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S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

#2051 2013-12-30 12:46pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

franticbmx wrote:

Does anyone know if the Chrome 22" arc rims are available separately?

No they r not sad

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#2052 2013-12-30 12:52pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I can get the wheels for 160$ at dans with the discount code but they want$90 for shipping. I have sheild wrap profile minis and I wanted to go chrome rims ,but I may just go with the stock pinned rims I already have.


All i want to buy is a cyclecraft made BLOCK.

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#2053 2013-12-30 1:00pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I had to buy the black ones n polish it for my Holmes build. Now I'm waiting for another set for my ATF build. Maybe by summer they'll get some smile

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#2054 2013-12-30 4:13pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

i did both.... started with stock and went ss spokes, de-ano/polish, and shield wrap'd minis. then chrome arc came out and i switched hoops.


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#2055 2013-12-30 5:27pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I was thinking of building an ATF with the extra wheels but I think I'll hang on and sell some crap to make space.


All i want to buy is a cyclecraft made BLOCK.

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#2056 2013-12-30 6:01pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

Is everyone still as happy with their 22 as I am?


Ummmmm..........Yeah.

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#2057 2013-12-30 7:45pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

i love mine to death.
took it to the track for practice day this weekend. i was curious as to how it handled on fast dirt. especially 'cause it manuals so easy and steep gearing. well i loop'd it after running through a step up too smoothly. left me with more speed than i was ready for. cleared the next set (unexpectedly) landing in a manual. LOOP OUT! i felt knee pop pop pop; then the smashing head bounce and shoulder skid to a stop. it was magic for the 5 laps before that. even with the "crummy" innova tires.
I <3 that bike.
she is my swan song 


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#2058 2013-12-30 7:47pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

When tires/tubes aren't popping, yes. When they are, which is almost every time in ride it, then it nearly becomes the newest posting in the for sale section.

I don't get to ride much, but when I do, I grab my btm tongue


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#2059 2013-12-30 7:54pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I love my Holmes!!geting a ATF 22!

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#2060 2013-12-30 9:29pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

Im glad to hear that everyone. Its pretty obvious we all love our new bikes for the most part. I know many have looked forward to a new bike that looked sweet only to find out it wasnt exactly what we were hoping for. I for one have been lucky enough to love each bike I've built over the last 3 years since I joined the Museum. But from personal experience, I adjust to whatever I own in some way, shape or form as long as the basics are proper such as top tube. I can rock 175, 180 or 185mm crank arms. Each bike I have is very different even though they are all S&M. But I have to say that while Im 110% stoked about each bike I own, the Holmes 22 is by far the coolest ride I've ever owned in my life. I love 20's, such a blast and so quick. 24's are killer for the track and even better for long rides. But the 22 really bridged the gap for me and really delivers down the middle. I cant claim to be a balls out bone breaking rider, at least not any more. I paid those dues 7 years ago and nearly lost the whole game. But I have to say that for the first time I'm riding for pure fun and the 22 is a total blast. cool

For those that want something new and really fun to ride, you simply must consider a 22. I've never been a cheerleader for gear or brand name, ride what you like. But if you like to ride for fun, dirt or pavement, a 22 is bar none one of the coolest bikes you can get.


Ummmmm..........Yeah.

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#2061 2013-12-31 5:10am

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I ride mine daily in the summer and I have been to 4 different indoor parks since the weather froze. Anything I ride now feels tiny and funny in my hands neutral


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#2062 2013-12-31 7:08am

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

Since USA BMX has basically shut the door on the 22", I don't ride mine at all. Ironic, considering how much of a cheerleader I've been for the 22" wheel. I pretty much ride my 20" on non-race days and the cruiser when I race. Other than that, I don't have much time on the ATF. It is still the most comfortable and fun of all the bikes that I own, but it's just not practical since I started racing again.

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#2063 2013-12-31 7:24am

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I'm on the fence with my Holmes.  As far as using it to cruise, it works well, but it will not replace my 20" if I want to do more than cruise.  I still have a couple of ideas of what may need to be switched to adjust, but it just don't work for me as a street bike.  I know part of the problem is me and my screwed up body, but the geometry feels wrong to me, too.


I keep buying and selling, so I guess I wasn't happy with the four I had left.

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#2064 2013-12-31 11:13am

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

teachbmxcharlie wrote:

Since USA BMX has basically shut the door on the 22", I don't ride mine at all. Ironic, considering how much of a cheerleader I've been for the 22" wheel. I pretty much ride my 20" on non-race days and the cruiser when I race. Other than that, I don't have much time on the ATF. It is still the most comfortable and fun of all the bikes that I own, but it's just not practical since I started racing again.

I haven't read anything since the GT/ Mike Day made that 22" do you have a reference on USA BMX's decision on not allowing them?

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#2065 2013-12-31 2:01pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

So some of you guys love 'em and some don't? The white ATF I got from Steve is the best bike I've rode on street. I take my MOB when I hit the indoor parks cause I'm not that good and the 26'' wheels are way more forgiving. But outside I'm on the 22''. The Cardona just sits there unless someone has nothing to ride.
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#2066 2013-12-31 2:21pm

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I love my ATF. Way better than the Holmes! Just wish I didn't have a tire/tube issue nearly everytime I ride it. My btm is always a safe choice so I usually grab it


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#2067 2013-12-31 2:23pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I don't hate it, I just haven't found the right set up or just have not had enough time riding it.  When I do have time, I usually grab my 20" ATF instead as I like to enjoy my ride, not struggle to do simple tricks.  I have swapped bars and stems out to try every option I have/had on hand, but have yet to swap cranks as that is the only other part that may make a difference, but it seems like a stretch.  The current bar and stem combo feel the best, but something is still off and it makes me want to strip it back down to the "package", sell it,  and just use the leftover parts and whatever I make off the "package" to build my new Barcode when it arrives.  However, I am stubborn and refuse (so far) to sell it before I figure out what it takes to adjust to the 22.  I'm to the point of ordering a new S&M Long Johnson post and raising the seat to the height of the 80s.  I had one good day that it clicked out of twenty different days I rode it over the last year.  I'm sure if I had a trail, track, or maybe even a decent park to ride, I might like it more.


I keep buying and selling, so I guess I wasn't happy with the four I had left.

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#2068 2013-12-31 2:27pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

What bars and stem are you running?
Rob

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#2069 2013-12-31 2:45pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I have had Hoder bars, Grand Slams, and Slams which I am currently running.

Stems have went through Redneck XLT, a few top loads, and I am currently running a Shadow 48mm front load. 

Profile 175mm cranks with 25t S&M spline drive.


I keep buying and selling, so I guess I wasn't happy with the four I had left.

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#2070 2013-12-31 2:50pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

I've got stolen cell bars and Sunday freeze top load on mine and love it. I'm 6'4 if that helps any.


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#2071 2013-12-31 2:51pm

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Seems like you have the bar covered.
Rob

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#2072 2013-12-31 5:12pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

Maybe I am too short for a 22.lol
I'm 5'8.5", but I was 5'10" before my neck and back issues.


I keep buying and selling, so I guess I wasn't happy with the four I had left.

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#2073 2013-12-31 6:26pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

wburke17 wrote:

teachbmxcharlie wrote:

Since USA BMX has basically shut the door on the 22", I don't ride mine at all. Ironic, considering how much of a cheerleader I've been for the 22" wheel. I pretty much ride my 20" on non-race days and the cruiser when I race. Other than that, I don't have much time on the ATF. It is still the most comfortable and fun of all the bikes that I own, but it's just not practical since I started racing again.

I haven't read anything since the GT/ Mike Day made that 22" do you have a reference on USA BMX's decision on not allowing them?

I contacted USA BMX over a year ago regarding the 22" wheel being specifically addressed and categorized for the 2013 race season. The reply I received said that it would be addressed--I'm still waiting for an explicit mention of the 22" wheel. The last exchange I had was basically left at USA BMX saying they will be following UCI's protocol. The 22" is too big for class and too small for cruiser, but can be raced in the open wheel class at USA BMX sanctioned races.

Before the NBL was taken-over and incorporated into USA BMX, the NBL allowed the 22" to be raced as a cruiser. The truth is that the current 22" wheels with the Innovas or Faction tires are only about 1/4" to 1/2" too big for running in class, depending upon tire pressure. If UCI were to raise the nominal size for class by 1/2", the 22" could be raced in class. Until you see the 22" raced as a class bike and not a cruiser, it isn't going to be more than a big-guy, non-racers BMX bike. Could you imagine how much faster and gnarlier the BMX Supercross would be with 22"s? Take the top guys in Supercross and put them on 22"s and I think you have a completely different animal.

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#2074 2013-12-31 6:32pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

This is taken directly from USA BMX's website:

OPEN WHEEL CLASS

• Good news for Cruiser riders: USA BMX/BMX Canada will now allow Cruisers to compete in the Mixed Open and X-Open classes at nationals. If a rider is racing in the cruiser class and is also competing in the Novice or Intermediate class that day, he may choose to race his 24” bike in the Mixed Open class. If he is racing in the Expert class or only planning to race Cruiser & Open that day, he will be placed in the (Expert) Open class.

2. Bicycles for competition in the Boy/Girl/Pro classes can
have no larger than a 20” nominal wheel diameter. 12”, 16”
& 18” bicycles are acceptable for competition.
3. Bicycles for competition in the Cruiser/Girl Cruiser can
have no smaller than a 24” nominal wheel diameter.

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#2075 2013-12-31 6:35pm

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Re: S&M fans, who's gonna buy the new 22" Holmes?

i agree. taking mine around the track was awesome! it was faster than i would have guessed lol ouch


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