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#51 2016-01-20 10:50am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Evil_V wrote:

im sure that is the case, but I have had WAYYYY more 85 bikes than 86's.  it took me several years to get a nice survivor 86 sport in blue, whereas I had at least 5 different NOS 85 framesets.  I cant remember ever even seeing a NOS 86 frameset for sale anywhere.

I'd call ur 85 scores quite lucky!!cool
It's the opposite around here in the Detroit area.....


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1986 haro sport & 1986 haro master
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#52 2016-01-22 7:44pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Yeah there are a TON more nos 85 framesets compared to any nos 86. I can only think of seeing a handful of nos 86 any color or model since I joined in 09


always lookin for 82-86 survivor haro stuff

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#53 2016-01-22 8:19pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Some good info I got of Doms site a few years back ,,good read wink




Model: Haro Master 2
Date of Manufacture: March to October 1985
Serial Formula: 85 (year) 10 (month) four figure production sequence.
Origin: Taiwan, China
Manufacturer: Anlun
Approximate numbers Produced: Not known or measured at this point
Colour: Neon Green, Chrome Plated, White, Pink (limited numbers)
Description
1985 represented the first full year of Haro production from Anlun in Taiwan. In 1984, Anlun had delivered a sizeable volume of products for Haro half way through the year, and most models continued to be produced well into the final months. But this situation also had a consequence, and none of the 1985 bikes actually reached production until March of the year. In addition to a late start, the bikes and frames had to navigate through the various red tape and shipping lead times associated with overseas manufacturing and it was May/June before the new Masters, Sports and FST’s were available to purchase.
The earliest sightings of the new bikes was a tour in or around March of the year where Rich Sigur, Ron Wilkerson and Tony Murray all rode 85 models, although all the frames all appeared to have 84 decals applied or in some cases, none at all. By the time of the UK Kellogg’s Freestyle contest in June, it was still just the pro’s who could be seen riding them with Wilkerson on his trade mark Blue 85 Sport and Brian Blyther opting for the same model in chrome. According to the UK’s”Freestyle BMX” magazine, the prototypes looked “a bit messy” but the production models were “superb”
Changes and improvements to the ’85 models included “L” shaped platforms incorporated into the rear dropouts
and a completely re designed rear end. The bikes looked more substantial with Taiwanese fabricating and the overall
quality of production was excellent. The Master in particular was promoted as the specialist flat land model within
the range and Haro continued to model their offer around the select disciplines with the Sport once again catering
for the vert riders. The Sport and Master forks had also been redesigned for 1985. The chromoly tubing used is
thicker in diameter to that of the 84 models and removable fork pegs have been added through drilled holes within
the upper part of the fork tube.
The Master was once again elevated as the premium option within the range. The twin top tube design was being
adopted by other brands now, but Haro were still streets ahead in terms of design and presentation with stunning
new colour options available across the three bike range.
The Master would be available in chrome, White and a bold new neon green colour. The conception of the neon
green bike has been claimed by multiple sources over the years. It appears that the likeliest scenario was that Rich
Sigur appearing at a competition on his home painted Kawasaki green ‘84 Sport, sewed the seed of interest, and
Haro did subsequently receive a lot of mail from those who had seen Rich Riding the frame. There is also legitimacy
in the claim from Chris Allen at Shiner who imported Haro products into the UK. Chris recalls that the frames were
produced on the strength of a sizeable order for the UK Market after discussions with Haro in late 1984 and his
father’s belief that a neon green model would be popular.
The Master’s hardware specification also reinforced its claim as the “premium” Haro model within the range. Sugino
Flight Cranks, Haro’s new dedicated Freestyle handlebars and a redline stem all featured on the complete bike
option elevating the cost and status of the bike and allowing Haro to position the Sport and FST to other parts of the
developing BMX Market.
One minor manufacturing inconsistency is noticeable on the full year’s production. The March produced frames
appear to have completely smooth chain stays where the later months all had a textured knurling applied to increase
grip on the standing platforms.
The neon green 1985 Haro Master helped to push BMX Freestyle into a new era of creativity and expression.
Freestyle was about being a “creative person”, or so the guy that invented it once said...


Model: Haro Sport
Date of Manufacture: March to October 1985
Serial Formula: 85 (year) 10 (month) four figure production sequence.
Origin: Taiwan, China
Manufacturer: Anlun
Approximate numbers Produced: Not known or measured at this point
Colour: Neon Blue, Chrome Plated, White, Pink (limited numbers)
Description
1985 would be the year that the Haro Sport would become established as the specialist vert model in the Haro line up. Haro had conceived the Sport in the early months of 1984 through discussions with team riders Mike Dominguez and Rich Sigur, although the model hadn’t received the focus or marketing impetus that the established Master had enjoyed during 1984. The ’84 Sport had simply been a market test in its earliest incarnation with Haro confidently promoting it towards the end of 1984 when the complete bike package became a reality via its Asian manufacturer; Anlun. The Torker (US) Made Sports manufactured from April 1984 onwards were produced in relatively conservative numbers and a proportion of the first generation frames appear to have been used by team riders. 1985 would be a different story though...
During 1985, the Sport would arguably become the highest profile model in the line up thanks to the exposure it received in the BMX press. The busiest and most successful rider on the Haro team; Ron Wilkerson, rode the Sport throughout 1985 and enjoyed numerous successes at competition and sales and demand for the bike was impressive. Brian Blyther had also opted to ride a chrome Sport during early 1985 although he would be seen more regularly on a FST in later months for marketing and promotional reasons.
In terms of hardware, the “complete bike” specification was scaled down for the Sport making the price more attractive and with the booming interest in Skate Park and half pipe competitions, the bike would become a popular choice amongst the paying public.

Alongside the Master, the Sport now had a more substantial appearance due to the remodelled rear triangle. The frame now incorporated standing platforms with broader tubing at the back end and the Fork was drilled for removable stand on pegs. Ron Wilkerson can be seen airing the bike on the front of the 1985 Haro product catalogue which once again demonstrates Haro’s keenness to promote it.

Model: Haro FST (Freestyle Street or Track)
Date of Manufacture: March to October 1985
Serial Formula: 85 (year) 10 (month) four figure production sequence.
Origin: Taiwan, China
Manufacturer: Anlun
Approximate numbers Produced: Not known or measured at this point
Colour: Neon Blue, Chrome Plated, White, Neon Green, Neon Red.
Description
The 1985 FST indicated where Haro felt the future market opportunities existed for BMX Brands. BMX Freestyle was a booming high profile sport with an audience full of potential customers, but the established Sport and Master were specialist models, positioned towards the premium end of the market and out of reach for most. The exposure that BMX was enjoying had created a demand for a bike that was affordable and versatile, something that could be ridden in each discipline but not necessarily at a competitive level.
Haro’s answer to this challenge was the FST; Freestyle, Street or Track. The bike would be aimed at the “entry level” market and carry the Haro brand, offering riders the opportunity to access the number one brand in Freestyle, without breaking the bank. The FST would be a value proposition from its design and specification, through to its launch into the market place in the summer of 1985.
The frame was almost identical to the previous year’s model, except Anlun were now using rear dropouts fabricated
to their own specification. The head tube and bottom bracket shell remained “non machined” and the overall
geometry was identical with the serial number reverting back to the rear right hand dropout. The major change of
emphasis was on the presentation. The FST would be available in a vast choice of colours and finishes and would be
marketed using an association with a hugely popular Haro team rider; Brian Blyther. The reality is that Blyther rarely
rode an actual FST Frame as he found it too short and uncomfortable (18.5”) for his tall frame, but his popularity in
the sport made the association a smart move. Haro overcame the size issue by painting a 1984 U.S Made Sport;
Neon Red and adding FST decals. The Sport was a longer frame with a slacker head angle and offered more stability
on vert.


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#54 2016-01-23 1:53am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Good read Raven.
Much of it I've stumbled over in the past but still great to read it all in one single post. Always love to read the Blyther / fst story lol

Is Doms site still going?

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#55 2016-01-23 3:37am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

sbill wrote:

Good read Raven.
Much of it I've stumbled over in the past but still great to read it all in one single post. Always love to read the Blyther / fst story lol

Is Doms site still going?

I don,t thinks so ,,,it was Harocollector .com


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#56 2016-01-31 4:48pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Long gone. But I recently wrote a ton of new and known content for Haro, so they can host their own history website. I found some new information on my research travels... I guess they will get it up when they can.

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#57 2016-01-31 9:35pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

That would be great looking forward to reading that always enjoy reading about Haro History ,,,very interesting wink
Do you have any other books or projects coming out in the near future Dom ......wink


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#58 2016-04-01 7:59pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Nice

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#59 2016-05-06 9:49am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Love these great, informative threads!  Thanks

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#60 2016-05-06 2:36pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

My chrome sport from 86, along with my buddy and his Dyno Compe.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz299/Tblumer/FB_IMG_1462570376096_zpsvdno5qrv.jpg

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#61 2016-08-28 2:08am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Jumping in late on this but I have a 85 master #8506 that has the smaller gap between the top tubes and down tube. Not sure if Iv helped with this thread or not big_smile

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#62 2016-08-28 3:00am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

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#63 2016-08-30 11:44am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Oh I miss mine terribly.  I had a first gen white one.


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#64 2016-11-18 8:57am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Just want to add something to this regarding the non-knurling on the 85 Master chainstays.  It seems to always be said that after March of 85 production started including the knurling.  I had a green Master I sold in 2015 I believe that had an April 85 Manufacture date that also did NOT have knurling on the chainstays so somewhere DURING the month of April is when they actually started adding the knurling.  This is a great thread, thanks to everyone who has contributed.

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#65 2016-11-18 9:20am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Crackin wrote:

Jumping in late on this but I have a 85 master #8506 that has the smaller gap between the top tubes and down tube. Not sure if Iv helped with this thread or not big_smile

Not quite sure when the gap between the tubes increased but I heard it was so the sport and master could use the same gusset making this a universal part. Maybe there is some truth in this? Would make sense also.

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#66 2017-08-31 5:08pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Here some pic of my frame and fork before paint, sept 1985 or 86 model?http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_401459a8a4e61f.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_401559a8a4da97.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_401659a8a4e558.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_401759a8a4d28b.jpg

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#67 2017-08-31 5:11pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

And some more pics, I am going with paint , only because powdercoat hides the weldshttp://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_401759a8a57d30.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_401859a8a56fb9.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_401959a8a58c2f.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402059a8a5727f.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402159a8a59079.jpg


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#68 2017-08-31 5:14pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402259a8a656d2.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402359a8a64eed.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402459a8a65baf.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402559a8a638e9.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402659a8a65f8b.jpg


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#69 2017-08-31 5:18pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402759a8a6e7f1.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402859a8a6ef32.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_402959a8a6f68c.jpg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_403059a8a6f0c1.jpg
Not quite ready for paint but gettn there, now the museum has lots of angles of this classic frame in its raw state hope you enjoyed!

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#70 2017-09-11 7:56am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Definitely an '85 model.. I believe '86 bikes had serials staring in November.  '8511****'

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#71 2017-09-24 7:29pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/37413/img_415759c869e41c.jpg
The raw frame Is painted now,almost done


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#72 2017-10-06 5:49am

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Here is my May 85 Master with tight stem gap and no Knurling. Ive seen May frames with the opposite characteristics as well so It seems May was the transition month.
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/100869/img_6280.jpg59d77be1d3.jpeg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/100869/img_6281.jpg59d77be206.jpeg
http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/100869/img_6282.jpg59d77be234.jpeg
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#73 2017-10-06 1:26pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

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http://uploads.bmxmuseum.com/user-images/244543/00z0z_atsq1hnldrc_600x45059d7e79c91.jpg
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I just picked up this 1985 Haro FST.   From what I can tell from some of the other bikes on the museum and 85 Catalogue it looks like it is mostly original except the tires/grips?  Can anyone familiar with the Haro's tell me if it looks like this is original paint?  If it is original paint I will most likely just wax it.  If it has been sprayed, I will send it out.

Bike Specs are below.  I need, 1 Tech 4 Lever in Silver, F/R Dia-Compe Red Brake Cable Housing, Grips, Tires

Frame:        1985 Haro FST   Serial# 85102903
Fork:           1985 Haro FST Fork
Headset:      1" Tange
Bars:           Haro Freestyle?   They are unmarked  and have knurling on cross bar and at stem
Levers:        Dia-Compe  Tech 4 Silver Rear,  Missing Front Lever
Brakes:        Dia-Compe  890  Silver  Front & Rear
Stem:          Anlun- Blue
Seatpost:     Chrome Laid back-  Marked MENG
Seat:           Viscount Dyna - Maui Blue
Seat Clamp:  Dia-Compe MX - Silver
Crank:          Fu Pau? 175
Chainring:     Anlun
Wheels:        Ukai Speedlines with Suze hubs
Tires:            Redline
Pedals:         VP
Grips:           ?

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#74 2017-10-06 2:07pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

I would say that it is looking at how the decals have fade .........that,s a great survivor find .....coolcool


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#75 2017-10-06 2:27pm

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Re: The ultimate guide to the 1985 Haro Sport/ Master and FST thread.

Thanks Raven.  It my first Haro.  I tore it down and it almost looked like there was some white paint on the bottom headset cup that is why I was wondering if it was original paint.  Maybe someone just touched it up at some point. 

Going to try and figure out what grips to put on it and get to work trying to find some OG Red brake cable housing.   

Slap it back together with some fresh bearings and grease and see how it rides!


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