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#26 2011-11-02 1:54pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Yeah, I need to photograph a bunch of my bikes and actually submit them to the museum. I just never think about it while I'm working on them. hmm

and yeah, you should just be able to remove the nut/washer from the cranks. THen *gently* tap the spindle with a rubber hammer (or wood block) to push the bearings out on the other side. At least that's they way I've always removed them. smile

And if it's that much of a pain, you should just let me help you out and take it off your hands. Haha! I've already tried once! big_smile


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#27 2011-11-02 4:15pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Thanks for sharing!--This bike has me puzzled. The red tube sticker is from the 1st type of Osborn Pro sticker style. But as stated earlier, that bike should have a place in the gusset for the rotor cable to pass. Are you positive the head tube sticker is OG?


Put that thing up on the General thread:

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.p … 61&p=5

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#28 2011-11-02 4:38pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

It's puzzled me as well. I need to email my buddy and see if he can remember if he ever replaced it. I didn't think he did. He put a sticker over it which I took off when I got it home and found this one there. But I'll ask and see if he remembers.


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#29 2011-11-02 4:46pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

I believe the 1st version of the Osborn pro only came in white, chrome, red, and charcoal grey. The second version did come in black, but the head tube decal was the ''G'' decal with the new ''General font'' for lack of a better term.


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#30 2011-11-02 7:19pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Talked to the original owner and he says that sticker is original.  If I ever find any old pics of us I guess we'll solve it. But we don't recall which downtube stickers it had. Hopefully we'll find some old pics.


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#31 2011-11-02 8:25pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Looking good... subscribed .. wanna see how this turns out

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#32 2011-11-03 2:24pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

A lot of people used Dyno bars on General Osborn Pros....
Because of this guy.

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http://www.23mag.com/mags/fs/fs8807.jpg
http://www.23mag.com/mags/ba/ba8810.jpg

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#33 2011-11-03 4:23pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

There were a few black late '87 f/f sets that had the '87 decals. These all came with the '88 appointments you mentioned (no gusset holes, coaster tab, etc.). There were also red f/f with the same appointments. Both of these were only sold as a f/f set, not completes.

My best guess is that these were done late in '87, when General was starting to feel the crunch of the bmx industry dying. These same f/fs were then later restickered with the '88 decals.

In years of looking, this is the only stock photo I've found on any General literature that shows these two rare Generals. This scam is from an '87 dealer sheet I have.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/elcidd/General%20Osborn/op_black_87.jpg

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#34 2011-11-03 4:29pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Nice! Thank you! I was perplexed! This also explains why most original components were gone.


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#35 2011-11-03 4:38pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

So it's actual a frame made in late 87 with 87 decals before the release of the 88 decals. Is that correct?


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#36 2011-11-03 4:46pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

dts123 wrote:

So it's actual a frame made in late 87 with 87 decals before the release of the 88 decals. Is that correct?

That's the best theory I've come up with. Being that they were broke, and RL had already left, they simply changed the decals and used up the remaining stock of f/fs in '88. To date, I haven't seen any marketing for the '88 models, but all the one's I've seen were purchased as f/f sets. I suspect the '88s were only offered as a f/f set.

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#37 2011-11-09 8:32am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Had to stop working on the frame,  getting the rest of the rust out of the rear drop out section around the frame stands is tuff. Will tackle that later, for now, its good for a rider.
Started working on the forks and then hopefully this weekend the bars, then the headset cups and crank.
Realized the rear brake handle has a crack, so I'll be looking for a black and silver rear dia comp 182 to replace.  Frame still has sticky from stickers that were on it that I need to scrub off. Then hoping to find some repop decals to put on.  One odd thing is that on the fork threads, down inside the headtube, they aer stripped in one section.  Wont' interfere with them once installed, but can't figure out how you would strip them that far down on the threads.  I'll have to double check when putting together, may have been before the Gyro was added.

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/photo1-10-2.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/photo2-8-2.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/photo3-8-3.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/DSC_0722.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/DSC_0721.jpg


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#38 2011-11-09 8:56am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

dts123 wrote:

Had to stop working on the frame,  getting the rest of the rust out of the rear drop out section around the frame stands is tuff. Will tackle that later, for now, its good for a rider.
Started working on the forks and then hopefully this weekend the bars, then the headset cups and crank.
Realized the rear brake handle has a crack, so I'll be looking for a black and silver rear dia comp 182 to replace.  Frame still has sticky from stickers that were on it that I need to scrub off. Then hoping to find some repop decals to put on.  One odd thing is that on the fork threads, down inside the headtube, they aer stripped in one section.  Wont' interfere with them once installed, but can't figure out how you would strip them that far down on the threads.  I'll have to double check when putting together, may have been before the Gyro was added.

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … 1-10-2.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … o2-8-2.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … o3-8-3.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … C_0722.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … C_0721.jpg

Thats what I hated about the old school tech 7 levers (187)...>they always seemed to crack at the clamping area. No wonder they were replaced by the Tech 77 in the later years. As for the fork threads, could have been from a loose headset> local bike shop might have the die to clean up the threads.

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#39 2011-11-13 11:12am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

I tried soaking the headset parts in water and barkeepers friend, but I only did it for about an hour and then pulled them out and scrubbed with a damp cloth.  Came pretty clean from just that. I did take the bearing set and put in gas and got all the gunk off and then reapplied some bearing grease after rinsing.   I went over the bars and the forks once with barkeepers and a wet rag as well.  Most all the rust came off. I still need to do the bars and forks again since i was in a hurry and didn't get in the tight spots.  The Frame is practically done as good as i could get it in the rear drop outs. I also got all the sticky residue from old stickers that were on the bike and taken off years ago and just collected dirt. 
Now if I could only find the decals for the black frame.

I still need to clean up the rims.  I wiped off the side walls on the front and its decent chrome.
and i need to double check the threads on the forks as they are eat up in the middle. But didnt seem to affect it when I rode it around before taking it all apart. I think the stipped area is below the threaded nut.

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/DSC_0730-1.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/DSC_0731-1.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/DSC_0732.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/DSC_0733-1.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/photo1-10-3.jpg

The seat has a nice crack in the middle rear.  http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/DSC_0733.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/DSC_0730.jpg


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#40 2011-11-13 11:16am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Yeah I stuck the seat on the redline cause I needed a bike to ride.  But I'll probably try and pick up a tricktop for the general.


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#41 2011-11-13 11:29am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

What a coincidence , I have a crack in my lower rear............Hey man someone PIF a white w/black trick top style seat-looked a bit rough , check it
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=368542


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#42 2011-11-13 6:43pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

dts123 wrote:

I tried soaking the headset parts in water and barkeepers friend, but I only did it for about an hour and then pulled them out and scrubbed with a damp cloth.  Came pretty clean from just that. I did take the bearing set and put in gas and got all the gunk off and then reapplied some bearing grease after rinsing.   I went over the bars and the forks once with barkeepers and a wet rag as well.  Most all the rust came off. I still need to do the bars and forks again since i was in a hurry and didn't get in the tight spots.  The Frame is practically done as good as i could get it in the rear drop outs. I also got all the sticky residue from old stickers that were on the bike and taken off years ago and just collected dirt. 
Now if I could only find the decals for the black frame.

I still need to clean up the rims.  I wiped off the side walls on the front and its decent chrome.
and i need to double check the threads on the forks as they are eat up in the middle. But didnt seem to affect it when I rode it around before taking it all apart. I think the stipped area is below the threaded nut.

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … 0730-1.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … 0731-1.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … C_0732.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … 0733-1.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … 1-10-3.jpg

The seat has a nice crack in the middle rear.  http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … C_0733.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g43 … C_0730.jpg

Ya should be able to have that fork cleaned up .. seen worse

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#43 2011-11-23 8:44pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

I worked on the handlebars some more, still have to get in the tight spots with a toothbrush or something.  Rims are ok. they have some pitting but they shine nice too.
i can't wait to finish cleaning this up.


http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g438/yahtoo123/General/photo1-11-2.jpg


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#44 2011-11-24 9:09am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

This is looking SO good! Can't wait to see it finished up!


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#45 2011-11-25 6:24am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

i bet your friend who owned this bike might want it back .....lol

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#46 2011-11-25 6:55am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Yeah he asked for firs dib if I ever decide to sell.  I told him if I could restore it and didn find anything wrong it would be much much more than I paid for it.

A question though. What's the best way with out taking them off or replacing them to clean up the spokes?


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#47 2011-11-25 7:22am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

Looking good!

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#48 2011-11-26 9:08am

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

dts123 wrote:

Yeah he asked for firs dib if I ever decide to sell.  I told him if I could restore it and didn find anything wrong it would be much much more than I paid for it.

A question though. What's the best way with out taking them off or replacing them to clean up the spokes?

Take them off and replace them...  tongue  Seriously, trying to clean rust off the spokes without removing them would be a hell of a lot more work than just replacing them would.


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#49 2011-11-28 1:35pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

I hadn't looked at the frame in a few days and noticed yesterday that rust pits started showing back up already. So I went over the frame again with NevrDull and then put a coat of wax on after.  Any suggestions as to what will help keep it lasting longer so I dont have to treat the rust every few weeks?  I dont want to clearcoat it but I guess that is an option.


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#50 2011-11-28 1:45pm

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Re: 1988 or 1987? General RL Osborn Pro - BLACK

I read somewhere that after cleaning, to blowdry or even wd 40 toi keep moisture away,its the moisture that will make them re-oxidize quickly


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