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#26 2012-12-27 1:07pm

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I was a racer and I'm curious how many raced, rode around the block in a makeshift BMX biker gang, did freestyle relatively seriously, etc bitd. Very few kids I knew in my circle (racers) had stock bikes. Literally one did. We built our bikes up from scratch with the parts we wanted or could afford from shoveling snow, mowing lawns or got for birthdays or Christmas.

The lightest bikes were never stock. Stock bikes, unless there were $700 to $800 stock bike were rarely made up with high end (light) parts. I have the DB Silver Streak shown above. My Patterson PR 200 is lighter than that bike and it's much bigger. Stock bikes generally have mid quality parts meaning heavy stems, cranks, pedals, heavy guage spokes, steel spoke nipples, etc. All of those part add up, ounce by ounce to make for heavier bikes. Race bikes almost never had front brakes and based on all of the rims I've purchased, almost every one has front brake rub, therefore I'd assume they came from a stock bike with front brakes. Front brakes also add a ton of weight. I know this did not answer your question but I've been wondering lately why so many people try to build up a stock bike. I guess that's what most people think BMX was.

Before Freestyle BMX was two things to me, 1. neighborhood racing, jumping and bunny hopping for height or 2. racing on a track for points and trophies. I did not know anyone that had a quality, light bike that did not race except for one of my friends in Jr. High. He wanted a bike like mine. The only competing he did was on snowy day when we took our bikes into our room and spun our front wheel to see who's could spin the longest. I had Phil hubs so I always lost. They were smooth but did not spin like loose ball hubs with heavy rims.  For what it's worth...

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#27 2013-02-02 12:39pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

When i was a kid it was all about the Fuji Feather when this topic came up.

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#28 2013-02-04 10:56am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

My racer bitd...'82 Hutch pro racer f & f, cut down hutch pro bars, dk stem, pro class rims w/suzue sealed hubs, super lite tubes, comp 2 1.75 fr & rr, shot gun seat w/straight hutch post cut down, dc mx1000rear only, 401 flight cranks w/ suntour xc1, hutch pads, haro plate..21lbs race weight. cool

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#29 2013-02-04 11:45am

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Profile built a complete mini-it weighed 9.5 lbs. and cost $1295


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#30 2013-02-04 11:47am

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I forget where the article is but they did a build with aftermarket parts to get a feather weight 20---If I remember it had Vector bars.


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#31 2013-02-04 6:52pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

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Diamondback F1 (83-84)

Right On.  Diamondback Formula One - 4 pounds 0.5 ounces (with headset cups and BB cups)

Rebel Racing General Lee Stick Tail frame 3 lbs 9 ounces

MCS Magnum frame 3 lbs 10.5 ounces

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#32 2013-02-04 7:35pm

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JS-44SDS wrote:

I forget where the article is but they did a build with aftermarket parts to get a feather weight 20---If I remember it had Vector bars.

Yep. I still have the mag.

I did have vector bars and very odd componentry.

The jist of the article was to assemble the lightest possible 20" bike without regard to practicality.


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#33 2013-02-05 8:46am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

Haven't actually weighed it but my '84 Traker f/f is very light. Feels like mabye 5/6lbs with f/f/headset


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#34 2016-10-11 3:43pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

KoolAidMan wrote:

Oh yeah, if your folks (or you, FTM) could afford to pay double, then the Hutch Pro Star was 18 LBS 14 oz .... ( I have a childhood friend that weighed just under this at birth ... LOL)

the bmx plus test from BiTD put it at 21lbs.

http://www.hutchbmx.be/intertest/prostar84.html

my 1984 proline pl20 with 20x1 3/8" wheels was also 21lbs. or a touch over but with regular wheels it clocked in at a bump under 24 lbs.

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#35 2016-10-11 3:51pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

My cousin two towns over has a Redline that weighs 8 pounds...

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#36 2016-10-11 9:39pm

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Holy necro thread...

One of the lightest bikes I had ever seen was my friends Kuwahara Laser light. He had Araya Aero's, redline 401, Hutch Beartraps, Uni seat, and some kinda redline stem. I think it weighed only 15-16 pounds.

2ns lightest Bike was mine big_smile It was a 88 Kastan with unifork, Perigrine 3-piece, Araya 7x's, Gt stem and handle bars. I got more into free style and sold it... big mistake lol. But it was approx 18 pounds.

We used to judge it if you could lift it with two fingers it was a good bike, but the goal was to lift it with one finger.

I have a couple Diamond Backs now, a Pacer 500, and a Silver Streak. They're light but nothing like the two above, in fact my Kastan FF was well under 5 pounds and people kept asking me if it was aluminum.

Hutch, GT's etc if they are 4130 they're usually pretty light. The secret to a nice light feeling bike is all in the wheels, and how heavy they feel. To me the holy grail is Araya aero's, and some Sun Minstrels with sealed hubs. Also 1 piece cranks were always lighter then 3 piece, and people who bent them didn't know how to land ;p

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#37 2016-10-12 12:57am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

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#38 2016-10-12 2:30am

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#39 2016-10-12 8:15am

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#40 2016-10-12 8:23am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

but that's a mini bmx not a full size 20"

there have been 8 lbs mini bmx and 5 lbs micro mini were looking for lightest 20" pro size frame.tongue

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#41 2016-10-12 9:45am

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Titan T1000's were very light. Easily build a sub 20lb machine.


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#42 2016-10-12 10:12am

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#43 2016-10-12 10:23am

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My Hutch Junior Racer was very light. smile

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#44 2016-10-12 11:51am

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

novabmx wrote:

I used to have a 84 diamondback when I was 15 or so, and it was very light I used to jump the hell out of It. yikes

The Achilles heel on the Formula One were those boat anchor forged cranks, change those out to alloys and that bike is very light for being out of the box.


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#45 2016-10-12 12:14pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

one of my buddies had a CycleCraft frame and fork and built it up with 1 3/8's and a Uni seat and light bars and a DK stem.  Not too long ago we talked, he told me he love competing with me: seeing who could go the furthest on jumps and who could bunny hop the longest gaps.  He was 14 but like #2 in his age group in the southeast.  He says it was fun and all, but he had a bike that weighed half of my Master and he knew he had a big advantage.  I remember that thing being in the 15-18 pound range.

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#46 2016-10-12 1:53pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

still got a long way to go before anyone touches the road bike scene

http://blog.fairwheelbikes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DSC_0228-1024x680.jpg
this complete is a bump over 6lbs. and thats crazy impressive

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#47 2016-10-12 2:02pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/vitus/

Superlight Vitus with bonded 797 aluminium-frame, made in France.
Great bike, very light and responsive but a little flexy and prone to breaking.

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#48 2016-10-12 2:02pm

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One thing i can say for sure. As a person with actual experience trying to build sub 20 lb oldschool bikes its almost franking impossible and thats coming from a adult with good income and the internet so for anyone to say oh i knew this guy and his bike weighed 17 lbs or whatever should be met with extreme skeptacism. The difference between a 22lb bike and a 19lb bike is is usually hundereds of dollars of titanium. Most likely back in the day your 22lb bike was actually 27 and his 19 lbs bike was actually 23. It just didnt happen often with a pro size bike and anyone who says different probably doesn't know what they are talking about

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#49 2016-10-12 2:57pm

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oh, like the magazine pic you posted?  smile a few parts drilled out and cut off seat post and no cages and 20 x 1 3/8's with skinwalls... 18-20 range is a very realistic number

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#50 2016-10-12 3:25pm

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Re: Lightest 80's bmx bike

One of the nicest things about that article is that is shows what lengths Wade went to make a bike that light.

Custom aluminum frame, plastic headset, 24 spoke wheels, etc...

Which makes those stories some people try to tell about those lightweight pro bikes sound even more like the BS they are.

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