crash test dumby wrote:

But the geometry is kinda lazy and the description on WTPs website refers to it as something for riding to the party storestar so that pretty much put it off my list.  Great parts  for the dollar though.

Yeah, that's a peeve of mine also--when BMX companies present their big bikes as just "corner store/bar bikes." 
In the MTB-DJ world (that I got involved in around 2006), companies are focused on high performance with big wheels.  It's weird to me when BMX companies offer some big street/park/trails bikes, but no one on their team actually rides them and does video parts on them.

Which brings me to my next point:  my impression is that for the Atlas, WTP copied the geometry of the Liquid Feedback.  And the Liquid Feedback was designed and built for riders by riders for serious trails riding.  The Liquid's 14.25" cs was way ahead of what other bmx companies were doing with 24"s; the medium-high bb was specifically chosen; the front end was given extra room; the 74 head angle is intended for stability at speed.  I find it reminiscent of some of the OG bmx trails bikes. Companies like Deluxe also went with 74 for their trails frame.   http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/f61/li … re-265639/

So, basically, I understand where you're coming from as far as quick handling street/park bikes. But the geo of the WTP is trails trails trails. Not bar cruiser!  (And I would argue it's great for street too, with the ultra-short back end).
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Last edited by cmc (2014-04-28 8:11am)

I posted these in the Sunday thread but it applies here as well. My "remixed" Model C

Before the new parts (way too busy):

crash test dumby wrote:

Oh and the "medium-high" bottom bracket you refer to is an inch lower than Sunday, half lower than Subrosa, quarter inch lower than S&M.  Not really sure how that classifies as medium, let alone high?  Maybe compared to race bikes?

Yeah, maybe that's not the right way to say it, but, yes, compared to race bikes--or, really, all 24"s that were out at that time.  (Because there were quite a few "freestyle" 24's before the Model C, that also had zero-ish-rise bb, like Giant/Mosh, FIT CR24, Mirraco Icon Twenty40, 2009 WTP Avenue, DK General Lee 24, Haro Backtrail/125, etc. etc.) 

Last edited by cmc (2014-04-28 9:10am)

Finally reunited with my beloved DB.....Bike had the indignity of living in a box while I waited over 6 months for a fork and to replace all the parts I stole off it to build my Subrosa.   Returned it to it's ideal form...a stripped down trail bike.  After spending 6 months on the Subrosa, then taking this out for a rip last night, I can honestly say that this is my fave bike of all time.  Thanks to Stoner71, 77Rider, Shad@Goods BMX, BMX Bro, for helping me getting it going again.

zedhed wrote:

Finally reunited with my beloved DB.....Bike had the indignity of living in a box while I waited over 6 months for a fork and to replace all the parts I stole off it to build my Subrosa.   Returned it to it's ideal form...a stripped down trail bike.  After spending 6 months on the Subrosa, then taking this out for a rip last night, I can honestly say that this is my fave bike of all time.  Thanks to Stoner71, 77Rider, Shad@Goods BMX, BMX Bro, for helping me getting it going again.
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Hell yeah boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thx guys,,,,one quick word of warning....just laid 'er down but good in a high speed manual on pavement, in traffic.... i got totally used to clear pads on chrome rims.....not one of those evolved  "no brake bros" yet ....i think i'll be poaching some pads tomorrow.

2014 Stolen Saint XLT 24"

Here's my buddy's  Stolen Saint.