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#51 2010-10-21 5:58pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

Lets not forget the Firemans!  26"  lol

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#52 2010-10-21 5:58pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

I have a few looptails around........I like them.  smile


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#53 2010-10-21 5:59pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

deano2670 wrote:

Can't believe nobody mentions DB yet.

Some a-hole on post #23 mentioned DB's.


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#54 2010-10-21 6:01pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

cmb wrote:

deano2670 wrote:

Can't believe nobody mentions DB yet.

Some a-hole on post #23 mentioned DB's.

lollollol


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#55 2010-10-21 6:06pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

Honestly I'm not a big Hutch Fan.  Nice Bikes but from My Experience Most of the guys who rode them grew UP to ride BMW motorcycles...


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#56 2010-10-21 6:06pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

So is this just a "show pictures of your looptail" thread now?


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#57 2010-10-21 6:08pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

Visual reference Owl. wink


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#58 2010-10-21 6:09pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

LOOPTAILS FOREVER!!!!


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#59 2010-10-21 6:10pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

deano2670 wrote:

Visual reference Owl. wink

Im pretty sure we all know what a looptail looks like....


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#60 2010-10-21 6:11pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

I am the owl... wrote:

So is this just a "show pictures of your looptail" thread now?

lol  felt I needed to post for 1966bmx

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#61 2010-10-21 6:14pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

I am the owl... wrote:

deano2670 wrote:

Visual reference Owl. wink

Im pretty sure we all know what a looptail looks like....

You'd think, but...


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#62 2010-10-21 6:14pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

Well it was only a matter of time before someone said "pics or it didn't happen". tongue


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#63 2010-10-21 6:22pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

I am the owl... wrote:

So is this just a "show pictures of your looptail" thread now?

I actually think there are several subtopics going on in this thread.


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#64 2010-10-21 6:39pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

pstrong wrote:

I am the owl... wrote:

So is this just a "show pictures of your looptail" thread now?

lol  felt I needed to post for 1966bmx

lollollollol


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#65 2010-10-21 7:04pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

retrodude70 wrote:

psychoduddycycles wrote:

nintendoninja wrote:

its only aesthetics, by design they are weaker than a regular double diamond frame, the outer radius gets thinner to make the loop...
"....

There are plenty of full radius looptails out there..

I wasn't  aware that you could bend metal without changing the inner and outer dimensions/thickness. When bending sheet metal into a 90, the outer edge grows by 1.5, so how is it possible to bend tubing without changing it in some way?

you mis-read my response my man. Full radius refers to keepin the outer wall of the tubing the same while bending around the "full radius" of the die. Not sure where wall thickness came in there....

As an aside here there are plenty of non mandrel looptails out there too.


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#66 2010-10-22 9:00am

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

Anyone notice WARLOCK (thread starter) hasn't chimed back in on his own question!?!?!?! LMAO....

Did you get the info and opinions you were looking for??? tongue


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#67 2010-10-22 9:13am

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

I prefer looptail over non looptail any day..... just a visual preference and like said before they scream old school.

Favorite Looptails I have owned....

84 DB Viper
Mongoose Californian

Currently have a 1995 Mongoose Menace cool looptail.. but I hate the Canti Mounts and center pull brakes.

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#68 2010-10-22 9:42am

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

I am the owl... wrote:

From Nov.88 BMXPlus Robinson test (as Robinson dropped the looptail from their frames):

"Gone however is the looped-at-the-dropouts tail section which has graced Robinson bikes since 1977. Its successor is a straight chainstay and seatstay that bends down at the beginning of the dropout, but doesnt connect to the chainstay. What this does is basically give you the same looks as before, but eliminates the hassle of bending the rear end 90 degrees. It also makes the design stronger because the tubing isnt stretched as radically as before, and straighter, because a looped rear end causes a dreaded disease known known to frame builders, as deflection, which is caused from severely bent rear loops trying to regain their shape. And best of all (for the weight conscious people anyway) is that the whole thing reduces frame weight by four ounces."

So, not only are loops weaker, they weigh quite a bit more.

Interesting. So, why is the 87 Robi Pro 4lb but the 90 Pro is 4lb 4oz?

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#69 2010-10-22 12:47pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

1966bmx wrote:

gashuffy63 wrote:

Nothing really new under the sun, old school bike guys dig them as well.

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#70 2010-10-22 12:52pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

47razor wrote:

Thought they looked pretty stupid as a kid, but now they are probably some of my favorite frames.

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#71 2010-10-22 12:54pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

1966bmx wrote:

"  looptail=hutch so its a junk."




sorry dude they were doing looptails in the 70s . WAY before f-ing hutch was around .

it is purely an aesthetic issue loops look bad azz

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#72 2010-10-22 12:55pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

imo2 these looptails http://forums.kipin.net/images/smilies/icon_boots.gif

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#73 2010-10-22 12:55pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

circletails*

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#74 2010-10-22 1:23pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

The reason looptails were fazed out had everything to do with cost of production, nothing to do with strength. Much more labor intensive to bend one single piece of tubing into a rear triangle than use 4 or eight separate pieces.

Back in my own very old days of BMX in late 70's, early 80's, we were launching off real motorcyle jumps and huge construction site dirt piles at speeds and heights that were absolutely insane looking back on it today.
Made thousands of concrete drops off loading docks, stairwells, parking garage roofs....never had any, heard of any, or saw any looptail frame fail at the rear dropouts in all the years of beating on looptails. I believe every bike I owned back then was a looptail. Takara, Panda, 'Goose, Diamondback... The first non-looptail I owned was an SE Hauler in about '85.

Busted just about every part on a bike at one time or another, but never had a frame issue with the looptail.

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#75 2010-10-22 1:33pm

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Re: explain the looptail thing to me.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say looptails aren't as strong...a true triangle seems to me like it would be much stronger than the loop since a triangle is the strongest geometric shape. But, i don't think it matters all that much in this application unless you were riding hardcore street or something on a looptail. I grew up with Mongoose being the primary looptail bike so i associate them with Mongoose. It's funny that my favorite 'goose (Decade Pro) wasn't even a looptail.

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