TrulyOdD wrote:

i know i shouldn't...but i see it happen too many times.   

total newbie move.....  somebody finds a great bike or part and before they learn and understand things they put new decals on it or 'bling it out' and polish it and think it's cool.   

just because a part or frame is scratched, rusted out or faded it doesn't need to be polished or re-painted/chromed.  that ruins it.    for arguments sake...i know there are exceptions to this but for the most part it's always better to leave things in the ORIGINAL condition (decals and finish) no matter how messed up it looks.   

ask the collectors of the high end, rare, big dollar stuff....they'll tell you. 
 

there's all kinds of info on here about cleaning stuff up too.   ask, people around here will help.

Every time I read one of these posts, it makes mer want to DESTROY an old school bike, just for spite.

It really amazed me that that there is supposedly "one" way to show / ride / display a bike.

It's cool you know what you want from your stuff, but to expect others to hold your standard is flipping arrogant.

well im no noob to bmx, but i do what i feel like becuse at the end its my bike

just like this nos black anodized tuf neck stem I'm stripping it tomorrow and painting it white. in less one of you guys that supposedly preserve history can trade me for a used one lmk? but i need to know by tonight or its getting stripped

ROB213 wrote:

well im no noob to bmx, but i do what i feel like becuse at the end its my bike

just like this nos black anodized tuf neck stem I'm stripping it tomorrow and painting it white. in less one of you guys that supposedly preserve history can trade me for a used one lmk? but i need to know by tonight or its getting stripped
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you're going to fit right in here!

I know exactly what you mean though, you really are trying to help. I've seen avid collectors offer replacement frames in better condition in order to protect a survivor. It's always better to get a few opinions first, hell, someone might offer you a nos frame with no decals for your survivor, I'd buy that for a dollar.

Dyno-Mike wrote:

where's oldskoolPK when you need him...he loves restoring bikes and over polishing stuff, its tough to watch but he loves what he loves

HUH???   You ok over there Mike.....

I think the lack Yuengling is messing with your head!!!! 

ROB213 wrote:

well im no noob to bmx, but i do what i feel like becuse at the end its my bike

just like this nos black anodized tuf neck stem I'm stripping it tomorrow and painting it white. in less one of you guys that supposedly preserve history can trade me for a used one lmk? but i need to know by tonight or its getting stripped
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss22 … 02/074.jpg http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss22 … 02/070.jpg

right after you paint it white....make sure you put the 'appropriate' reproduction sticker on it too......

Last edited by OLDSKOOLPK (2010-11-09 2:28pm)

OLDSKOOLPK wrote:

Dyno-Mike wrote:

where's oldskoolPK when you need him...he loves restoring bikes and over polishing stuff, its tough to watch but he loves what he loves

HUH???   You ok over there Mike.....

I think the lack Yuengling is messing with your head!!!! 

just bustin' your shnuts buddy

P.S. im down to my last yuengling   ROADTRIP!

RusT808 wrote:

Stop the drama!  The McRib is back!

ok going to micky d! sorry!

vintage chromoly wrote:

there are only so many examples of the bikes we collect. every day more are lost to overzealous "collectors" who think that you need to polish all the detail off your parts and lay a nice thick coat of powder on anything that will take it.

very sad part of the hobby in my opinion!

if you pay attention to whats going on with collectible items across the board whether it's guns, militaria, stamps, coins, ball cards, art, furniture, automobiles, motorcycles, toys etc..... original finish items always, always, always trump refinished items! this is not my opinion but a cold hard fact! bmx collecting is in its infancy and with the number of new collectors growing daily we are losing mass quantities of original items at an alarming rate. couple that with all the phony reproduction junk that is flooding the market and this hobby will be ruined in the next five years.

we need to start looking at ownership of these items as a stewardship that comes with a responsibility to keep the items preserved for future reference.

i know it's your bike and if you want to dick it up by blinging it out that is your right but please consider what patrick is trying to say.

don't take the purists standpoint as personal insult to your right to do as you please but consider it as an option as the supply of the bikes we desire and remember fondly from childhood is rapidly disappearing.

anyone here watch pawnstars or antique roadshow? when items are brought in that have been "restored" the response from the experts is always the same. nobody wants high end items that have been molested!

Thats so not true (most of the time) you could certainly point out a few items that are better left unrestored, but the overwhelming majority of items are worth more restored.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RESTORATION, NOT CLEANING.

Restoring an old rusted, not running car or bike. Not cleaning an old gun or antique.

To prove my point just check ebay. Look at an unrestored car VS a restored car.

How come we never see beat up items at the high end auctions? Cars,bikes,furniture etc?

markmc97225 wrote:

I think the actual warning here is being missed. If you're NEW to the hobby, don't jump to paint and powder and new decals first thing. Too many guys have offered up their regrets on doing that. It takes time in the hobby to get to the point of understanding how rare true OG/Survivor bikes are, and many guys have regrets about that first step.

Once you're in for a while, you'll find a matching bike that truly deserves paint/powder/decals, so, dig into it then.

The point is not to bring up the "it's my bike, I'll do what I want" argument, it's sage advice to please wait until you're experienced enough to know it's the right thing to do with YOUR bike.

some need to read again as they missed the concept.  I was a newb once and was on the restore train too-but NEVER did.  This sin't about the era correct parts.

brutus143 wrote:

vintage chromoly wrote:

there are only so many examples of the bikes we collect. every day more are lost to overzealous "collectors" who think that you need to polish all the detail off your parts and lay a nice thick coat of powder on anything that will take it.

very sad part of the hobby in my opinion!

if you pay attention to whats going on with collectible items across the board whether it's guns, militaria, stamps, coins, ball cards, art, furniture, automobiles, motorcycles, toys etc..... original finish items always, always, always trump refinished items! this is not my opinion but a cold hard fact! bmx collecting is in its infancy and with the number of new collectors growing daily we are losing mass quantities of original items at an alarming rate. couple that with all the phony reproduction junk that is flooding the market and this hobby will be ruined in the next five years.

we need to start looking at ownership of these items as a stewardship that comes with a responsibility to keep the items preserved for future reference.

i know it's your bike and if you want to dick it up by blinging it out that is your right but please consider what patrick is trying to say.

don't take the purists standpoint as personal insult to your right to do as you please but consider it as an option as the supply of the bikes we desire and remember fondly from childhood is rapidly disappearing.

anyone here watch pawnstars or antique roadshow? when items are brought in that have been "restored" the response from the experts is always the same. nobody wants high end items that have been molested!

Thats so not true (most of the time) you could certainly point out a few items that are better left unrestored, but the overwhelming majority of items are worth more restored.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RESTORATION, NOT CLEANING.

Restoring an old rusted, not running car or bike. Not cleaning an old gun or antique.

To prove my point just check ebay. Look at an unrestored car VS a restored car.

How come we never see beat up items at the high end auctions? Cars,bikes,furniture etc?

Don't compare bikes to cars-apples and oranges.  There are so many factors that make that comparison a moot point.  mnat that get redone do not fall into the rusted up category.

Last edited by JS-44SDS (2010-11-09 2:52pm)

anyone here watch pawnstars or antique roadshow? when items are brought in that have been "restored" the response from the experts is always the same. nobody wants high end items that have been molested!

i watch it and they take items to be restored all the time! and they do it so it will fetch more cash!

Last edited by oldschuulbmxer (2010-11-09 2:56pm)