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How to add white behind a home made decal

#1 2011-06-17 8:18pm

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How to add white behind a home made decal

Printing your own decals at home has limitations.  The biggest one to work around is not being able to print the color white.  Without white behind a color [on clear vinyl], it will blend with the background.  If you want white on top of your frame color, well, you're just plain out of luck.

Here are two ways to deal with it and both work fairly well.  The first is to paint the sticky side of the decal everywhere you want white.  The second is to carefully place white paper where you want to see white.

In this first example I just need my lettering to be white.  I'm experimenting with acrylic paint and will try others on future projects.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_01.jpg

I peeled the backing then repositioned it as a handle for holding the decal steady.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_02.jpg

The first layer looked very thin and I could see right through lots of places when I held it up to a light.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_03.jpg

A second layer looked just about right.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_04.jpg

I let it dry for 5-10 minutes then applied it to the frame.  Although you can see pink in my pictures, it really doesn't show in natural light.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_05.jpg

The next decal needed a white background with very straight edges.  I simply cut a piece of paper in the exact shape I wanted.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_06.jpg

Same drill, peel the backing.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_07.jpg

Carefully position the paper then set it down.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_08.jpg

More paint for the little lettering.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_09.jpg

Not bad for home grown...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_10.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_11.jpg

Lastly, I wanted to mention this florescent pink.  I've seen a lot of threads asking about the GT RAL code for florescent pink powder.  This Montana Gold Gleaming Pink spray paint comes pretty close.  This is also the primer I used.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_12.jpg

So, if you try adding a white background to your decals and experiment with other paints, share your success here.

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#2 2011-06-17 9:04pm

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

I will be keeping a close eye on this one. I just need to upgrade to a better printer.

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#3 2011-06-18 6:13am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

I did a little more experimenting this morning and found what I think will be the final solution.  I picked up this paint pen at Archivers and it works awesome!  It covers well and dries fast.  Have a piece of paper off to the side to press the tip into and get the paint flowing.  Once you have a nice little pool on the paper just dab it onto the decal.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_13.jpg

Candle it to some light and see where you're missing coverage.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_14.jpg

Final touch ups...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_15.jpg

Installed.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_16.jpg

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#4 2011-06-18 9:04am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

You can also apply your decal over a piece of plain white sticker material where you want the white. That's how I turned my clear backed Redline decals into white ones for my mild steal Redline forks.


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#5 2011-06-18 9:07am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

KenC wrote:

You can also apply your decal over a piece of plain white sticker material where you want the white. That's how I turned my clear backed Redline decals into white ones for my mild steal Redline forks.

That is a great idea.  That would also make the white part sticky too.  I didn't really like that the entire rectangle under the word GENERAL wasn't sticky.  Thanks for sharing!

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#6 2011-06-18 9:08am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

NICE work Kelly, did you take before pics of it?

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#7 2011-06-18 9:23am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

came out pretty nice. montana makes some sick colors and sharpie makes those paint markers too.

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#8 2011-06-18 9:26am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

8788dyno wrote:

NICE work Kelly, did you take before pics of it?

Of course... wink

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/General_Sidekick_01.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l258/GHS_Wired/BMX_Museum_2011/white_backed_decals_11.jpg

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#9 2011-06-18 10:13am

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dam homie that came out pretty nice. dont let lou see you lol

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#10 2011-06-18 10:19am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

These are great. I anticipate a new project with these new found tips incorporated?

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#11 2011-06-18 11:20am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

Very cool Kelly, I was going to suggest the paint pen and then there you had it. What's nice with them is they come in quite a few colors too. Gold and silver even. Great for touching up paint chips too. I have a black one I used on my car. Fixed it right up. smile

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#12 2011-06-18 10:24pm

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

Great ideas here. Allows decals to be printed on clear vinyl instead of white and having to X-acto around the edges perfectly. Also nice spray work on the pink / white blend there as well.

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#13 2011-06-19 9:52am

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Re: How to add white behind a home made decal

Just got this as a PM and figured I'd post the answer for all...

I never thought about using a home printer to print on clear vinyl. What type if printer did you use? Is there a specific type of printer used for this? What brand of vinyl did you use? How is the quality of the prints? Thanks for sharing.

These two links answer all the questions above.  Good luck and have fun! smile

How to Create and Apply Waterslide Decals
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=174238

How to print stickers using your inkjet printer
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=1584978

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#14 2011-06-19 10:21am

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Marking this. Been thinking of playing around with a few ideas on decals.


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#15 2011-06-19 10:25am

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Good info and thanks for the tips smilecool


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#16 2012-05-04 11:15am

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Thanks Kelly, I will try this on my decals.

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#17 2012-05-04 2:37pm

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That's cool this topic came up. I got a free set of error prints and the white didn't show up in a few spots. I was thinking of trying white-out if I use them.

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#18 2012-05-04 6:24pm

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#19 2012-07-14 5:22pm

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Dude who sells montana gold? I've checked everyone from autozone to o'reilly's,napa, Home Depot,Lowes,true valuse, Ace. I must havethat paint lol Kelly can you help me?


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#20 2012-07-14 5:34pm

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awesome job.   any new pics


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#21 2012-07-14 6:49pm

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Spankylips wrote:

Dude who sells montana gold? I've checked everyone from autozone to o'reilly's,napa, Home Depot,Lowes,true valuse, Ace. I must havethat paint lol Kelly can you help me?

If you have any high end art stores, they probably carry it.  You can also order it here: http://www.dickblick.com.

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#22 2012-07-14 7:26pm

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Hey Kelly check this stuff out. I may experiment with it too.

http://www.seymourpaint.com/fluorescent … paint.html


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#23 2012-07-14 7:29pm

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on the scooter did you clear coat it? or did you use white gloss paint over the primer?


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#24 2012-07-14 8:44pm

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Wow, that's some expensive spray paint.  On the scooter, I primed the whole thing white, painted it white gloss, added the pink then cleared it all.

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#25 2012-07-14 9:04pm

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wired wrote:

Wow, that's some expensive spray paint.  On the scooter, I primed the whole thing white, painted it white gloss, added the pink then cleared it all.

Very true. but if it it what they say it is, then it is still much cheaper than the other options.....


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