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#51 2010-06-29 6:33am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

williwoods wrote:

Why not just post the actual measurements of hubs and rims......instead of posting combos and length needed......there are too many possible combos.

So if you make a spreadsheet of hub measurements and rim dimensions, you can use one of the many free calculators online to get the length of spokes needed for your particular combo and cross lacing you intend to use.

eventually we could get most popular rims and hubs documented for OS bmx and not ever need to guess again. I think this is easier than trying to list out every possible combo.

That would have been easy IF they were measured b4 being laced.  Some maybe hard to measure after being laced-but I do agree with you.

This is especially the case with ERD-can't be measured with the wheel being laced as I have read.


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#52 2010-06-29 6:40am

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cool Awesome post ill measure up my 36 hole acs z-rim to Suzie low flange hub in the morning and post it in here . It came out a beauty after my post for help


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#53 2010-06-29 6:54am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

I recently built up a couple sets of Z-Rims with the following hubs:

36 hole z rim to front gen 1 Phil Wood hub, 4x pattern  = 194mm
36 hole z rim to Suntour coaster brake, 4x pattern  = 194mm

36 hole z rim to Suntour Low flange sealed bearing huds, 4x pattern  = 193mm

Using the spoke calculators that are on the web are much easier than you think. Finding the rim ERD is a bit more tricky.
Z-rims have and ERD of 392

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#54 2010-06-29 7:45am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

JS-44SDS wrote:

Profile HF Gyrolite II's
Ukai Speedlines
X4
194 mm or 7 5/8 if you prefer.

Thanks for your contribution Scott; the original post above has been edited!

JS-44SDS wrote:

williwoods wrote:

Why not just post the actual measurements of hubs and rims......instead of posting combos and length needed......there are too many possible combos.

So if you make a spreadsheet of hub measurements and rim dimensions, you can use one of the many free calculators online to get the length of spokes needed for your particular combo and cross lacing you intend to use.

eventually we could get most popular rims and hubs documented for OS bmx and not ever need to guess again. I think this is easier than trying to list out every possible combo.

That would have been easy IF they were measured b4 being laced.  Some maybe hard to measure after being laced-but I do agree with you.

This is especially the case with ERD-can't be measured with the wheel being laced as I have read.

I also agree Williwoods; however, the issue is that often many members do not know how to properly measure the hubs or rims. If they make an error with this, there is the potential for several individuals to purchase the wrong spoke length. The objective with this post was to simplify the entire process by just sharing known spoke lengths. Although it may take longer, with the contributions of many members, this post could achieve what you're describing over time. If you look at the first post with the listing of spoke/rim/hub combos, you will start to see a pattern developing. It looks like Ukai Speedlines will take the same 194mm spoke length with either GT Superlace hubs or Profile HF Gyrolite II hubs and the same x4 lace pattern. Another combo using the same spoke length is the Z rims and Suntour HF hub. Eventually, with enough data from other members, we can interchange hubs and rims with a given spoke length with complete confidence.

That being said, if you do know the measurements of hubs and ERD of specific rims, please do share that info here, as I feel this would still be the most appropriate thread for it.

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#55 2010-07-07 5:31pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

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#56 2010-07-17 3:47am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Low flange 36h PMC hubs to Araya RB-17's anyone?


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#57 2010-07-31 8:25am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Can any of you 26" Cruiser guys help me? I need to order spokes for my cruiser wheels. What length spokes for this combo!

Araya 26" 7X Rims
Shimano Large Flange Hubs


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#58 2010-07-31 8:26am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

BCRider wrote:

Can any of you 26" Cruiser guys help me? I need to order spokes for my cruiser wheels. What length spokes for this combo!

Araya 26" 7X Rims
Shimano Large Flange Hubs

I forgot to state for 4X


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#59 2010-07-31 4:11pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Seems like most 36 spoke wheels use 7 5/8" ( 194mm) spokes

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#60 2010-08-07 12:44pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

I have built many 20" BMX wheels with different hubs and rims combinations. The only time I couldn't use the 194mm spokes was when I laced up an Araya Aero Rims. They needed to be shorter for sure.

Still have not heard from anyone who laced up 26" Cruiser Wheels 4X. Can anyone help me???


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#61 2010-11-16 1:34pm

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#62 2010-11-16 6:57pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

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Man, the irony, I was just looking for this post and you bump it today.


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#63 2010-11-17 6:41pm

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Very helpful... Thanks

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#64 2010-11-23 3:05pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Anyone know what size a Suntour coaster hub laced to a 7x needs?

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#65 2010-11-24 9:23am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

vt102 wrote:

Anyone know what size a Suntour coaster hub laced to a 7x needs?

do you have a pick of the hub? If it's like the GT Coaster brake hub, it should be the same length spokes...


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#66 2010-11-24 12:42pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

quinonesm wrote:

vt102 wrote:

Anyone know what size a Suntour coaster hub laced to a 7x needs?

do you have a pick of the hub? If it's like the GT Coaster brake hub, it should be the same length spokes...

Here is a picture of the hub. Not the actuall one though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/ex_r_accord/bmx%20pics/Shimano-shimano-heavy-duty-36-hole-coaster-brake-hub-cb-e110-IMG21825.jpg

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#67 2010-11-25 4:35am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Low flange PMC hubs laced to Araya super 7X with a 4 cross= 194mm


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#68 2010-11-25 10:09pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Anybody know the spoke length I need for these low flange sealed bearing 36 hole Suntour hubs to go with my Araya 7X 20" rims?  Want to do 3 cross pattern.

HUBS
http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/8983

RIMS
http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/4710

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#69 2010-11-26 9:31am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

I had to relace a friend's wheel. He gave me a large flange hub and 185mm spokes. First I thought the spokes were the regular 194mm or 7 5/8" length so I was lacing them using 4x. There was no way it was going to work because the spokes were way too short. Laced them 3x with no problem.


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#70 2010-11-27 12:02am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Nachoman3 wrote:

Anybody know the spoke length I need for these low flange sealed bearing 36 hole Suntour hubs to go with my Araya 7X 20" rims?  Want to do 3 cross pattern.

HUBS
http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/8983

RIMS
http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/4710

194-4x pattern


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#71 2010-11-30 8:47am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

vt102 wrote:

quinonesm wrote:

vt102 wrote:

Anyone know what size a Suntour coaster hub laced to a 7x needs?

do you have a pick of the hub? If it's like the GT Coaster brake hub, it should be the same length spokes...

Here is a picture of the hub. Not the actuall one though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/ … G21825.jpg

sorry, I wanted to see if it looked like the same size as my GT coaster brake hub, but it's very hard to tell from the photos and I really wouldn't feel confident using it as a reference. Hopefully someone else with experience with that hub will chime in for you!


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#72 2010-11-30 12:13pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

hey quinonesm, got your thread stickied.. 

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#73 2010-11-30 12:35pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Z. wrote:

hey quinonesm, got your thread stickied.. 

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Thanks Z...I'm hoping it proves valuable to some other members!


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#74 2010-11-30 7:02pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Question .... dont rear wheels need a different length then front ??? I noticed that the flanges are closer together on the rear then on the front hubs.

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#75 2010-11-30 8:19pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Mr. q,  you might want to update your list and you can have this one long list of all kinds of info. 


maybe have it categorized like this

Zrims


z rims 20" - bullseye - ___ mm
z rims 20" - sealed suzues _____ mm
z rims 20" - Phils - ______mm
z rims 20" - high flange non sealed sunshines _____ mm
.
.


Arayas

arayas 20x1.75 - bullseye - ___ mm
arayas 20x1.75  - sealed suzues _____ mm
arayas 20x1.75 - Phils - ______mm
arayas 20x1.75  - high flange non sealed sunshines _____ mm


Arayas

arayas 24x1.75 - bullseye - ___ mm
arayas 24x1.75  - sealed suzues _____ mm
arayas 24x1.75 - Phils - ______mm
arayas 24x1.75  - high flange non sealed sunshines _____ mm


you get the idea. 


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