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#1 2018-02-11 10:32am

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GT marble paint from the 90s

Dose anyone know how GT did the marble paint jobs in the 90s? I have not seen anyone be able to replicate this.

Considering they were doing it 20+ years ago i cant imagine its something that couldnt be done today?


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#2 2018-02-11 6:16pm

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

I have a guy that can do it in just about any color you want.


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#3 2018-02-12 7:31am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Cr500conversions wrote:

I have a guy that can do it in just about any color you want.

any pics?


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#4 2018-02-12 9:13am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Cr500conversions wrote:

I have a guy that can do it in just about any color you want.

Just so you know, this isn't the same as the cellophane on wet paint look. FYI.

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#5 2018-02-13 8:41am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

It looks very organic, and probably takes a fair amount of skill to apply. I wonder how many people were painting the same effects and how much variation there is between them? You can see some differences between these two bikes:
http://bmxmuseum.com/image/imag0141_blowup.jpg
http://bmxmuseum.com/image/p1010009_copy1_blowup.jpg

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#6 2018-02-13 8:46am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

I was hoping 20+ years later it would be a well known and easy thing to do....  hmm


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#7 2018-02-13 4:56pm

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Redline also did this on the 94 Prolines and the 94-95 440 Experts. It was even more intricate than on that GT.

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#8 2018-02-13 11:24pm

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

I think Redline used a similar application, but with metallic paint.
http://bmxmuseum.com/image/img_0209_copy9_blowup.jpg

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#9 2018-02-14 12:23am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

X


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#10 2018-02-14 3:43am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Hydro dipping or paint dipping.

Google, or go yo youtube and watch the videos.  You can do this yourself, just need a large enough tank.


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#11 2018-02-14 5:35am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Indyjps wrote:

Hydro dipping or paint dipping.

Google, or go yo youtube and watch the videos.  You can do this yourself, just need a large enough tank.

I don't remember there being a seam anywhere on the Performer.

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#12 2018-02-14 6:03am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

CKTA wrote:

Cr500conversions wrote:

I have a guy that can do it in just about any color you want.

Just so you know, this isn't the same as the cellophane on wet paint look. FYI.

No? Depending on the cover material will determine the finish of the marbling. From fine line tiger stripping to large herringbone patterns.


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#13 2018-02-14 8:21pm

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

4inCycle wrote:

Indyjps wrote:

Hydro dipping or paint dipping.

Google, or go yo youtube and watch the videos.  You can do this yourself, just need a large enough tank.

I don't remember there being a seam anywhere on the Performer.

Dont understand the seam.  You set up a water tank and float the paint and swirl it  Either submerge the frame first, or dip it.  Skim the paint off and pull it out. 
Theres more to it, so some practice runs may be best.

Places that do pattern dipping (camo, woodgrain etc) could do a swirl or stipple pattern easily.

Its a very cool process.  Im gonna mess with it soon,  think Ill try it in my mailbox big_smile

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#14 2018-02-15 12:47am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

How can a printed design wrap around an object without a visible seam where the beginning and end meet? They're not using paint swirls to do the effect. They have magic hands.

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#15 2018-02-15 3:46am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

2 process here.  1 uses a printed film.  The other uses paint floating on the water surface.

Heres some links to the paint float, done on guitars.  Check it out. 

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms … Fb_D4M83pI

To best match the original paint,  Im guessing a tank large enough to fully submerge the frame,  zig zag the paint (2 colors) on the water and pull the frame out in a diagonal, head tube first to have the paint lines going in one direction.  The guitar examples are going for max swirl and they twist as they go into the water.
Water temp is key to get the paint to float well,  you add borax to the water.   Some of the videos have instructions some dont.

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#16 2018-02-15 4:06am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Those frames are not hydrodipped....or wrapped. No thread Jacking!!! lol

Anyway, yeah, not cling-wrap on wet but a similar process...maybe with a sponge or whatever. Eggcrate foam, something like that..


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#17 2018-02-15 4:13am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Psychoduddycycles,

Watch the guitar videos,  its wet paint floated on the water surface.  This can work on frames with some set up and practice to learn the process.

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#18 2018-02-15 4:26am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Indyjps wrote:

Psychoduddycycles,

Watch the guitar videos,  its wet paint floated on the water surface.  This can work on frames with some set up and practice to learn the process.

My point is,,, that's not what GT did.


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#19 2018-02-15 4:48am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

I havent seen a good explanation on what GT process used for original paint.  Its more involved than "sponge or whatever"

A lot of people like this paint job, I think it can be closely replicated with some practice.  OG paint bikes will still hold their value and rarity.

Im throwing some ideas out.
Its a paint treatment Im interested in for other things and will eventually learn it.


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#20 2018-02-15 5:08am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

I get that part. Sure, it's herds interesting. Just not something that would have been plausible on those frames.


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#21 2018-02-15 8:14am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

psychoduddycycles wrote:

I get that part. Sure, it's herds interesting. Just not something that would have been plausible on those frames.

So your saying GT sponged thousands of frames?


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#22 2018-02-15 8:21am

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

DemonGT wrote:

psychoduddycycles wrote:

I get that part. Sure, it's herds interesting. Just not something that would have been plausible on those frames.

So your saying GT sponged thousands of frames?

No. What I'm sayin' is...it would be WAY too crazy to be doing an 8(or so?) stage finish on cheap ass frames. Especially when they never did it for 4130 frames. Makes no sense. Unless they did it SUPER cheap. Otherwise that just seems cost prohibitive.


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#23 2018-02-15 12:58pm

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

Since the previous years were more obviously splatter paints and the green 97 looks like air-blown paint, I think the 94 & 95 are most likely applied by hand. Anyone have a pic of the red 96?
http://www.alwaystinkering.com/content/images/2017/03/x20160521_172924.jpg.pagespeed.ic.HIMsEPtTu5.jpg

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#24 2018-02-15 1:01pm

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

I have 2 marble paint GT interceptors and I was wondering the very same thing about how they did this. The one thing I did notice was there was a base coat of black on the forks just below or near the race on I believe both of the interceptors.. the 2 bikes were different marbles.. well I guess 1 was marble and 1 is called galaxy fade. The black could have been primer but it looked more like paint then primer


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#25 2018-02-15 1:01pm

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Re: GT marble paint from the 90s

I have 2 marble paint GT interceptors and I was wondering the very same thing about how they did this. The one thing I did notice was there was a base coat of black on the forks just below or near the race on I believe both of the interceptors.. the 2 bikes were different marbles.. well I guess 1 was marble and 1 is called galaxy fade. The black could have been primer but it looked more like paint then primer


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