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#26 2010-04-04 9:26pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

This combo should be quite common .....

(old-school) ACS high flange hubs with ACS Z-RIMS

3X lace pattern .....
Front = ?
Rear = ?

Any help guys ??  hmm

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#27 2010-04-05 5:57pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Not sure about standard measurement but I just built a set of high flange Normandy to Z's and it took 182mm spokes that were almost too short. I would try 184s


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#28 2010-04-05 6:51pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

United Bicycle Institute, this is the site I used for years

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#29 2010-04-05 6:51pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Araya Super 7X to Profile SS hubs and 3X pattern.
Dan's Comp sent 184mm and they were perfect.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll269/GSK_70/Azusa6.jpg?t=1270518676


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#30 2010-04-05 7:16pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

GaryK wrote:

Araya Super 7X to Profile SS hubs and 3X pattern.
Dan's Comp sent 184mm and they were perfect.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll26 … 1270518676

Thanks for contributing Gary! That's exactly what we need so keep it coming guys.


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#31 2010-04-07 6:44pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Anyone lace one of these up and knows the spoke length to lace up to Ukai hoops?

GT Superlace Coaster brake hub:
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr230/quinonesm9/798db689.jpg


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#32 2010-04-12 10:14am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Great thread Marcus! - Super helpful.
That GT Coaster hub is crazy!

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Anyone know what size spokes to use for Sunshine Sealed hubs - going to Araya 7x's?
They're not quite high Flange, and they're slightly taller than most Low Flange hubs - definitely bigger than bullseyes.

http://verydesign.net/bmx/sunshine_hubs_black.jpg


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#33 2010-04-12 10:33am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

This site has a bunch of info on rims and hub measurements 
http://wheelbuilder.freebiketools.org/


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#34 2010-04-12 3:02pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

I like this thread! Post your hoop/hub/spoke-length combo! big_smile

Peregrine HP-48 Hoop, Peregrine Sealed High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 182mm
Peregrine Speedline 48 Hoop, Peregrine Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 184mm
ACS Z-48 Hoop, Peregrine Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x tall nipples, 182mm
Ukai Speedline 48 Hoop, Redline (Peregrine) Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 184mm


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#35 2010-04-12 4:36pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

anyone have Bullseyes to araya 7x in a 24"

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#36 2010-04-12 4:46pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

shelloil23 wrote:

anyone have Bullseyes to araya 7x in a 24"

You had me until 24"


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#37 2010-04-12 4:53pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

To figure out spoke lengths for any rim/hub combo google wheelsmith and you should be able to find a link where you can get all the info you need. I worked in shops for years in so-cal and we had a wheelsmith calculator and it had the directions on how to take all the proper measurements and input them and come up with the proper spoke lenght. It sounds kinda involved but it was really kinda easy:P

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#38 2010-04-13 8:22am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

2dr_sedan wrote:

I like this thread! Post your hoop/hub/spoke-length combo! big_smile

Peregrine HP-48 Hoop, Peregrine Sealed High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 182mm
Peregrine Speedline 48 Hoop, Peregrine Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 184mm
ACS Z-48 Hoop, Peregrine Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x tall nipples, 182mm
Ukai Speedline 48 Hoop, Redline (Peregrine) Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 184mm

Thank you! That's exactly the kind of info we need. Not knocking the other contributions that point us to a link at another site (for measurements), but the idea of this post is to provide proven spoke length combination's that we can list right here. We're trying to save someone else the trouble of taking the measurements (in possibly the wrong manner) and wasting money (on the wrong length of spoke) and time in finding out the hard way. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread thus far! Please, let's keep it going.


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#39 2010-04-13 8:50am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

quinonesm wrote:

2dr_sedan wrote:

I like this thread! Post your hoop/hub/spoke-length combo! big_smile

Peregrine HP-48 Hoop, Peregrine Sealed High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 182mm
Peregrine Speedline 48 Hoop, Peregrine Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 184mm
ACS Z-48 Hoop, Peregrine Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x tall nipples, 182mm
Ukai Speedline 48 Hoop, Redline (Peregrine) Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 184mm

Thank you! That's exactly the kind of info we need. Not knocking the other contributions that point us to a link at another site (for measurements), but the idea of this post is to provide proven spoke length combination's that we can list right here. We're trying to save someone else the trouble of taking the measurements (in possibly the wrong manner) and wasting money (on the wrong length of spoke) and time in finding out the hard way. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread thus far! Please, let's keep it going.

Marcus , you should add Mike's detailed list to the very 1st post on the thread - along with your combos, for easy reference. smile
And as the answers keep rolling in - keep them all listed in the beginning.

Great thread!
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#40 2010-04-13 10:26am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

chromey wrote:

quinonesm wrote:

2dr_sedan wrote:

I like this thread! Post your hoop/hub/spoke-length combo! big_smile

Peregrine HP-48 Hoop, Peregrine Sealed High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 182mm
Peregrine Speedline 48 Hoop, Peregrine Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 184mm
ACS Z-48 Hoop, Peregrine Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x tall nipples, 182mm
Ukai Speedline 48 Hoop, Redline (Peregrine) Loose-ball High Flange Hubs, 4x, tall nipples, 184mm

Thank you! That's exactly the kind of info we need. Not knocking the other contributions that point us to a link at another site (for measurements), but the idea of this post is to provide proven spoke length combination's that we can list right here. We're trying to save someone else the trouble of taking the measurements (in possibly the wrong manner) and wasting money (on the wrong length of spoke) and time in finding out the hard way. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread thus far! Please, let's keep it going.

Marcus , you should add Mike's detailed list to the very 1st post on the thread - along with your combos, for easy reference. smile
And as the answers keep rolling in - keep them all listed in the beginning.

Great thread!
smile

Good idea Matt! Original post has been edited and I will continue to do so as more data is provided.

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#41 2010-04-13 11:05am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Why isn`t this post being made into a "sticky"? If not, all this valuable info will soon be buried.

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#42 2010-04-28 5:43pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

ttt!


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#43 2010-04-28 5:56pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Profile Race hubs (the older big body style)
and
24"  36 hole Sun Rhyno Lites
3 cross  =  235mm


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#44 2010-04-28 8:36pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

G. wrote:

Profile Race hubs (the older big body style)
and
24"  36 hole Sun Rhyno Lites
3 cross  =  235mm

Thanks G!


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#45 2010-06-28 5:35am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

After seeing so much material (NEEDED!) on wheel building - and seeing videos of a dude lacing/truing a wheel in 15mins, I thought I had it fine when coming to do my first lace job. Critical moment when I find that I figured one calculation wrong and ended up with spokes 2mm too long. I am doing 48s 4 cross with 187mm and even though I'll more than likely have this sorted before it gets replied to - it'd be good to know if you could simply build the wheel 5x and pull the spokes in a couple of mm by doing so. Makes sense in theory, but after checking hours of google combinations, i'm stuck. If someone can't help me they might just save another from the same guesswork I have just been through. BTW: Wheel building is fun!! I found this link useful when needing an easy no confusing guide also. http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/airtight/bmx/tech_tips/index.shtml


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#46 2010-06-28 6:58am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

As a guide:

small/low flange hubs = 194mm spokes, 4X
big/large flange hubs = 184mm spokes, 4X

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#47 2010-06-28 8:00am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Just came across this and think it can be built into a very helpful reference.

For all those with suggestions for existing databases, I have not used any of them but I do thing a database that was specific to OUR interest would be MUCH more helpful.

Keep this one alive.

Son-lites to 26" ACS Z-Rims???? wink


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#48 2010-06-28 8:02am

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

NeRDBMX wrote:

Just came across this and think it can be built into a very helpful reference.

For all those with suggestions for existing databases, I have not used any of them but I do think a database that is specific to OUR interest would be MUCH more helpful.

Keep this one alive.

Son-lites to 26" ACS Z-Rims???? wink


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#49 2010-06-28 5:13pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Profile HF Gyrolite II's
Ukai Speedlines
X4
194 mm or 7 5/8 if you prefer.


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#50 2010-06-28 5:38pm

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Re: Spoke Length Database For Wheel Builders!

Why not just post the actual measurements of hubs and rims......instead of posting combos and length needed......there are too many possible combos.

So if you make a spreadsheet of hub measurements and rim dimensions, you can use one of the many free calculators online to get the length of spokes needed for your particular combo and cross lacing you intend to use.

eventually we could get most popular rims and hubs documented for OS bmx and not ever need to guess again. I think this is easier than trying to list out every possible combo.

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