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#51 2016-10-12 3:35pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

WalkerInTN wrote:

One of the nicest things about that article is that is shows what lengths Wade went to make a bike that light.

Custom aluminum frame, plastic headset, 24 spoke wheels, etc...

Which makes those stories some people try to tell about those lightweight pro bikes sound even more like the BS they are.

Yep its all myth and hearsay from the minds and mouths of 13 year olds 30 years ago


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#52 2016-10-12 3:37pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

The hutch i posted is the answer cut and dry. That thing had ti spokes and haro bars. So if you didnt have ti spokes and haro bars then guess what lol

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#53 2016-10-12 4:14pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

hmmmm.  we need FRESSTYLE FREEK to start a "Lightweight 80's only build-off"  !!!!!!

The lightest all era correct 80's parts bike build-off....  !!!! 

weighed by LBS scales only!


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#54 2016-10-13 3:07am

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^^^^^^  I think that sounds like a cool idea!  cool


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#55 2016-10-13 9:09am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

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One thing i can say for sure. As a person with actual experience trying to build sub 20 lb oldschool bikes its almost franking impossible and thats coming from a adult with good income and the internet so for anyone to say oh i knew this guy and his bike weighed 17 lbs or whatever should be met with extreme skepacism. The difference between a 22lb bike and a 19lb bike is is usually hundereds of dollars of titanium. Most likely back in the day your 22lb bike was actually 27 and his 19 lbs bike was actually 23. It just didnt happen often with a pro size bike and anyone who says different probably doesn't know what they are talking about

i got a 16.5 lb. proline mini and a 17.5lb proline mini. both are old school and neither have any crazy exotic parts.
(alloy bars and 20-1 1/8 wheels and tires on one of them is the only difference)

my pl20 with mini wheels weighted 21lbs and that was the only part i changed from a stock proline
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/21460/temp57ffb56a96.jpg

the killer back then was the wheels, cranks and seat/post combo. uni seats easily gave you a pound or more back and going
alloy over cro mo in the crank department did as well. but going to a mini wheelset was easily the easiest way to shave a couple of pounds.
and any of these changes were not that expensive.

what i find interesting is that i boult a pair of twin schwinns predators (a 20 and a 24) using all the same parts and the 24" only weighted
a pound more then the 20". i though for sure the larger cruiser would of weighed a lot more seeing how almost everything for it is bigger.


made2drag wrote:

hmmmm.  we need FRESSTYLE FREEK to start a "Lightweight 80's only build-off"  !!!!!!

The lightest all era correct 80's parts bike build-off....  !!!! 

weighed by LBS scales only!

yea because if he does another heavyweight, i will kill it with what i found a while back. lol

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#56 2016-10-13 9:24am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

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squirrelsmith wrote:

One thing i can say for sure. As a person with actual experience trying to build sub 20 lb oldschool bikes its almost franking impossible and thats coming from a adult with good income and the internet so for anyone to say oh i knew this guy and his bike weighed 17 lbs or whatever should be met with extreme skepacism. The difference between a 22lb bike and a 19lb bike is is usually hundereds of dollars of titanium. Most likely back in the day your 22lb bike was actually 27 and his 19 lbs bike was actually 23. It just didnt happen often with a pro size bike and anyone who says different probably doesn't know what they are talking about

i got a 16.5 lb. proline mini and a 17.5lb proline mini. both are old school and neither have any crazy exotic parts.
(alloy bars and 20-1 1/8 wheels and tires on one of them is the only difference)

the killer back then was the wheels, cranks and seat/post combo. uni seats easily gave you a pound or more back and going
alloy over cro mo in the crank department did as well. but going to a mini wheelset was easily the easiest way to shave a couple of pounds.
and any of these changes were not that expensive.

what i find interesting is that i boult a pair of twin schwinns predators (a 20 and a 24) using all the same parts and the 24" only weighted
a pound more then the 20". i though for sure the larger cruiser would of weighed a lot more seeing how almost everything for it is bigger.


made2drag wrote:

hmmmm.  we need FRESSTYLE FREEK to start a "Lightweight 80's only build-off"  !!!!!!

The lightest all era correct 80's parts bike build-off....  !!!! 

weighed by LBS scales only!

yea because if he does another heavyweight, i will kill it with what i found a while back. lol

the next heavyweight  build off is almost here. tongue but a feather weight build of could be fun to do!


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#57 2016-10-13 9:32am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

made2drag wrote:

hmmmm.  we need FRESSTYLE FREEK to start a "Lightweight 80's only build-off"  !!!!!!

The lightest all era correct 80's parts bike build-off....  !!!! 

weighed by LBS scales only!

I can see it know! it would mostly  be full of law suit Hutch mini frames, MSC mantis mini frames and Titian mini frames. I bet built with lots of titanium parts and drilled alloy parts. like alloy Campy cranks with 50 holes hand drilled in them to shave ounces lol


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#58 2016-10-13 10:03am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

yes but keep it pro size only!  I got a Schwinn Predator 1/4 dash that weighs 23 pounds and has heavy stock parts on it.  It would give me a reason to give it a diet instead of ebaying the frame and forks!


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#59 2016-10-13 2:14pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

robk131313 wrote:

My Hutch Junior Racer was very light. smile

How about some pics of you riding it.


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#60 2016-10-13 4:21pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

Draw wrote:

squirrelsmith wrote:

One thing i can say for sure. As a person with actual experience trying to build sub 20 lb oldschool bikes its almost franking impossible and thats coming from a adult with good income and the internet so for anyone to say oh i knew this guy and his bike weighed 17 lbs or whatever should be met with extreme skepacism. The difference between a 22lb bike and a 19lb bike is is usually hundereds of dollars of titanium. Most likely back in the day your 22lb bike was actually 27 and his 19 lbs bike was actually 23. It just didnt happen often with a pro size bike and anyone who says different probably doesn't know what they are talking about

i got a 16.5 lb. proline mini and a 17.5lb proline mini. both are old school and neither have any crazy exotic parts.
(alloy bars and 20-1 1/8 wheels and tires on one of them is the only difference)

my pl20 with mini wheels weighted 21lbs and that was the only part i changed from a stock proline
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-image … b56a96.jpg

the killer back then was the wheels, cranks and seat/post combo. uni seats easily gave you a pound or more back and going
alloy over cro mo in the crank department did as well. but going to a mini wheelset was easily the easiest way to shave a couple of pounds.
and any of these changes were not that expensive.

what i find interesting is that i boult a pair of twin schwinns predators (a 20 and a 24) using all the same parts and the 24" only weighted
a pound more then the 20". i though for sure the larger cruiser would of weighed a lot more seeing how almost everything for it is bigger.


made2drag wrote:

hmmmm.  we need FRESSTYLE FREEK to start a "Lightweight 80's only build-off"  !!!!!!

The lightest all era correct 80's parts bike build-off....  !!!! 

weighed by LBS scales only!

yea because if he does another heavyweight, i will kill it with what i found a while back. lol

Mini wheels and 21 lbs are not thing im talking about. Im talking about the legit pro bike claimed to be 18 lbs

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#61 2016-10-13 4:22pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

A Cinelli musta been light back then...


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#62 2016-10-13 6:11pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

Someone say light bikes? big_smile


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#63 2016-10-13 6:52pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

Legendofjd3 wrote:

Someone say light bikes? big_smile

dang nice Carver 24....   15.68 pounds is super light! 

whats your lightest pro sized 20?


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#64 2016-10-13 7:04pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

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Someone say light bikes? big_smile

I had my 600a down to 15lbs and then I started bending everything. From what I remember the parts list was:
RL 600a Frame
Skyway TA forks
Vector Bob Haro bars
Pro Class with bullseye hubs and 80/60/80 SS spokes
Uni turbo seat
Sugino 1-piece cranks
Suntour xc-II
MX-900 brakes/Tech 3
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#65 2016-10-13 8:07pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

eric12 wrote:

Legendofjd3 wrote:

Someone say light bikes? big_smile

I had my 600a down to 15lbs and then I started bending everything. From what I remember the parts list was:
RL 600a Frame
Skyway TA forks
Vector Bob Haro bars
Pro Class with bullseye hubs and 80/60/80 SS spokes
Uni turbo seat
Sugino 1-piece cranks
Suntour xc-II
MX-900 brakes/Tech 3
Sedisport chain

This is what i have warned about lol


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#66 2016-10-13 8:15pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

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BmxRider420 wrote:

The cook bros in my bikes is 21lb 5oz. That's my lightest for a pro sized bmx bike. I don't see much to do to cut any more weight on it.

You can knock over a pound off by switching to a UNI seat.  I'd leave it as it is, but a UNI seat knocks off over a pound on any bike that doesn't have one already.

Troxel Comet was better and lighter.


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#67 2016-10-13 9:30pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

Interesting topic and the light  ""PRO  SIZE""  bike build off sounds cool.

In 84-85 I raced a Hutch Pro Racer that was  18 lbs  ,  ? oz.   ..... I don't recall the onces

part list ...

*Hutch pro racer F & F
*Hutch pro bars
*Suntour power stem
*Ukai aero 20x1.5 rims
*Specilized hubs
*Tioga comp 3 20x1.75's
*Takagi 175 cranks
*Tuf Neck disc & chain ring 44
*Shimano PD-MX15 pedals
*UNI seat
*D-C hinge clamp
*D-C MX1000 w/ tech 3 rear only


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#68 2016-10-13 10:03pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

God this thread reminds me of 1984 all over. Lots of stories and myths and none that actually used an (accurate) scale.. Lol.."I could lift it w/ 2 fingers and mini wheels on a pro bike" haha

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#69 2016-10-13 10:48pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

looptailnut wrote:

robk131313 wrote:

My Hutch Junior Racer was very light. smile

How about some pics of you riding it.

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#70 2016-10-14 12:16am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

Mattybmx wrote:

God this thread reminds me of 1984 all over. Lots of stories and myths and none that actually used an (accurate) scale.. Lol.."I could lift it w/ 2 fingers and mini wheels on a pro bike" haha

yep it's all crap until i see it on a legit scale


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#71 2016-10-14 12:16am

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Haro7 wrote:

Interesting topic and the light  ""PRO  SIZE""  bike build off sounds cool.

In 84-85 I raced a Hutch Pro Racer that was  18 lbs  ,  ? oz.   ..... I don't recall the onces

part list ...

*Hutch pro racer F & F
*Hutch pro bars
*Suntour power stem
*Ukai aero 20x1.5 rims
*Specilized hubs
*Tioga comp 3 20x1.75's
*Takagi 175 cranks
*Tuf Neck disc & chain ring 44
*Shimano PD-MX15 pedals
*UNI seat
*D-C hinge clamp
*D-C MX1000 w/ tech 3 rear only

not buying that you would have to prove it


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#72 2016-10-14 12:32am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

squirrelsmith wrote:

Haro7 wrote:

Interesting topic and the light  ""PRO  SIZE""  bike build off sounds cool.

In 84-85 I raced a Hutch Pro Racer that was  18 lbs  ,  ? oz.   ..... I don't recall the onces

part list ...

*Hutch pro racer F & F
*Hutch pro bars
*Suntour power stem
*Ukai aero 20x1.5 rims
*Specilized hubs
*Tioga comp 3 20x1.75's
*Takagi 175 cranks
*Tuf Neck disc & chain ring 44
*Shimano PD-MX15 pedals
*UNI seat
*D-C hinge clamp
*D-C MX1000 w/ tech 3 rear only

not buying that you would have to prove it

I had a 18 pound 14 ounce RRS with Takagi cranks, but my forks and bars were paper thin, I was using the Suntour mini stem, I had no brakes, even the eccentric adapter and brake studs were removed, and the seat was a Troxel Comet. I believe the pedals I was using at the time I weighed mine were refurbished Skyways.


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#73 2016-10-14 12:36am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

BTW, Skyway pedals sucked because we'd sheer off the locator pegs and twist out the screw hole on one hard landing. I was refurbishing them by putting in a larger attachment screw and replacing the locator pegs with screws.


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#74 2016-10-14 6:33am

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18 is easily done with light parts.  starting with a 5.5 pound frame and fork, add 4 for cranks and pedals, 3 for bars, grips and stem, 2 for wheels and tires, 1.5 for seat seat post and a pound for bearings, brake and air in your tires.


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#75 2016-10-14 6:35am

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well 18 is achievable not "easy".  I does take some thought and weighing to determine which parts are lightest but still strong


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