DONT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY !!!!!! osbornjunkie 
#1 2008-06-10 2:21am
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DONT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY !!!!!! osbornjunkie
HEY EVERYONE BETTER BE CAREFUL DEALING WITH THIS IDIOT !!!! ANYONE THAT HAS BOUGHT OR TRADED WITH ME KNOWS HOW WELL I PACKAGE THINGS !!!!!! THIS IDIOT SAID HE RECEAVED MY PACKAGE TODAY BUT PACKAGE WAS OPEN AND SEAT WAS MISSING !!!! I TOLD HIM THAT THE PACKAGE HAD TO BE CUT OPEN TO REMOVE THE SEAT !!! FIRST CONTACT WAS TODAY ! I SOLD HIM A SKYWAY GRABBER FOR 25.00 SHIPPED FROM OHIO TO CALIFORNIA !! AND HE HAS ENOUGH NERVE TO FILE A PAYPAL DISPUTE ON ME !! WHAT A F.... !!!! A 25.00 SEAT SHIPPED AND ASKING ME ABOUT INSURANCE AND FILING A COMPLAINT AGAINST ME LIKE I AM GGOING TO PAY 7.00 DOLLARS TO SHIP AN EMPTY PACKAGE !!!! YOU MEDIATORS BETTER BAN THIS PIECE OF CRAP BEFORE ANYONE ELSE GETS BURNED FOR REAL MONEY !!!!!! HERES HIS PMs
6/9/08 at 11:25 am osbornjunkie wrote
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E-mail PM hello i was wondering if you had a tracking number for the package thank you... and where is it coming from? thanks again louis
6/9/08 11:49 am hb4dj replies !!
hey shpuld be there this weeek i sent it pacel post so 5-9 days they wanyted 10 dollars for priority and it still cost 7.00 to ship parcel post thanks john
6/9/08 3:49 pm osbornjunkie wrote:
i received an empty envelope mailer this morning with my address handwritten on loose leaf and taped to it. i think that might've been it and went to postmaster general i need to know where it came from, so he can look in dead letter lost and found it had priority stickers on this envelope though. possibly it? or did you send in box? appreciate it thanks, louis
6/9/08 1:05 pm hb4dj wrote
i can assure you if it was what i sent it was cut out !! i get free tape from work and when i am finished you have to operate to get part !!! that was it if i taped your address to it and i would take that mailer into post office they can tell buy postage weight that there was a seat in it and also it would have to have been cut !!! let me know thanks john
6/9/08 12.25 am osbornjunkie wrote
hey i have not heard back from you ... i need to know where the seat came from so that they can try to locate it without that info i will just lose out...
and here is the email from paypal at 12:35 am
Flag this messageNew Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-489-116-381Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:35 AM
From: This sender is DomainKeys verified "service@paypal.com" <service@paypal.com>Add sender to Contacts To: hb4dj@yahoo.comDear heather brill,
louis rosson has opened a dispute for the payment made to you on Jun 2,
2008 indicating that the item they received did not match the original
description.
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Transaction Details
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Buyer's Name: louis rosson
Buyer's Email: lnrosson@netzero.net
Buyer's Transaction ID: 0M3317910L175200A
Transaction Date: Jun 2, 2008
Transaction Amount: -$25.00 USD
Your Transaction ID: 8S8938490L664412F
Case Number: PP-489-116-381
Seller's Transaction ID: 8S8938490L664412F
Your Transaction ID:8S8938490L664412F
Buyer's Transaction ID:0M3317910L175200A
By opening this dispute, louis rosson is asking for your help to resolve
this issue. This is your best opportunity to resolve this problem before
the buyer escalates it to a PayPal claim or files a chargeback with their
card issuer.
SO HERES THE DEAL OSBORNIE JUNKIE NO YOU WONT HEAR FROM ME BUT I HOPE GUYS THAT KNOW ME WILL FILL YOUR INBOX FOR ME AND I AM GOING TO REFUND YOUR 25.00 JUST TO CLOSE A DISPUTED CASE !!! BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS DONT EVER BUY ANYTHING FROM ME AGAIN !!! AND ENJOY YOUR SEAT !!!
refund issued !!!
not as described - Case ID: PP-489-116-381
Dispute Closed: 6/10/2008 02:18 PDTLearn more
Transaction ID: 8S8938490L664412F
Buyer Name & Email: louis rosson, lnrosson@netzero.net
Transaction Amount: $25.00 USD
Transaction Date: 6/2/2008 01:07 PDT
Package Status: Add tracking number
Total Messages: 3
From PayPal: PayPal on 6/10/2008 02:18 PDT
A Refund was issued.
From Seller: heather brill on 6/10/2008 02:18 PDT
do not buy off me again and enjoy your seat !!!
From Buyer: louis rosson on 6/9/2008 21:35 PDT
i received the package with no seat in it
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#2 2008-06-10 4:08am
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thats messed up. over a little bs seat to.just remember karma is a $#%&^
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#3 2008-06-10 4:11am
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bits n pieces wrote:
thats messed up. over a little bs seat to.just remember karma is a $#%&^
yes a 25.00 seat that paypal got their cut and the post office got paid to deliver and i get to pay for !!!
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#4 2008-06-10 4:43am
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there was another email in there at 2:07 p.m. that was not answered all i wanted was info where it came from to help me locate the seat... i did not ask for a refund at all... i just needed help on locating it... after two emails with no response to that one question seemed like he did not want to help me locate the seat... i would've helped him or anyone else on here if i was doing business with them:)... i will post pics of the package as soon as i can get it back from the office... no better yet i will take a pic of it with the postmaster general... did not mean for it to turn into a big deal... i just ask that i'm given the time to present my side of the case before i am banned or talked badly about:(... and if i could've done anymore someone please tell me so that this never happens again and about the seat had one bitd have searched high and low and only about third time i saw and none were in as good of shape. still no answer where package originated from he says ohio to cali? i'm located in mississippi.
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Re: DONT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY !!!!!! osbornjunkie
osborn, if there was no insurance on the package, its not hb4dj's fault. He cant control what happens when the package is in the systems hands. Never trust the US postal service. As for the seat, get the post office to find ouyt. they know where the damn package was from. it will be post marked from where it was shipped. Trust me i know. my mother in law is a postmaster.
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#6 2008-06-10 6:04am
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the return address shipping info and everything is missing off of the package. it looks like it was run over with a forklift is what the mailman told me i never said it was his fault i dont believe its his fault at all... all i asked for was help in locating the seat that is all... just a big misunderstanding and i hope that it can be reconciled...
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#7 2008-06-10 6:14am
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Re: DONT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY !!!!!! osbornjunkie
Sounds to me like fault lies with the post office, not with hb4dj. I've spent 1/2 hour opening his packages.
No way anything would fall out of that one. Take it up with the post office for locating lost item. buy insurance for 1.25. saves a lot of grief.
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#8 2008-06-10 6:23am
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I almost dont even want to comment. But, if you were waiting for an answer on the address it came from, why did you file the PayPal dispute? Did you really wait long enough for the reply or re-ask the question? It's hard sometimes, but, if you didn't wait very long and did go to Paypal prematurely, I think you owe hb4dj an apology. He definitely deserves props for manning up and eating the cost of a refund. that would NOT happen in most cases. And, it does prove that he's trying to do the right thing.
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yes and this is your pm to me !!! what did you think would happen when you filed a paypal dispute !!!!!!!! anyways i dont usually ship a 25.00 seat with insurance and i dont expect anyone else to unless i request insurance !! hell i just bought 300.00 skyway t/a bars and didnt request insurance because the guy i bought them off i know he packages stuff well and why dont you post a pic of how seat came out of package without being cut out !!! anyways back to your pm what other 2 messages did you send that were not answered just post them here because i didnt get them !!! and i answered your 3 others in one day !!
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E-mail PM look i don't need the money back from you i just needed to know where the item was shipped from so that i could have it located... i really just want the seat... i sent you 2 messages with no response yesterday... i did not know that the paypal stuff would affect you... this has never happened to me before... i'm truly sorry... but like i explained to you i needed to know where it was shipped from to try to locate it...
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Re: DONT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY !!!!!! osbornjunkie
Ive dealt with them one on one everyday for over 16 years now,and I'll tell you. I will NEVER ship anything through the USPS. Even if its insured,it can take forever to get your money back. Its a fact that 20% of things sent through the USPS never reaches its destination.
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hb4dj wrote:
ANYONE THAT HAS BOUGHT OR TRADED WITH ME KNOWS HOW WELL I PACKAGE THINGS !!!!!!
Hehe, I have bought from you before and I remember having to get out a razor knife to open the package. I thought you must have owned stock in 3M Tape or something.
I'm so old school...I still call it a gooseneck.
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how do i post messages onto here?
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I BUY ANYTHING OLD SCHOOL SE RACING! Framesets, stickers, bars, padsets, jerseys, helmets and etc!
Always looking for NOS or MINT USED 20 inch Yellow Label Comp II and 3 tires in black and 20 inch Cycle Pro Snake belly tires in black with or without skinwall!
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Re: DONT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY !!!!!! osbornjunkie
hb4dj sent me a couple of packages and actualy puts a envelope inside of a cardboard mailer to protect no need to go through that but that extra step shows he cares about how he ships items i have done over a handfull of transactions with him and would gladly do a thousand more so i highly doubt it was his fault i say chase the post office down and get some answers just my opinion i trust hb4dj he is not the type of guy to ruin his credibility over a 20.00 spot
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Endorific wrote:
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ANYONE THAT HAS BOUGHT OR TRADED WITH ME KNOWS HOW WELL I PACKAGE THINGS !!!!!!
Hehe, I have bought from you before and I remember having to get out a razor knife to open the package. I thought you must have owned stock in 3M Tape or something.
yes i get free packing tape from a vendor that i do business with by the boxes !! so when i pack stuff i know it has to be cut out !!! thanks for the feedback !! appreciate it
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how do i put pics on here??
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I think that someone opened it cause of damage and said hey I can make some money on ebay with this then packaged it back up. Or hes bull shitting ya. I was involved in a trade where the frame and wheels were in same box but when I got it it was wheels only and we never got info on frame. So someone got a free 83 chrome viper. SUCKS
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yes postmaster should know where this package came from and if the return address is missing then your letter carrier should be able to help you in telling the post master where it came from , another thing if the return address is missing there is a printed bar code in the bottom of the package the is printed on every letter and package in light pinkish to prove that it was run through the system, that my friend is the prooof of where the item came from thus tracking it and possibly locating the the "missing" seat......................................
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#19 2008-06-10 8:08am
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just shows the link no pics? am i doing something wrong? as i said none of hte vital info is still on there no pink writing or anything... a picture is worth a thousand words
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Sooooooo. What prompted you to contact PayPal with a dispute before trying to get the address from him? I don't think anyone is arguing that there was damage.
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here you go i went to photobucket !!! dude you posting this pics make you look like more of an ass !!! you think i would ship this out like this !!!! the post office wouldnt even take a package looking like this !!!! andthen you tell paypal you didnt receave !!!!!!!! like i am scamming you !!!!!! why dont you go try some other bmx page because we dont have time for guys like you !!!!!!! if you cant work simple s... like this out without crying to paypal i dont think anybody will want to deal with you !!!
http://photobucket.com/albums/ll54/osbo … rty038.jpg
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here you go i went to photobucket !!! dude you posting this pics make you look like more of an ass !!! you think i would ship this out like this !!!! the post office wouldnt even take a package looking like this !!!! andthen you tell paypal you didnt receave !!!!!!!! like i am scamming you !!!!!! why dont you go try some other bmx page because we dont have time for guys like you !!!!!!! if you cant work simple s... like this out without crying to paypal i dont think anybody will want to deal with you !!!
http://photobucket.com/albums/ll54/osbo … rty038.jpgMan. Look at it from his side. He received this in the mail instead of a seat. He asks you about it, you tell him , No I sent a seat. He is freaking out because he has nothing. He goes to the post office to ask for help, they want to know the address it is coming from. Passing the buck. He tries to contact you twice to get the info, and nothing.
If was stupid to file a paypal dispute. It wasn't your fault. but it seems to me like open communication would have solved this from the beginning. He was just asking for help.
I may be missing something, but I agree. Thats how I see it too
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i wouldnt have even accepted a package like that, i would have told the carrier to take it back, shoot, the carrier wouldnt have even delivered that.and it looks more like a lawnmower ran it over, not a forklift.
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i wouldnt have even accepted a package like that, i would have told the carrier to take it back, shoot, the carrier wouldnt have even delivered that.and it looks more like a lawnmower ran it over, not a forklift.
THATS a great point....
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