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#51 2009-12-24 8:15pm

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Re: Thinking about restoration, but what kind of bike is this?

was just looking at the pic of my z50r...and thinking about the Haro Freestyler decals...and thought of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCyvvyhGKtM

Freestyle z50's!

I promise, that's the last of the z50 stuff...back to the Haro Master at hand...

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#52 2009-12-24 8:43pm

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Remember when you put it back together to use some Anti seize compound on it.

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#53 2009-12-24 9:32pm

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DUDE...OA BATH IN A $5 RECTANGULAR TUB FROM THE DEPOT. WHITE POWDERCOAT IS ABOUT $80 LOCALLY. NOT WORTH THE RECHROME COST TO DO THE DUAL FINISH...NOT IF YOU'RE SELLING IT. IF YOU KEEP IT, RECHROME, POWDER, DECALS. THATS A GOOD START. DO IT, I REGRET SELLING MY '85 WITH ALL NOS PARTS ,NOT THE F/F...CAR REPAIRS PROMPTED MY MISTAKE..


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#54 2009-12-24 9:54pm

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I'm a big fan of oxalic acid for rust removal, and have had lots of success and no problems with it.  You can pick it up at Ace hardware all day.  As far as the refinishing goes, the best painter in the hobby is in Orlando and has lots of experience with very high dollar bikes.  I can't even count how many Haro Masters I've seen in his garage.  Probably a good bet he has the code for those levers too.

Now get to work, get that thing together and come join us on the St. Pete ride!


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#55 2009-12-25 6:16am

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gaijin wrote:

I'm a big fan of oxalic acid for rust removal, and have had lots of success and no problems with it.  You can pick it up at Ace hardware all day.  As far as the refinishing goes, the best painter in the hobby is in Orlando and has lots of experience with very high dollar bikes.  I can't even count how many Haro Masters I've seen in his garage.  Probably a good bet he has the code for those levers too.

Now get to work, get that thing together and come join us on the St. Pete ride!

Sweet, Ace Hardware is right around the corner...will go first thing tomorrow.

Can you PM me his info, I'd like to call him and see what prices are, etc. and what he offers...it's all original or nothing.

When is the ride, I'd love to go - I can't tell you how many miles I put on this bike when I was a kid riding around town...it would be fun riding it around again.

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#56 2009-12-25 6:55am

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Okay, so I'm getting all of the parts removed and taken apart completely...got a few questions.

1. There is rust on the metal parts of the seat an pedals - is it okay to put plastic in an OA bath and if not, what's the best method to use to get it off parts with plastic?

2. The sprocket and upper part of the stem are aluminum - is it safe to put aluminum parts in OA?

3. The levers and perches have gunk and the old paint on them - anybody know the best way to clean them up quickly and safely?

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ahaughn/HPIM3492-1.jpg

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#57 2009-12-25 6:59am

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Found the 1986 Haro catalog for anyone who's interested: http://www.ajkbikes.com/downloads/catal … atalog.pdf

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#58 2009-12-27 6:45am

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pointer wrote:

gaijin wrote:

I'm a big fan of oxalic acid for rust removal, and have had lots of success and no problems with it.  You can pick it up at Ace hardware all day.  As far as the refinishing goes, the best painter in the hobby is in Orlando and has lots of experience with very high dollar bikes.  I can't even count how many Haro Masters I've seen in his garage.  Probably a good bet he has the code for those levers too.

Now get to work, get that thing together and come join us on the St. Pete ride!

Sweet, Ace Hardware is right around the corner...will go first thing tomorrow.

Can you PM me his info, I'd like to call him and see what prices are, etc. and what he offers...it's all original or nothing.

When is the ride, I'd love to go - I can't tell you how many miles I put on this bike when I was a kid riding around town...it would be fun riding it around again.

His name is Lou on the museum.  It's way easier to get ahold of him via PM or email.  He lives in the dark ages and doesn't have a cell phone.

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=98836 big_smile


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#59 2009-12-27 6:52am

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pointer wrote:

Okay, so I'm getting all of the parts removed and taken apart completely...got a few questions.

1. There is rust on the metal parts of the seat an pedals - is it okay to put plastic in an OA bath and if not, what's the best method to use to get it off parts with plastic?

2. The sprocket and upper part of the stem are aluminum - is it safe to put aluminum parts in OA?

3. The levers and perches have gunk and the old paint on them - anybody know the best way to clean them up quickly and safely?

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ … 3492-1.jpg

1.) I've never put plastic in OA, but since I use OA in a plastic tub, I'd have to say it's probably OK.

2.) Aluminum is NOT OK to put in OA.  OA will eat the aluminum.

3.) Send them to Lou along with the frame, fork, bars and post. He'll throw them in the glass beader before he paints them white...


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#60 2009-12-27 8:01am

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gaijin wrote:

I'm a big fan of oxalic acid for rust removal, and have had lots of success and no problems with it.  You can pick it up at Ace hardware all day.  As far as the refinishing goes, the best painter in the hobby is in Orlando and has lots of experience with very high dollar bikes.  I can't even count how many Haro Masters I've seen in his garage.  Probably a good bet he has the code for those levers too.

Now get to work, get that thing together and come join us on the St. Pete ride!

+1 Lou is the man.


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#61 2009-12-27 8:26am

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Re: Thinking about restoration, but what kind of bike is this?

What is the best way to remove decals that are not correct to the frame without harming the paint benith them? I have a '95 GT Interceptor that someone put '94 decals on. I havn't decided fully on it but just want to know how to do it because I run into this all the time. I have heard a heat gun but i have had bad expiriance with bubbling paint.

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#62 2009-12-27 9:04am

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outskirtscustoms wrote:

What is the best way to remove decals that are not correct to the frame without harming the paint benith them? I have a '95 GT Interceptor that someone put '94 decals on. I havn't decided fully on it but just want to know how to do it because I run into this all the time. I have heard a heat gun but i have had bad expiriance with bubbling paint.

If its the one im thinkin of in this other post, it already has the correct 95 decals on it.
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=186369


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#63 2009-12-27 9:08am

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Ok I was looking at them backwards. Thanks. I also have a few other bikes with decals though what's the best way to remove them without harming paint?

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#64 2009-12-27 10:23am

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outskirtscustoms wrote:

Ok I was looking at them backwards. Thanks. I also have a few other bikes with decals though what's the best way to remove them without harming paint?

I know it helps to use heat from like a hair dryer or something and some goo gone.


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#65 2009-12-27 10:26am

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Thanks man.

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#66 2010-01-06 7:57am

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How do I remove the back seals for the crank without damaging them?  I've tapped them with the ends of a few blunt objects, but they don't seem to budge and I don't want to hit them too hard.  I had a guy at a bike shop remove the crank for me, but he didn't seem to want to mess with the black seals.  Once I get them off I'm going to soak the frame in some CAP.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ahaughn/HPIM3525.jpg

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#67 2010-01-06 8:11am

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How do I remove the back seals for the crank without damaging them?  I've tapped them with the ends of a few blunt objects, but they don't seem to budge and I don't want to hit them too hard.  I had a guy at a bike shop remove the crank for me, but he didn't seem to want to mess with the black seals.  Once I get them off I'm going to soak the frame in some CAP.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ … IM3525.jpg

Those black cups are in fact separate aluminum pieces, so they will come out.
You just need to find something to tap them out with that won't damage them.

I would use something with the largest diameter I could find and tap them out from the inside.
Maybe use a the flat end of a large (modern) axle peg. - and a hammer.

Tap around the entire diameter of the cup from the inside. before you start really whacking on it.

Remember to use something flat. they are pretty soft aluminum - so anything with a pronounced shape will damage them more.

But they were meant to come out.
And you can't OA bathe the frame with them in there.

Also. - those model cups are very tough to find - so you need them if you want to use the same bearings for the cranks.
(if you DO mess them up - you can use a standard loose ball bearing kit with those cranks - they're normal 24tpi threads on that haro spindle)

Good luck. Be careful! smile

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#68 2010-01-06 8:40am

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pointer wrote:

How do I remove the back seals for the crank without damaging them?  I've tapped them with the ends of a few blunt objects, but they don't seem to budge and I don't want to hit them too hard.  I had a guy at a bike shop remove the crank for me, but he didn't seem to want to mess with the black seals.  Once I get them off I'm going to soak the frame in some CAP.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ … IM3525.jpg

the way I all ways removed them. was to use a long straight seat post with a handlebar grip on the end that go's in the frame/bearing.
then get a hammer and tap all around it a little at a time. the old grip with donut flange cut off will soften the blow and leve no sharp edge to damage/ chip the bearing race.


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#69 2010-01-06 9:48am

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Great advice!! I'd got with that!!+1


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#70 2010-01-06 10:24am

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outskirtscustoms wrote:

Not a bad find, kinda rough but if you're going to paint it, it'd be an easy resto. Having it re-chromed would be rather expensive unless you go for the spray-can walmart chrome and it would look worse than $hit. I'd paint it. As far as getting rust off of it I use drain opener. Works great and it's available at any dollor store fairly cheap. I have an old hot tub I got for free off of craigslist full of a 50/50 mix of dollor store drain opener and water. I just soak a frame overnight and it comes out looking a million times better.

DUDE! YOUVE GOT A HOT TUB FULL OF CAUSTIC SODA IN YOUR YARD??!!!
ever find a dead cat or bird in it? yikesyikes

nice one .... lollol   


but anyway i want to try the drain cleaner - something new to brew.


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#71 2010-01-06 10:27am

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Dude, I haven't even got to the last page yet but don't sell it!!!  Restore this bad boy!!!.  Heck, if you even restored the cranks it would be well worth it.  yikes  smile


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#72 2010-01-06 10:29am

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outskirtscustoms wrote:

Not a bad find, kinda rough but if you're going to paint it, it'd be an easy resto. Having it re-chromed would be rather expensive unless you go for the spray-can walmart chrome and it would look worse than $hit. I'd paint it. As far as getting rust off of it I use drain opener. Works great and it's available at any dollor store fairly cheap. I have an old hot tub I got for free off of craigslist full of a 50/50 mix of dollor store drain opener and water. I just soak a frame overnight and it comes out looking a million times better.

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#73 2010-01-06 10:38am

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badbill wrote:

outskirtscustoms wrote:

Not a bad find, kinda rough but if you're going to paint it, it'd be an easy resto. Having it re-chromed would be rather expensive unless you go for the spray-can walmart chrome and it would look worse than $hit. I'd paint it. As far as getting rust off of it I use drain opener. Works great and it's available at any dollor store fairly cheap. I have an old hot tub I got for free off of craigslist full of a 50/50 mix of dollor store drain opener and water. I just soak a frame overnight and it comes out looking a million times better.

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#74 2010-01-06 10:39am

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pointer wrote:

Okay, so I'm getting all of the parts removed and taken apart completely...got a few questions.

1. There is rust on the metal parts of the seat an pedals - is it okay to put plastic in an OA bath and if not, what's the best method to use to get it off parts with plastic?

2. The sprocket and upper part of the stem are aluminum - is it safe to put aluminum parts in OA?

3. The levers and perches have gunk and the old paint on them - anybody know the best way to clean them up quickly and safely?

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ … 3492-1.jpg

Seat rails can be cleaned - using:

1 microfiber rag and BRASSO or Tarnite cleaner.   Scrape the heavy rust lightly with another piece of metal (try not to scratch the chrome you just need to remove the build up) then take a cut down strip of microfiber soaked in the above cleaners and wrap it around the rail and go back and forth with some pressure.   

for the spocket - use BRASSO - but put a microfiber on a soft cushioned chair and rub the part back and forth on it - The brasso will shine the things blingy.  The Brasso has OA in it (i think) and is not meant for aluminum ( I think) but works very well in this manner.  I can take old Stem or disk and make them look awesome in a few minutes

- dude ..you got a great score! enjoy that restore ....cannot wait to see it done!!!


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#75 2010-01-07 11:18pm

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unfit4society wrote:

dude, no offense meant but drain cleaner sounds like a bad idea.

lol And soaking it in Piss sounds better? No one wants a bike that smells like some old drunken bum has been sleeping on it for years. lol


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