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Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

#1 2010-09-19 9:59am

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#2 2010-09-19 7:24pm

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

thanks for the invite. Mine have a skewer so they dont have any threads to knock the axle out with.. but i see what you mean.
Phil has to retro fit these for bmx use. spacing is 100 120 right now..... this should be a phil wood sticky because your the first one to crack the hub open and post how to do it.  Peace. wink
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#3 2010-09-19 7:49pm

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#4 2010-09-19 7:53pm

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

esw wrote:

I'll almost guarantee it's the same. Clamp the collar in a vise and use a punch, larger than the skewer opening and tap. I'll bet it's identical to the threaded axle otherwise. You'll still need an axle conversion so it's probably best to just ship in and have them do it.

The front hub you can simply tap both bearing all the way through one side. The stainles shell is ramped to allow it to be pushed through in one direction on one piece believe it or not.

The shell is 100% Stainless, no coating or chrome plating BTW.

I agree.
this hub is chrome see the pitting.
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#5 2010-09-19 8:53pm

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#6 2010-09-19 10:36pm

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So if I get this right I could sand the brushed looking finish onto my old thrashed set to make them look new again?


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#7 2010-09-20 7:13am

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#8 2010-09-20 10:33am

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

Someone here was selling the logos as a clear decal smile


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#9 2010-09-20 3:15pm

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AZBADMAN wrote:

Someone here was selling the logos as a clear decal smile

They also made rub on repops but they are tooo big as I had them.


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#10 2010-09-20 3:17pm

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esw wrote:

Mine was pitted too but there was no chrome, only polish. I asked the folks at phil and they said they never produced a chrome hub.

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Yup Stainless will rust depending on what grade they used.  I think 304 SS will not but 409 SS will Rust as seen here.  This is terrific work BTW-the logo is gonna be tuff to redo correctly as they were screened on I think.


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#11 2010-09-20 7:34pm

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#12 2011-02-26 8:49am

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Having a Phil rubber stamp made to use with red enamel paint would be the easiest imo.

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#13 2011-02-26 12:03pm

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sure is a nice simple design


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#14 2011-02-26 12:04pm

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#15 2011-06-23 8:28pm

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#16 2011-10-10 4:46pm

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

This is a very helpful information on how to disassemble a first Gen Phil Wood hub.

Is the reassemble process in the reverse, or are special tools needed.   I saw a bearing press tool use to install bearings.

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#17 2011-10-10 4:51pm

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#18 2011-10-10 4:58pm

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

Anybody know of a brand of replacment bearing for the first GEN. Phil Wood hubs that are smoother.  I have a NOS set of Phil Wood hubs and they do not spin smoothly at all.  The seals cause lots of drag.  I removed the outer seals and noticed an improvement in smoothness.  Going Ceramic is too expensive.

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#19 2011-10-11 5:49am

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I just replaced my worn bearings and axles on my Bullseye hubs today, here is a detailed step by step instructions for anyone who needs it. http://evilism.wordpress.com/2011/10/11 … seye-hubs/
but to press the bearings in I made a jig like this
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#20 2011-10-11 10:48am

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#21 2012-01-07 7:06am

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

Great thread. I just got some First Gen Phil Woods (thanks Rob) that I also want to convert to BMX. It sounds like sending them to Phil Wood is the best option. Or do they sell the parts to do the mod. Has anyone here ordered these parts from them to do the mod?


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#22 2012-02-19 9:31pm

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

Great thread.  I have very good repop decals for Phil Wood first gen hubs.  Contact me if you need any.


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#23 2012-02-20 8:42am

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

also many times the bearings do NOT need replacing-just need to be serviced.  Just take a brand new razor blade and gently pry up the dust cover on the bearing-being careful not to bend it.  It has a metal support in it.  Gently pry a little then move and pry a little more.  Once you get it off get yourself a tooth brush and some Odorless mineral spirits and scrub the bearings clean of dry grease, move the bearings and repeat until clean.  Then repack with grease of your choice...they will work as new.  I had a Phil hub that I could not turn by hand-Now good as new...no hasles of bearing removal. all OG bearings and covers, and about 20 minutes of work.  Just be careful. smile

Also works with any sealed bearing of course. wink


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#24 2012-04-16 2:58pm

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

I just got a crusty Phil hub with a set of rims recently.

I want to clean the rust up and get it looking good.

The bearings actually spin like "butter".

I was going to soak the hub in CAP to remover the rust.

I was trying ti figure out how to get the bearings out and I'm not understanding the first step of this tutorial.

Does it matter which collar I put in the vise?

Which collar does the bolt go in? the one in the vise or the one sticking up on the other end?

Is it supposed to push out somehow?

If someone could please "splain" it to me this hub would appreciate it. lol

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#25 2012-04-16 5:14pm

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Re: Phil Wood 1st Generation hubs - refinish, replace bearing

To remove a bearing, I take a piece of PVC pipe, larger in diameter than the bearing, carefully cut the PVC square.  Put the PVC up against the hub end, and put a larger washer (larger than the PVC) over the PVC and stick an axle bolt down the piece of pipe into the axle.  As you tighten the bolt, it will pull the shaft out of the bearing/collar on the opposite end.  Then another similar combination to pull the bearing out of the other ends.  And on, and on.  No clamping, no banging.

I have a whole series of PVC pipes of different diameters, cut to different lengths, with labels that I use as tools.


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