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#26 2008-12-26 7:14am

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munners wrote:

Dyno-Mike wrote:

munners wrote:

Taiwan '85 GT Performers that had 3 holes in rear drop outs had the serial G5...stamped under the BB too.

86 ones that had 4 hole rear drop outs also had the serial under the BB and all of the ones i had started DS....

I know the deal with US 84 pre stamped, US 84 stamped, US 85 stamped and Taiwan stamped 85's if anyone wants to know.smile

taiwan's didnt start until '86 and had the DS6 serial numbers...some '85s were made in Japan and yes do also have the 3 holes and would also sport the G5, but some '86s have the G5 serial as well and this is for discussion of '86 only

Sorry i did mean Japan not Taiwan. Your correct. smile

Just to make it a bit more interesting.... The ones you see with 4 holes in rear drops and the FS and serial number stamped in drop out were 'apparently' 84 framesets that were left over by the US fabricators and then re-issued in 86 with the insertion of the extra hole to make them look ike 86 framesets.

Not sure how true this is.hmm but it would make sense.
A member of a UK site had one of these and we didnt understand why he would have an 84 frameset with 4 holes in. When he showed us the pics of the bike before the resto it was a clearly a 86 spec bike.

Thats incorrect. You can tell the differences in an 84-86. Different standing platforms and the serial tells the build date.
All 84's had 3 holes or none. They started putting 3 or 4 in 85.

84/early 85
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh245/djd93306/1985%20GT%20Pro%20Performer%20White%20Frameset/P1010026.jpg

Gen 2 85-86
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh245/djd93306/1986%20GT%20PFT%20Pink/P1010018.jpg

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#27 2008-12-26 7:25am

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Re: - OFFICIAL: 1986 GT Performer Thread -

Phil Wood wrote:

jayoldmanbmx wrote:

also my questions about 86 performers  between the year  did they have a different head tube angle   or did they stay the same degree

My 86 World Tour has the very steep head tube angle while my 86 PFT does not.  I posted pics earlier in the thread.  I will try to take better pics later.  I am curious what determined the head tube angle too.

I think headtube angles are random as well. GT was trying different things out all the while making available all kinds off specs(measurements/angle degrees)for people.

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#28 2008-12-26 8:19am

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lets get little deeper with the info here...to those of you who have an '86 with two cable guides on the fork, what is the serial #? i have a set of forks but want to match it up to a somewhat correct frame since it came mix matched with a different frame

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#29 2008-12-26 9:11am

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djd93306 wrote:

Phil Wood wrote:

jayoldmanbmx wrote:

also my questions about 86 performers  between the year  did they have a different head tube angle   or did they stay the same degree

My 86 World Tour has the very steep head tube angle while my 86 PFT does not.  I posted pics earlier in the thread.  I will try to take better pics later.  I am curious what determined the head tube angle too.

Head tube angles are random as well. As everyone knows GT was trying different things out all the while making available all kinds off specs(measurements/angle degrees)for people.

I was afraid of that.  I guess there are very few solid answers for most of these questions.

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#30 2008-12-26 9:16am

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im pretty sure the G5/6 are the only ones with the "raked" out headtube angles...i have an F6 thats more straight and matches the USA build i have and the DS ones i have

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#31 2008-12-26 9:17am

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Dyno-Mike wrote:

lets get little deeper with the info here...to those of you who have an '86 with two cable guides on the fork, what is the serial #? i have a set of forks but want to match it up to a somewhat correct frame since it came mix matched with a different frame

The only forks I have with 2 guides are on the blue World Tour.  It's not a survivor, it was already refinished when I got it.  I don't know if the forks are original  to the frame or not so it may not be much help. Serial#F6058538

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#32 2008-12-26 9:33am

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djd93306 wrote:

munners wrote:

Dyno-Mike wrote:


taiwan's didnt start until '86 and had the DS6 serial numbers...some '85s were made in Japan and yes do also have the 3 holes and would also sport the G5, but some '86s have the G5 serial as well and this is for discussion of '86 only

Sorry i did mean Japan not Taiwan. Your correct. smile

Just to make it a bit more interesting.... The ones you see with 4 holes in rear drops and the FS and serial number stamped in drop out were 'apparently' 84 framesets that were left over by the US fabricators and then re-issued in 86 with the insertion of the extra hole to make them look ike 86 framesets.

Not sure how true this is.hmm but it would make sense.
A member of a UK site had one of these and we didnt understand why he would have an 84 frameset with 4 holes in. When he showed us the pics of the bike before the resto it was a clearly a 86 spec bike.

Thats incorrect. You can tell the differences in an 84-86. Different standing platforms and the serial tells the build date.
All 84's had 3 holes or none. They started putting 3 or 4 in 85.

84/early 85
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh24 … 010026.jpg

Gen 2 85-86
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh24 … 010018.jpg

I know about the standing platform height but my friends had the platform of an 84 but with 4 holes and serial number in rear drop and the FS stamped too.

Unfortunately its all guess work. In the UK we go mad for US 84's.

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#33 2008-12-26 9:37am

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Here is another shot of the different head tube angles.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/barnett1975/bikeparts066.jpg

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#34 2008-12-26 9:49am

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Re: - OFFICIAL: 1986 GT Performer Thread -

Dyno-Mike wrote:

lets get little deeper with the info here...to those of you who have an '86 with two cable guides on the fork, what is the serial #? i have a set of forks but want to match it up to a somewhat correct frame since it came mix matched with a different frame

My purple WT f/f has an 85 stamp on the forks and one cable guide. G5 serial posted on page one.


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#35 2008-12-26 1:01pm

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Chrome Pro performer
serial# 6860841
4130 stamp and FS stamp
4 hole drop......

my 86 PP is a 6860841, FS with four hole triangle drops, Chrome with 4130 stamp..... I also have an early 84, early 85 and a mid 85...there was for sure a head tube angle change for the 86 and the forks have no rake from 85 on...I ve seen that one mag picture with an unstamped 84 with four hole rear drops in the same pattern as the forks...???

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#36 2008-12-26 1:18pm

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I had an 86 World Tour before, and the serial number was G6B, I'm almost sure the forks had 2 guides.

I've also had one of those weird 84 leftover FS frames.

I'm waiting on a G5J frameset and I'll let you know what kind of forks it has.
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#37 2008-12-27 7:43am

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Blue Pro Performer (original paint/decals)
Serial: G5L04023 (December 85)
4130 Stamp: YES
Holes on dropout: 3
1 cabel guide on left fork leg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/skinnygmg/philly/philly006Small.jpg


Blue ? Performer (original paint/ repop downtube decal)
Serial:F6029577
4130 Stamp: YES
Holes on dropout: 4
i think this had 2 fork cable guides, but i can't be sure because i no longer own it, or have a good pic of the forks


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/skinnygmg/1986%20Performer/09052008211Medium.jpg


Green Performer (original paint/decals)
Serial:DS60706158
4130 Stamp: NO
Holes on dropout: 4
1 cabel guide on right fork leg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/skinnygmg/1986%20Performer/86gt_01.jpg

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#38 2008-12-27 8:16am

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Re: - OFFICIAL: 1986 GT Performer Thread -

munners wrote:

djd93306 wrote:

munners wrote:

Sorry i did mean Japan not Taiwan. Your correct. smile

Just to make it a bit more interesting.... The ones you see with 4 holes in rear drops and the FS and serial number stamped in drop out were 'apparently' 84 framesets that were left over by the US fabricators and then re-issued in 86 with the insertion of the extra hole to make them look ike 86 framesets.

Not sure how true this is.hmm but it would make sense.
A member of a UK site had one of these and we didnt understand why he would have an 84 frameset with 4 holes in. When he showed us the pics of the bike before the resto it was a clearly a 86 spec bike.

Thats incorrect. You can tell the differences in an 84-86. Different standing platforms and the serial tells the build date.
All 84's had 3 holes or none. They started putting 3 or 4 in 85.

84/early 85
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh24 … 010026.jpg

Gen 2 85-86
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh24 … 010018.jpg

I know about the standing platform height but my friends had the platform of an 84 but with 4 holes and serial number in rear drop and the FS stamped too.

Unfortunately its all guess work. In the UK we go mad for US 84's.

I hadnt seen any 84's with 4 holes but I guess there are some. Looks like the holes are random all of those years.

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#39 2008-12-28 1:43am

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djd93306 wrote:

munners wrote:

djd93306 wrote:


Thats incorrect. You can tell the differences in an 84-86. Different standing platforms and the serial tells the build date.
All 84's had 3 holes or none. They started putting 3 or 4 in 85.

84/early 85
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh24 … 010026.jpg

Gen 2 85-86
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh24 … 010018.jpg

I know about the standing platform height but my friends had the platform of an 84 but with 4 holes and serial number in rear drop and the FS stamped too.

Unfortunately its all guess work. In the UK we go mad for US 84's.

I hadnt seen any 84's with 3 holes but I guess there are some. Looks like the holes are random all of those years.

2 US 84 3 hole in rear drop outs

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s213/munners1975/GTPerformer004-1.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s213/munners1975/GTPerformer001-1.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s213/munners1975/gtperformerwhite006.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s213/munners1975/gtperformerwhite004.jpg

An 85 Jap made 3 hole drop out

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s213/munners1975/BMXPICSinthenewhouse055.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s213/munners1975/BMXPICSinthenewhouse054.jpg

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#40 2008-12-28 5:09am

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Yeah I meant to say I hadnt seen any with 4 holes. My 84 build has 3 holes too.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh245/djd93306/1984%20GT%20Pro%20Performer/P1010007.jpg

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#41 2008-12-28 5:13am

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Wow. I just noticed that '84 Dropouts are COMPLETELY different than '86.


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#42 2009-01-05 6:30pm

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Green Pro Performer (original paint/stickers)
4130 stamp: YES
4 holes on dropout
Serial #: F6023241

this is my brothers bike
http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/gt_bicycles/10000

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#43 2009-01-05 6:54pm

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86 pro performer.
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg139/sean77773/DSC04129.jpg
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg139/sean77773/DSC04134-1.jpg
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg139/sean77773/DSC04132.jpg
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#44 2009-01-05 6:55pm

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We have this debate every year on VBMX then I came up with this picture. August 84. Rich Avella riding a GT prototype/on off. 4 holes on a V shape dropout also the top tube is unstamped.
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL683/2961086/6371877/350029980.jpg

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#45 2009-01-06 12:42pm

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Thats the four hole on the right side dropout but three hole on the left,  unstamped gt...


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#46 2009-01-06 12:56pm

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I have a few friends in the UK that have pre stamped early 84 GT's. Think they are feb ones which were the first to ever be made for the public.

They came with Pro Forks like Fiola used, 3 hole rear drops and unstamped/pre-stamped Bologna cut top tube.

Rare as hens teeth.cool

Im finding that the majority of GT enthuisiasts on this site are interested from 86 onwards. Apparently we have alot of GT stock over here from 86-88 that no one is interested in.neutral

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#47 2009-01-06 1:54pm

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So far looks like all the D6 and F6 serials have four hole drops, the G6 frames still have have the three hole drops even with the 86 dropouts, japan frames used the three hole dropouts all years???... the USA frames have had both 3 and 4 so Im sure we could find a time line when they changed, around early 86....


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#48 2009-01-06 4:02pm

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munners wrote:

I have a few friends in the UK that have pre stamped early 84 GT's. Think they are feb ones which were the first to ever be made for the public.

They came with Pro Forks like Fiola used, 3 hole rear drops and unstamped/pre-stamped Bologna cut top tube.

Rare as hens teeth.cool

Im finding that the majority of GT enthuisiasts on this site are interested from 86 onwards. Apparently we have alot of GT stock over here from 86-88 that no one is interested in.neutral

Exactly so you should give it to me! big_smile

flbmx777 thats an 85 not an 86 by the way. wink

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#49 2009-01-07 1:22pm

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'86 chrome Performer survivor, F605xxxx sn on bb, 4 hole drops with 2 cable guides on forks Japanese made?
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee32/airmech520/21c_lg.jpg

'86 blue World Tour survivor f/f, 1285xxxx fs l/h drop, 4 hole drops with 2 cable guides on forks American made!
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee32/airmech520/DSC04354.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee32/airmech520/DSC04371.jpg

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#50 2009-01-14 8:23am

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Re: - OFFICIAL: 1986 GT Performer Thread -

Dyno-Mike wrote:

im pretty sure the G5/6 are the only ones with the "raked" out headtube angles...i have an F6 thats more straight and matches the USA build i have and the DS ones i have

My US made model has the rake. Serial 12851*** with the FS stamp
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh245/djd93306/1986%20GT%20World%20Tour/P397.jpg


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