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#1 2012-05-01 9:42am

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BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

Wanted some opinions. I am considering getting a pair.


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#2 2012-05-01 10:38am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

just got them and going to put them on my retro condor today.  Nice 4 piece bar.  masterblasterplanet is an ebay shop rin by my friend.  8, 8.5 or 9" rise available.


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#3 2012-05-01 10:48am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

You can at least count on them being strong.  Just watch BoneDeth videos on youtube.  As far as the feel goes, that's a personal preference, but they may take some getting used to if you've rode regular 2 pc. bars for years.


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#4 2012-05-01 11:05am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

I like my Hitman 4 piece bars, Made in USA 4Q baked.  I definitely LOVE the Bone Deth bars as well.  They are both Hoffman copies!!!
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu287/dpercival1971/Hitman%20Bikes/IMG_6391.jpg
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu287/dpercival1971/Hitman%20Bikes/IMG_6397.jpg
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#5 2012-05-01 11:13am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

I'd say the Hitman bars are more like the S&M AD bars or Standard Strip bars. the Bonedeth bars are like the Hoffman bars, not just in the crossbar, but in the way they attach to the clamp area
http://bonedethbmx.com/index/product%20pages/highres/BON_DeadmanBars-Bk%20copy.jpg
If you like the look of the Bonedeth bars, but prefer more backsweep, try to find a pr of Goods BMX's Stanton Meth bars.
http://goodsbmx.net/blog/?p=4349
Also modeled after the Hoffman/Bully/Redline bars, but with 12 degrees of backsweep vs. Bonedeth's 10. Made by Solid BMX.
I like 'em.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/wds178/Bikes/debaced0.jpg
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#6 2012-05-01 11:27am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

Both the above mentioned bars are a sub par design and are more* prone to failure. The junction by the clamping area is inferior to a two piece bar. There is a lot of stress there, and a half wrap weld (which was proven inferior on cranks 20+ years ago) can and will not hold up to hard riding as well as a quality 2pc. bar.

I had that same bar made that stanton has, by the same manufacturer, a few years back. 8 of out 10 tests sets broke, fortunately none catastrophically.

Remember the odyssey 4x4 bars? probably not, because they only sold them for about a year, and quit due to failure.
If odsy can't make it good with their 41 thermal heating, then who can?

If you value your teeth, get a pair of Slam bars instead.

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#7 2012-05-01 11:37am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

Mr. Fit wrote:

Both the above mentioned bars are a sub par design and are prone to failure. The junction by the clamping are is inferior to a two piece bar. There is a lot of stress there, and a half wrap weld (which was proven inferior on cranks 20+ years ago) can and will not hold up to hard riding.

I had that same bar made that stanton has, by the same manufacturer, a few years back. 8 of out 10 tests sets broke, fortunately none catastrophically.

Remember the odyssey 4x4 bars? probably not, because they only sold them for about a year, and quit due to failure.
If odsy can't make it good with their 41 thermal heating, then who can?

If you value your teeth, get a pair of Slam bars instead.

Thank the good lord I saw this post,I would not want to go for a ride in the near future,ride off a curb and smash all my teeth out due to my Bonedeth Deadman bars being inferior & weak.Looks like I will be taking them off and throwing them over my shoulder and replace them with unbreakable Slam bars.


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#8 2012-05-01 11:45am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

here are some of the dudes that these "WEAK/INFERIOR" bars were designed for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLQu5vGHkQ4


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#9 2012-05-01 12:00pm

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

Your sarcasm may have been relevant Spyker had there not been damning evidence laid on the table, and had my statements been pulled out of thin air.
Instead you sound like a fool.

Also worth mentioning; I've got nothing against either company, but I sleep better at night knowing the bars I had made are not on anyones bike anymore.

Edit:
Take it how you will, but when you learn to read things in context let me know! Until then, please be sure to get your panites in a wad.

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#10 2012-05-01 12:22pm

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

wds wrote:

I'd say the Hitman bars are more like the S&M AD bars or Standard Strip bars. the Bonedeth bars are like the Hoffman bars, not just in the crossbar, but in the way they attach to the clamp area
http://bonedethbmx.com/index/product%20 … 20copy.jpg
If you like the look of the Bonedeth bars, but prefer more backsweep, try to find a pr of Goods BMX's Stanton Meth bars.
http://goodsbmx.net/blog/?p=4349
Also modeled after the Hoffman/Bully/Redline bars, but with 12 degrees of backsweep vs. Bonedeth's 10. Made by Solid BMX.
I like 'em.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/ … baced0.jpg
-Bill

man, thats a nice looking bike!


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#11 2012-05-01 1:08pm

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

just got them and going to put them on my retro condor today.  Nice 4 piece bar.  masterblasterplanet is an ebay shop rin by my friend.  8, 8.5 or 9" rise available.

I was looking at them because of the angles. 10 and 3 the same angles as my Shadow bars on my race bike. Thesre bars would go on  the trickstar, if I got them


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#12 2012-05-02 8:15am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

although i do see where sh1tfit is coming from ...


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#13 2012-05-02 8:51am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

Mr. Fit wrote:

Both the above mentioned bars are a sub par design and are more* prone to failure. The junction by the clamping area is inferior to a two piece bar. There is a lot of stress there, and a half wrap weld (which was proven inferior on cranks 20+ years ago) can and will not hold up to hard riding as well as a quality 2pc. bar.

I had that same bar made that stanton has, by the same manufacturer, a few years back. 8 of out 10 tests sets broke, fortunately none catastrophically.

Remember the odyssey 4x4 bars? probably not, because they only sold them for about a year, and quit due to failure.
If odsy can't make it good with their 41 thermal heating, then who can?

If you value your teeth, get a pair of Slam bars instead.

I don't disagree with you at all.  I broke many Primo Moe's bars (like the S&M AD), Hoffman, Haro and Basic handlebars.  I have had a set of Odyssey 44's on my flat bike for about 8 years though and they are holding tight with some street and ramp riding thrown in.

The 4 piece bars are stiffer but transfer all the shock down to the welds.  Two piece bars usually bend or crack at the crossbar weld first.  I have cracked 2 piece bars at the stem clamping area but that could be from overtightening but not likely.

Still, the 4 piece bars have a look people like.  They are also narrow at the clamping area which helps with turndowns and about a million flatland tricks.  All of us should know by now no BMX parts last forever.  We should also know to look for cracks and stress marks around welds.  I'm putting my Bonedeth bars on my Condor but I have FBM Belmar bars on my regular streeter.  Sooner or later they all die.  The trick is to keep an eye on your parts before you get hurt.


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#14 2012-05-02 8:54am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

Ant-  I shop by geometry too.  Trust me, they would be the strongest part on a Trick Star.


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#15 2012-05-02 9:05am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

Well....
I love fbm, yea there a little 666 going on over there but I'm sorry bone death and them boys take it too fair..
Kicking over grave stones to make a jump...... And then photo and film it.... That's a bit much for me.... I stay away from there products.

But I can't denie that burns is a great rider!!!


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#16 2012-05-02 9:22am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

deveus33 wrote:

here are some of the dudes that these "WEAK/INFERIOR" bars were designed for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLQu5vGHkQ4

Cool video. Looks like those guys use 2 piece bars too. I could have missed others here and there though...

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#17 2012-05-02 9:54am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

I think it is purely un-scientific and there is no source or facts to say 4pc (or more) are weaker just because of the welds..   There's more too it then that..  Mainly being tube thicknesses used are too thin (lately).   Otherwise it's just pure bias BS that only really changed because, lately people only care about weight, and that's the only reason anyone runs 2pc bars now; not for actual strength value.

What is the height of these Hitman Castillo bar copies?  and no up-sweep right?  I'd get this bar to try it if there is minimal upsweep to so I don't get a lot of shoulder pain (like I did with bob scerbo bars).  I only really like just back sweep of 10 to 12. 
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu287/dpercival1971/Hitman%20Bikes/IMG_6391.jpg

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#18 2012-05-02 10:05am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

spyker wrote:

Mr. Fit wrote:

Both the above mentioned bars are a sub par design and are prone to failure. The junction by the clamping are is inferior to a two piece bar. There is a lot of stress there, and a half wrap weld (which was proven inferior on cranks 20+ years ago) can and will not hold up to hard riding.

I had that same bar made that stanton has, by the same manufacturer, a few years back. 8 of out 10 tests sets broke, fortunately none catastrophically.

Remember the odyssey 4x4 bars? probably not, because they only sold them for about a year, and quit due to failure.
If odsy can't make it good with their 41 thermal heating, then who can?

If you value your teeth, get a pair of Slam bars instead.

Thank the good lord I saw this post,I would not want to go for a ride in the near future,ride off a curb and smash all my teeth out due to my Bonedeth Deadman bars being inferior & weak.Looks like I will be taking them off and throwing them over my shoulder and replace them with unbreakable Slam bars.

I lol'd at this..   I've seen Slams break bend and whatever else...


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#19 2012-05-02 10:10am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

i've seen CULT leader bars snap like twigs .... slams get bent the $hit out of and so on and so forth .....if you ride hard expect the unexpected i guess....


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#20 2012-05-02 10:16am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

TheKoolKids wrote:

Well....
I love fbm, yea there a little 666 going on over there but I'm sorry bone death and them boys take it too fair..
Kicking over grave stones to make a jump...... And then photo and film it.... That's a bit much for me.... I stay away from there products.

But I can't denie that burns is a great rider!!!

Read a interview on that whole gravestone thing,they did not kick it over for the photoshoot,it was already down on the ground and they happen to stumble upon it,so they say anyways.

Bonedeth has some pretty good products,can't wait until they release the 48H hubs they have planned.


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#21 2012-05-02 10:19am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

cdridesonly wrote:

I lol'd at this..   I've seen Slams break bend and whatever else...

All bars can snap,bend or break,it's not like Moeller @ S&M sprinkles them with fairy dust to make them immuned to damage.


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#22 2012-05-02 11:08am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

To tell you a true story, I know a guy who owns a big bmx company (not named above) who makes bars that will bend.  He and the riders would rather go through a couple of bars than destroy their wrists.  I have seen so many people, including myself, jack their wrists on the hold Hoffman Love Handles.  Trust me, a little flex is good.  You don't want super stiff bars.


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#23 2012-05-02 11:26am

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

spyker wrote:

cdridesonly wrote:

I lol'd at this..   I've seen Slams break bend and whatever else...

All bars can snap,bend or break,it's not like Moeller @ S&M sprinkles them with fairy dust to make them immuned to damage.

Yes he does!!!


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#24 2012-05-02 12:25pm

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pwh4130 wrote:

. . .I have seen so many people, including myself, jack their wrists on the hold Hoffman Love Handles.  Trust me, a little flex is good.  You don't want super stiff bars.

i jacked my wrist on Hoffman Love Handles too. 

Then again, back in 1996,  I actually preferred 1" head tubes and wedgebolt stems over 1 1/8 threadless when they first came out because wedge-bolt stems allow for a little more flex.


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#25 2012-05-02 5:45pm

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Re: BONE DEATH HANDLEBARS

TheKoolKids wrote:

spyker wrote:

cdridesonly wrote:

I lol'd at this..   I've seen Slams break bend and whatever else...

All bars can snap,bend or break,it's not like Moeller @ S&M sprinkles them with fairy dust to make them immuned to damage.

Yes he does!!!

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