what yer weldin. Has to be super clean, and just prior to welding as the oxide starts to form immediately. And you can't clean it with anything that has cleaned steels. One grain of steel dust in your weld path will ruin the bead.


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#8940 2019-06-10 4:10am

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eisele1 wrote:

Hey guys I have an aluminum group 1 I think it's a 99', I was in the process of refinishing it and found two cracks

Hard to find an alloy frame from the mid 90s that isn’t cracked. The ‘98/‘99 version was a lot beefier and didn’t crack as easily as the earlier models. I’m actually just polishing mine up now. cool

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#8941 2019-06-16 2:07pm

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I recently bought a Haro Group 1 AL PRO.  I think it is an 01.  It came with some great parts, Fusion chain ring, Fusion stem, knee saver bars and Weinmann rims.  I was surprised that it came with one piece cranks.  According to the seller, it was owned by someone who had a bike shop and built it for himself.  Were one piece crank standard back in 00?  Or is there a strong reason the owner would have chosen one piece over three piece?  Thanks.

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#8942 2019-06-16 11:12pm

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I recently bought a Haro Group 1 AL PRO.  I think it is an 01.

Did you have a picture of it? There was no PRO version. There was 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 with some earlier models having an elite version.


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#8943 2019-06-17 10:11am

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nnjrider wrote:

I recently bought a Haro Group 1 AL PRO.  I think it is an 01.

Did you have a picture of it? There was no PRO version. There was 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 with some earlier models having an elite version.

http://imgur.com/46GV3Cx
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The sticker on the down tube says PRO
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#8944 2019-06-17 3:58pm

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nnjrider wrote:

DannyEllis wrote:

nnjrider wrote:

I recently bought a Haro Group 1 AL PRO.  I think it is an 01.

Did you have a picture of it? There was no PRO version. There was 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 with some earlier models having an elite version.

http://imgur.com/46GV3Cx
http://imgur.com/htSvouF
http://imgur.com/XiRSpcp
http://imgur.com/Bi1C6kX
http://imgur.com/wu0VfZ1
The sticker on the down tube says PRO
Thanks.

Pro being frame size, not a model? 20.75"


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#8945 2019-06-17 4:04pm

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I recently bought a Haro Group 1 AL PRO.  I think it is an 01.  It came with some great parts, Fusion chain ring, Fusion stem, knee saver bars and Weinmann rims.  I was surprised that it came with one piece cranks.  According to the seller, it was owned by someone who had a bike shop and built it for himself.  Were one piece crank standard back in 00?  Or is there a strong reason the owner would have chosen one piece over three piece?  Thanks.

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#8946 2019-06-17 4:09pm

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Yeah, it’s a ‘01 AL 2.0. Actually since this page seems to dedicated two alloy frames lol. Would any of you guys happen to have these to black lugs that hold the brake cable in place when the cable enters the frame? I’m chasing a set.
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#8947 2019-06-17 4:13pm

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DannyEllis wrote:

Yeah, it’s a ‘01 AL 2.0. Actually since this page seems to dedicated two alloy frames lol. Would any of you guys happen to have these to black lugs that hold the brake cable in place when the cable enters the frame? I’m chasing a set.
Thanks

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … d8374.jpeg

If they are the same ones Specialized put in the Fatboy, I most likely have some extras. Looks pretty close, can take pictures when I get home. A lot of cheap mountain bikes were doing the cables in the frame thing in the 90's. Huffy's for sure, my sister had one.

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#8948 2019-06-17 5:19pm

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Woodmaster wrote:

DannyEllis wrote:

Yeah, it’s a ‘01 AL 2.0. Actually since this page seems to dedicated two alloy frames lol. Would any of you guys happen to have these to black lugs that hold the brake cable in place when the cable enters the frame? I’m chasing a set.
Thanks

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … d8374.jpeg

If they are the same ones Specialized put in the Fatboy, I most likely have some extras. Looks pretty close, can take pictures when I get home. A lot of cheap mountain bikes were doing the cables in the frame thing in the 90's. Huffy's for sure, my sister had one.

Hopefully Woodmaster can sort you out with a pair. I have never lost one thankfully on my ‘97 Monocoque, but had friends that did and there were a pain to find replacements bitd.

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#8949 2019-06-17 6:12pm

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AJ Macaroo wrote:

Woodmaster wrote:

DannyEllis wrote:

Yeah, it’s a ‘01 AL 2.0. Actually since this page seems to dedicated two alloy frames lol. Would any of you guys happen to have these to black lugs that hold the brake cable in place when the cable enters the frame? I’m chasing a set.
Thanks

https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … d8374.jpeg

If they are the same ones Specialized put in the Fatboy, I most likely have some extras. Looks pretty close, can take pictures when I get home. A lot of cheap mountain bikes were doing the cables in the frame thing in the 90's. Huffy's for sure, my sister had one.

Hopefully Woodmaster can sort you out with a pair. I have never lost one thankfully on my ‘97 Monocoque, but had friends that did and there were a pain to find replacements bitd.

Saw this in a thread once, thought someone is making them now. Thread was in reference to Fatboy's though, bit flatter tube.


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#8950 2019-06-18 11:36pm

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Have asked around a bit for the plastic lugs but if I can not find any, there is a Haro T-Bone being sold locally so that is the back up plan. Thanks guys.

Also, noticed this while I was looking at the local for sale section check out this old girl!

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