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RL20II clean up...not quite resto

#151 2012-08-30 11:37pm

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

That was the most thorough and descriptive museum addition I've ever seen and read , great job . :cool:

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#152 2012-08-31 12:28am

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

Thank you.  It was well worth the time and expense I am extremely content with the way it all turned out and am happy that I did it when I did, before things got too far gone that I couldn't bring it back to what you see. :D


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#153 2012-09-08 4:15pm

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

I finishing revision for the better!

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/Richie-Rich71/IMAG1165.jpg

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/Richie-Rich71/IMAG1166.jpg


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#154 2012-09-09 2:12pm

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Installed, White sealed bearing freewheel... a freewhweel worthy of being on an RL-20II

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/Richie-Rich71/IMAG1168.jpg


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#155 2012-09-09 4:06pm

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

XJguy wrote:

Installed, White sealed bearing freewheel... a freewhweel worthy of being on an RL-20II

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 … AG1168.jpg

Looks blue to me lol






I'm playing, I dig rl 20ii's

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#156 2012-09-09 6:24pm

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

TheKoolKids wrote:

XJguy wrote:

Installed, White sealed bearing freewheel... a freewhweel worthy of being on an RL-20II

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 … AG1168.jpg

Looks blue to me lol






I'm playing, I dig rl 20ii's

The dumb chain tensioner ever so slightly removed some of the blue on the edge....would bother me to no end if I had to see it, fortunately unless I am looking under the bike I cant  see the blue.


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#157 2012-09-10 4:59am

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

XJguy wrote:

TheKoolKids wrote:

XJguy wrote:

Installed, White sealed bearing freewheel... a freewhweel worthy of being on an RL-20II

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 … AG1168.jpg

Looks blue to me lol






I'm playing, I dig rl 20ii's

The dumb chain tensioner ever so slightly removed some of the blue on the edge....would bother me to no end if I had to see it, fortunately unless I am looking under the bike I cant  see the blue.

My bikes have more nicks and dents then you have notches on your bed post......
But I guess you got a show bike, something I'm not into. Looks good, but a tiny little nick is really no big deal... And when talking bout bmx.... Then yea use and abuse that's what it was built for.. So even if you went to a show... It would STILL get a good score w/ or w/o thy nic...

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#158 2012-09-25 8:55pm

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

i only say some of the first page, but i think the tires look rediclous.    i would not drill anything for flush mount brake bolts that would ruin it.  i think the 86's came with nippons.   never been a fan of the repop plates bu tits better than nothing, i do like your cracked orginal plate thats good to put on a shelf espically since youve had it so long.

nice frame set either way!


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#159 2012-09-25 9:46pm

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Oh I love the tires....a smaller size up front would have been better, but I absolutely love the color...best decision I made and actually the main reason I decided to rebuild my bike.  Skinwalls never made much sense to me, beige went with nothing....but it did help break up all the black.

The plate color could have been a better match (I think the Turquoise matches the 86+ which is darker) but its still so much better than the original which totally clashed, and judging by Redline's prototype release photos it seems the original intention was to offer the plates in matching colors but it probably got canned for whatever reason.  Back when the flush mounted brakes came out the only reason I did not drill was because I realized the bolt would be too long, otherwise those forks would have been drilled out back in 85.

The stock calipers on the 85 RL-20II are chrome FS880's with frame color matching lettering, I had the shop swap out the rear for 901s.  In 86 they came with Nippons.


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#160 2012-09-25 9:52pm

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Oh and Dia Compe originally did not intend the FS880s for the rear....they were a freestyle calipers made specifically for down-tube clearance hence the stumpy upper arm....the actual correct match is the 901 even though the factory equipped the 880 front and rear.  The 901 is more compact, arm is higher and tucked in to avoid hooking onto the back of shoes.


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#161 2012-09-26 7:53am

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i dont like 901's at all, i like the matching 880's and i knew all that.  you said urs in an 86?  the frame looks like an 85, whats the serial number?

i think you should have left it alone considering you said it will not be a rider, whats the sence of putting on a few newer parts and coloring all the logos and numbers to match.  i understand colored betters on the brake calipers cause they came that way but the RL logos on the bars and the 182 on levers looks kinda silly, but thats just my opinion, and yes i did that once or twice but never again.


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epoch headset, freestyle vs. race - http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 7#p4233077

All the hub/hoop measuring info you will need along with spoke calculation info http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 9#p5435389

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#162 2012-09-26 3:01pm

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

Most of which you are asking about and commenting about I went over in my build up and in my museum entry...including the 86 typo.   But regardless I could not be happier with the way my bike came out, as far as looks I would not change one single thing.   The only way I could make this bike any better would have been to use Super Pros and freestyle Forklifter bars everything else is flawless in my eyes.  But I welcome any constructive criticism and other points of view. :D


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#163 2012-10-01 6:50pm

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Year one:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg581/Richie-Rich71/Scanned%20photos/BMX80s_0025.jpg


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#164 2012-11-19 11:00pm

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Awesome thread!

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#165 2012-11-22 11:40pm

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

I am seriously consoidering doing a slight modification here.

Porkchop's 4130 adapter:

http://www.porkchopbmx.com/images/StemAdapter-211-CHROME1.jpg

With Redline's Hollow Point Pro stem (would get it powdered)

https://www.jrbicycles.com/storefront/images/uploads/Stems/stem00061%20rl%20hollowpoint_02.jpg


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#166 2013-10-03 8:54am

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

This thread was great, so informative and descriptive of every detail. I like your choice of parts especially the little details on the bars, pegs and brakes with the paint. I also have an 85 Turqoise RL-20II that I just put in the museum, it's my rider so it's not 100% old school but I still love it. Check it out if you can.

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#167 2013-10-03 1:13pm

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Thanks Ken!  Your RL looks great, what kind of sprocket is that?


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#168 2015-03-14 5:58am

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

XJguy wrote:

Hmmm...... pre-production model has me thinking......

http://www.knt2000scustoms.com/vintage/85RedlineAd.jpg

Does anyone know why the paint  on the rear triangle goes so low in the ad??? I kinda like it

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#169 2015-03-14 6:53am

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redline 600 wrote:

XJguy wrote:

Hmmm...... pre-production model has me thinking......

http://www.knt2000scustoms.com/vintage/85RedlineAd.jpg

Does anyone know why the paint  on the rear triangle goes so low in the ad??? I kinda like it

I've seen a couple factory painted frames like that.   It's strange for sure.   

Here's another example.  Totally different year but has the paint further down the seatstays:  http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=635755

That mango is an oddity for several reasons though.

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#170 2015-03-14 6:59am

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That one is really strange, paint over chrome on an 88 with the green decals????? See something new everyday. I asked because I'm painting my 86 today and I'm tempted to paint with the paint further down the frame like in the ad.

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#171 2015-03-14 7:11am

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The ad was done BEFORE the bikes were available & they adjusted things like every company does so what you bought sometimes didn't match the ads.


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#172 2015-03-14 9:14am

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redline 600 wrote:

XJguy wrote:

Hmmm...... pre-production model has me thinking......

http://www.knt2000scustoms.com/vintage/85RedlineAd.jpg

Does anyone know why the paint  on the rear triangle goes so low in the ad??? I kinda like it

Prototype bike. Also take note of the brake calipers, and brake pads, as well as the black seat guts and seat decal.  The Fork decals are white, production models are turquoise.  The Flight wheel is black, to my knowledge they were never black that circa.  The color keyed number plate never made production either.

Seems they wanted to keep the extremities black and white, ties it all in together very nicely.  Black and white wheels, black and white seat, black and white grips.  Lots of great design here.

If I were to need a complete refinish of my Redline I might have duplicated the pre-production model.


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#173 2015-03-14 12:00pm

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Hi, very nice Redline. I have a turquoise too.

Btw the Porkchop's 4130 adapter that you mention is it a 1inch to 1 1/8 adapter ?

I search Pork web site and could not find it.
My headset keeps getting loose on mine even with a locking nut..

Thanks.

Frank.

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#174 2015-03-14 12:03pm

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Re: RL20II clean up...not quite resto

Yes that is an adapter for use with a modern style stem.


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