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Thinking about restoration, but what kind of bike is this?

#26 2009-12-24 3:31pm

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Re: Thinking about restoration, but what kind of bike is this?

For rust removal, you can use Oxalic Acid (Wood bleach/Deck cleaner) or Citric Acid Powder.

Do a search on "rust removal".

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#27 2009-12-24 3:37pm

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Kindness is like Manure does You No Good unless You spread It around
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#28 2009-12-24 4:13pm

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Drain cleaner has always worked well for me I mix it 50/50 to slow the process so you can watch it better. I have never had a problem. I use CHEAP dollor store brand drain opener because it's not as powerfull and not as harmful to the metal. and it's like $1-$2 a bottle. If you are unsure about it wet a rag with a little bit of it and test it on a small spot I guarentee you'll be impressed by the results. DO NOT USE IT ON ANNO'ed PARTS!!! IT WILL STRIP THE ANNO OFF!!!

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#29 2009-12-24 4:29pm

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As far as the drain cleaner goes YOU be the judge. My Dyno cruiser was almost as bad when I got it, I stripped it to the frame and dipped it overnight in my hot tub clean machine and here's what it looks like now:
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp266/outskirtscustoms/bikes/038.jpg

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#30 2009-12-24 4:30pm

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same goes for the Pacific behind it

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#31 2009-12-24 4:32pm

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tp-gonewild wrote:

Dude,
Dont sell it. If you got about $150 total to throw at it, it will be such a gem.

When does ANYONE here think you will run into a full OG complete master team model, short the bars and mags-spokes?

Dude, this bike is amazing, and you have no idea what you have. This thing in the condition it is in is not going to bring you any coin, but for someone like me who'd toss elbow grease at it, it could be......

Restore it, toss out $50-$75 for the bars and another $100 for decent mags. and maybe $25 for decals. Then it is jsut elbow grease and a paint job from there. This thing could fetch ya about a g note after labor and small investment.

You will be sorry if you sell it, I am sure of that.

Editing for the sweet anodized nippons. RARE AS HELL!!!! See the restoration section for tips on how to get the rust off for CHEAP! For those of us on a budget.

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#32 2009-12-24 4:32pm

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Also works well on small parts such as cranks (I did my redline cruiser's crank in the pic above), Handle bars, forks, anything really.

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#33 2009-12-24 4:43pm

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Not a bad find, kinda rough but if you're going to paint it, it'd be an easy resto. Having it re-chromed would be rather expensive unless you go for the spray-can walmart chrome and it would look worse than $hit. I'd paint it. As far as getting rust off of it I use drain opener. Works great and it's available at any dollor store fairly cheap. I have an old hot tub I got for free off of craigslist full of a 50/50 mix of dollor store drain opener and water. I just soak a frame overnight and it comes out looking a million times better.

DUDE! YOUVE GOT A HOT TUB FULL OF CAUSTIC SODA IN YOUR YARD??!!!
ever find a dead cat or bird in it? yikesyikes


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#34 2009-12-24 4:47pm

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Nice score!!
Clean it up first...As far as g note?? i have an 86 f/f and i cant get $350!!

good luck!!


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#35 2009-12-24 4:56pm

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keggerz wrote:

outskirtscustoms wrote:

Not a bad find, kinda rough but if you're going to paint it, it'd be an easy resto. Having it re-chromed would be rather expensive unless you go for the spray-can walmart chrome and it would look worse than $hit. I'd paint it. As far as getting rust off of it I use drain opener. Works great and it's available at any dollor store fairly cheap. I have an old hot tub I got for free off of craigslist full of a 50/50 mix of dollor store drain opener and water. I just soak a frame overnight and it comes out looking a million times better.

DUDE! YOUVE GOT A HOT TUB FULL OF CAUSTIC SODA IN YOUR YARD??!!!
ever find a dead cat or bird in it? yikesyikes

The drain cleaner I use is cheap hydrochloric acid, rust inhibitor, and water. i have a cover on the hot tub at all times so i have never had an animal get into it.

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#36 2009-12-24 4:56pm

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Thrusterdreamer wrote:

Nice score!!
Clean it up first...As far as g note?? i have an 86 f/f and i cant get $350!!

good luck!!

yours is frame and fork we are talking about a hole stock team model 86  near ready to ride for a G NOTE!wink


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#37 2009-12-24 4:59pm

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FRESSTYLE FREEK wrote:

Thrusterdreamer wrote:

Nice score!!
Clean it up first...As far as g note?? i have an 86 f/f and i cant get $350!!

good luck!!

yours is frame and fork we are talking about a hole stock team model 86  near ready to ride for a G NOTE!wink

i wish him all the luck!!! smile


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#38 2009-12-24 5:04pm

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I don't know about getting a G note for it. If it was a team CRUISER yes, but in this economy I would say a real life estimate if it were re-done nicely, you could look at a price range of $450-$600. If you had it professionally re-chromed maybe $700-$800 if you find the right collector.

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#39 2009-12-24 5:07pm

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Depending on the quality of restoration of corse.

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#40 2009-12-24 5:53pm

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Okay, I'm going to go for a restore...anybody know where to get the bars, stickers, seat post and mags?  and cables...I want to go all original.  I'll have to do this piece by piece as I'm on a tight budget.

My biggest problem is going to be the rust removal...but I do plan on painting it white like it was and keeping the back part chrome.  Maybe I'll have to re-plate just the back?  Not sure how chrome re-plating works.

Anybody know what color code the levers were?

Eager to get started I didn't have a problem buying some $1 drain opener.  Here's the stem nut after sitting 2-3 hours.

It might be hard to see, but it looks better...not perfect tho.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ahaughn/HPIM3491-1.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ahaughn/HPIM3474.jpg

I'm going to check out what others have done.  Thanks for the links.

Oh, and thanks to everyone for talking some sense in to me for wanting to part this thing out!

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#41 2009-12-24 5:57pm

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See told you it works. Normally it takes a while, soak and rub, then repeat till you get where you want. It's time consuming but every restoration is. And when you're on a budget you got plenty of time. And if you're going to show it off later your attention to detail pays off.

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#42 2009-12-24 5:59pm

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As far as mags go I know you can get re-pop Skyways from Dan's Comp. not sure on others.

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#43 2009-12-24 6:50pm

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I just read up on the CAP powder...will the drain cleaner leave any discoloration?

I read on the other post that CAP wouldn't do anything like that.  I may do the CAP given there is much more info and positive results from others...drain opener does work though.

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#44 2009-12-24 6:54pm

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I have never tried CAP but I havn't had any problems with using drain cleaner. I know that Muratic acid will discolor chrome but Cheap dollor store drain openers don't use it so you should be safe. Do a test spot first with a wet rag and a little elbow grease if you're not sure about it.

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#45 2009-12-24 6:56pm

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Re: Thinking about restoration, but what kind of bike is this?

pointer wrote:

I just read up on the CAP powder...will the drain cleaner leave any discoloration?

I read on the other post that CAP wouldn't do anything like that.  I may do the CAP given there is much more info and positive results from others...drain opener does work though.

if you leve it in drain cleaner to long it will turn chrome yellow. I used to use it but after it ruined one of my frames I stopped!


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#46 2009-12-24 7:13pm

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Okay, being that I'm new at this and don't want to experiment on this particular bike I'll probably wait and get some CAP...although this entire project is going to be an experiment as I've never refinished anything before.

I'm going for an all original restore...just like my 96' z50r is all original - bought it for $440 and it's a fun neighborhood cruiser.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h113/ahaughn/HPIM2590.jpg

Anyways, off to check prices on some Citric Acid Powder.  Not sure where I can find some around my area...Clearwater, FL - anyone have a guess?  I'll go buy it Saturday and get started asap.  Beats waiting for a shipment.

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#47 2009-12-24 7:31pm

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Will this crank puller tool work with this bike?  Is there any other method of removing the crank without buying the tool?

Go to ebay and search this item number: 300379918775

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#48 2009-12-24 8:02pm

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you can remove with some wd-40 a block of wood and a hammer but it's ALOT easier with the tool and you don't run the risk of bending anything.

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#49 2009-12-24 8:11pm

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outskirtscustoms wrote:

you can remove with some wd-40 a block of wood and a hammer but it's ALOT easier with the tool and you don't run the risk of bending anything.

I think I'll take it to a bike shop instead of buying a tool and I definitely don't want to bend anything.  I was tapping it with a hammer earlier, but nothing was budging so I didn't force it.

Do I need the tool to put it back on?

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#50 2009-12-24 8:12pm

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pointer wrote:

outskirtscustoms wrote:

you can remove with some wd-40 a block of wood and a hammer but it's ALOT easier with the tool and you don't run the risk of bending anything.

I think I'll take it to a bike shop instead of buying a tool and I definitely don't want to bend anything.  I was tapping it with a hammer earlier, but nothing was budging so I didn't force it.

Do I need the tool to put it back on?

No you dont


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