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Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

#1 2009-09-07 7:50pm

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Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

I'm curious to know if one is considered better than the other?  And by better I mean better quality, or possibly more rare.  Seems like the Pro Neck and Tuf Neck parts are very similar, although Pro Neck seems to fetch higher dollars.  But that could just be my perception.  Just curious.  I'm guessing I'm not the only one.

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#2 2009-09-07 7:52pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

One is not better than the other. They are essentially the same stem. There might be more Tuf Necks out there, but not enough to classify either as rare by any means.


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#3 2009-09-07 7:56pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

I really don't see a difference. The Pro Neck with the bulldog stamp seems to fetch a few more bucks though.


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#4 2009-09-07 8:02pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

That's kinda' what I thought.  Pro Neck seems to be an older company, or maybe it's just the stamping on their older parts was simpler.  Thx

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#5 2009-09-07 8:02pm

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the story is they were 2 brothers that started tuff neck  then they could not get along so the other brother started pro neck thats the story and I am sticking to it !!!! Really smile


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#6 2009-09-07 8:03pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

were they made by the same company?


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#7 2009-09-07 8:06pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

There was a spin off. Separate company.


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#8 2009-09-07 8:23pm

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Yes,they were at one time the same company,Pro Neck spun off very quickly.At first,the Pro Neck was Tuf Neck's high model.It had a chromo stem.When Pro Neck spun off,Tuf Neck made the Pro Model with chromo stem.And that's the difference between a Pro Neck and Tuf Neck:chromo stem.


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#9 2009-09-07 8:43pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

Kai wrote:

Yes,they were at one time the same company,Pro Neck spun off very quickly.At first,the Pro Neck was Tuf Neck's high model.It had a chromo stem.When Pro Neck spun off,Tuf Neck made the Pro Model with chromo stem.And that's the difference between a Pro Neck and Tuf Neck:chromo stem.

Really? lol I have a Pro neck with a Black oxide stem.....

But yeah at one time they were the same company..

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#10 2009-09-07 8:57pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

Are more 1st gen unstamped sq corners out there than the tiger head?  I thought the one's with the weird tiger-kitten were fewer?  And how come I never see any with that oval "TN" decal, was that just in the ad and never went out into production?

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#11 2009-09-07 9:02pm

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moral to the story: NEVER go into business with ANYONE in your family. yikeslol


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#12 2009-09-07 9:05pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

baron340 wrote:

Are more 1st gen unstamped sq corners out there than the bulldog stamp?  I thought the one's with the weird tiger-kitten were fewer?  And how come I never see any with that oval "TN" decal, was that just in the ad and never went out into production?

Here's a 1 1/8 on my 24" SE Quad

http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/Detroit-Dirt-Bikes/allpics08412.jpg


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#13 2009-09-07 10:09pm

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I love them.........

http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll466/pr200/TufNeck012.jpg
http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll466/pr200/TufNeck009.jpg
http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll466/pr200/TufNeck005.jpg


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#14 2009-09-08 4:06am

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

From December, 1980 BMXA:

"PRO-NECK AND TUF-NECK: AN IDENTITY CONFLICT

Two identical stems: the Pro-Neck and the Tuf-Neck Pro-Model. They both even use animals with studded collars in their logos. But they are manufactured by totally different companies.

Pretty confusing, hey?

This sidebar is a careful, hopefully objective, short history of how this came to be. Oversimplified, of course.

First there was Bakton Enterprises, the original designer and manufacturer of the original Tuf-Neck stem.

Then came a company called Superbyke which, in addition to its own products, purchased Tuf-Neck stems from Bakton Enterprises and marketed and distributed them. But Superbyke's management was not exactly clickin', and the company went down the tubes.

Whereupon one of the investors in Superbyke formed a new company and made arrangements with Bakton to purchase, market, and distribute Tuf-Neck stems. This new company was called Tuf-Neck, Inc.

Are you with us so far? This is where the plot thickens.

All this was cool until the defunct Superbyke company was purchased.

At this point the new owner began marketing and distributing an identical Tuf-Neck stem - not manufactured by Bakton - along with their other products.

This, of course, created a multitude of identity problems what with two companies advertising and distributing identical stems with identical names but manufactured by different companies.

So Tuf-Neck, Inc and Bakton Enterprises changed the design of their stem by radiusing the corners, and changed the name of the stem to Pro-Neck.

At this point the situation was thus: The Pro-Neck was distributed by Tuf-Neck, Inc., and the Tuf-Neck was distributed by Superbyke. Which wouldn't do at all. So Tuf-Neck, Inc. changed its name to Pro-Neck, Inc. and the identity conflict eased somewhat.

Until Superbyke came out with a newer version of the Tuf-Neck - with radiused corners, called the Pro-model Tuf-Neck.

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#15 2009-09-08 8:10am

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Cool.  That's the kinda stuff that I enjoy lernin about.

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#16 2009-09-08 8:34am

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oops! hadn't read keep_it_warm's post... well here's the SUPERBYKE ad anyway smile

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#17 2009-09-08 9:00am

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psychoduddycycles wrote:

Kai wrote:

Yes,they were at one time the same company,Pro Neck spun off very quickly.At first,the Pro Neck was Tuf Neck's high model.It had a chromo stem.When Pro Neck spun off,Tuf Neck made the Pro Model with chromo stem.And that's the difference between a Pro Neck and Tuf Neck:chromo stem.

Really? lol I have a Pro neck with a Black oxide stem.....

But yeah at one time they were the same company..

Yes,actually,the Tuf Neck 2000,Pro Model,and Pro Neck were all advertised as having chromo stems,the regular Tuf Neck was not.Thank you Keepitwarm for posting the details in print from bitd.I always knew there was some strangeness going on just from the adds,but had never heard the details.


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#18 2009-09-08 10:04am

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pro necks are better because the corners are round.
the corners on tuff necks are the debil !!!!!!!!!


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#19 2009-09-08 5:58pm

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I think the disagreement was over the National Pro BMX bike.

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#20 2009-09-08 6:27pm

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Very good thread because I'm looking to buy a stem for my Natty build smile.


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#21 2009-09-08 6:40pm

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Re: Pro Neck vs Tuf Neck...looking for an education

Id hate to be the one to say it and im probly starting up a fire storm BUT tuffneck is better then pro neck they make the best cranks necks seatcllamps around yes i said it.MYONE:D


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#22 2009-09-08 6:40pm

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lol


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#23 2010-04-18 7:35am

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myone wrote:

Id hate to be the one to say it and im probly starting up a fire storm BUT tuffneck is better then pro neck they make the best cranks necks seatcllamps around yes i said it.MYONE:D

ive never seen tuf neck cranks. do they have them?

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#24 2010-04-18 7:56am

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http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/unfitskip/tufneck.jpg
Tuf neck rules!

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#25 2010-04-18 7:58am

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The stems are basically the same with slight variations in size. The Bull Dog stamped Pro-Necks are definitely the hardest to find...and look pretty cool too. Heres mine off of my Torker Cruiser.
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/oratapss/torker26030.jpg

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