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#1 2011-03-06 7:39pm

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according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

on the site under the history section it clearly says that they started the one piece aluminum hub in 1981 yikes


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#2 2011-03-06 7:47pm

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Re: according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

Looks like it says 1978.


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#3 2011-03-06 8:01pm

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Re: according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

'78 sounds about right.


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#4 2011-03-06 8:21pm

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Re: according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

like i said it clearly says 78. so how come everyone allways talks about those didnt com out until the late 80's early 90's? and dont act like i made this up


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#5 2011-03-06 8:50pm

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Re: according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

This is one reason I dont build era correct bikes..too much headache and you dont know who to believe anymore

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#6 2011-03-06 10:21pm

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Re: according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

SuperSon wrote:

This is one reason I dont build era correct bikes..too much headache and you dont know who to believe anymore

lol thats funny big_smile i build semi era correct but i dont worrie about it that much. i do like a bike that looks like it could be a survivor though something cool about that


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#7 2011-03-06 10:41pm

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Re: according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

I go to Phil co about once a month for service work on hubs and sometimes wheel builds. I spoke to Mark the build manager and he gave me a short tour of the facility. Apparently Mark did not know the time line although he has worked there for many years. There was an older employee (I forgot his name) that was the guru of the place. According to this guy, the 1 piece hub (not the stainless 3 piece model) came out in 1981 for BMX. It may have been out earlier for roadbike  /touring but not spaced for BMX or marketed as such. I will ask again about the name for the hubs that were out in 1981. There was a specific name for them and as shown in the pics one side of the hub was higher on the rear than the other. I have a few sets of these as well as 7 sets of the first gen style. The third gen style was reported to have come out around 1990. This hub has the bulge on the sides where the bearing are sitting.


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#8 2011-03-06 10:58pm

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Re: according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

so who started the rumor they came out 10 years later than they did?  kinda weird i think. anyway good info se666


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#9 2011-03-06 11:06pm

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SuperSon wrote:

This is one reason I dont build era correct bikes..too much headache and you dont know who to believe anymore

amen build it the way you want it. because thats all that matters or should matter. because its about riding and making it fit to your liking. its hard to trust but there are good people out there still


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#10 2017-03-20 12:56pm

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Re: according to phil wood we are all wrong on the timeline

I don't know how they came out with the one piece hub when they didn't start milling until 1986. Begining with their wheelchair hubs.

Phil does have information posted on the site that is incorrect. They show a picture of a 1-piece milled hub, but say the hub has glued on flanges. I have put this together on facts, but it is not 100% inclusive yet. These are only hub for BMX, and not MTB or road bike.

The 1st picture is the first gen made in 1971. Although not a BMX model, many racers converted them with bolt-thru axles like the early Cook Bros and Bullseye.

The 2nd gen hubs came out in 1978 and ran until 1985.

From 1986-92 is an area I need to do more research.

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