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These are the first pair of Suntourr XCs I have owned, never really ever thought about it until now. I have have plenty of xc IIs, but never thought about them having original xcs....lmk what you know about them.......thanks RP

mtbwrxwagon · 2012-07-03 9:05pm

There not XCIs. There XCIIs with Urchin cages. The earlier ones had 4 smaller teeth on the one side then 2 teeth on the other per side & were braced.

restoredperfection · 2012-07-03 9:11pm

mtbwrxwagon wrote:
There not XCIs. There XCIIs with Urchin cages. The earlier ones had 4 smaller teeth on the one side then 2 teeth on the other per side & were braced.

I knew the cages were urchins, I just presumed the were XCs because they were not marked or decaled as xc II

Leatherman · 2012-07-03 9:14pm

mtbwrxwagon wrote:
The earlier ones had 4 smaller teeth on the one side then 2 teeth on the other per side & were braced.

It was 3 teeth on the one side and 1 on the other.

butcherbobhayes · 2012-07-03 9:18pm

I believe that those are XC-2's with replacement cages, not actual Suntour cages. The braced version came first with with the super sharp cages (XC's). Then came the brace-less with the flattened teeth (XC-2). I think that the brace-less bodies came about to eliminate the need for a right and left body. Also in between the 2 different models there are braced bodies with flattened teeth and brace-less with sharp teeth. I'm not real sure how that happened, probably just using up their stock.

Here is a cool pedal timeline.

http://speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseacti … seum.quill

mtbwrxwagon · 2012-07-03 9:19pm

Yes. I screwd up. 3 then 1 per left & right side of each pedal totaling 8 teeth per top & bottom side. Here they are post#2
http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=41728

erichevy · 2012-07-03 9:25pm

butcherbobhayes wrote:
I believe that those are XC-2's with replacement cages, not actual Suntour cages. The braced version came first with with the super sharp cages (XC's). Then came the brace-less with the flattened teeth (XC-2). I think that the brace-less bodies came about to eliminate the need for a right and left body. Also in between the 2 different models there are braced bodies with flattened teeth and brace-less with sharp teeth. I'm not real sure how that happened, probably just using up their stock.

Here is a cool pedal timeline.

http://speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseacti … seum.quill

I bought some brand new in about 88 and they were braced XCII's with the flattened cages. I recently read somewhere that the brace-less were the early versions, and weren't strong enough for the pro riders. They may have added the brace later for strength. Who knows...

butcherbobhayes · 2012-07-03 9:31pm

erichevy wrote:
butcherbobhayes wrote:
I believe that those are XC-2's with replacement cages, not actual Suntour cages. The braced version came first with with the super sharp cages (XC's). Then came the brace-less with the flattened teeth (XC-2). I think that the brace-less bodies came about to eliminate the need for a right and left body. Also in between the 2 different models there are braced bodies with flattened teeth and brace-less with sharp teeth. I'm not real sure how that happened, probably just using up their stock.

Here is a cool pedal timeline.

http://speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseacti … seum.quill
I bought some brand new in about 88 and they were braced XCII's with the flattened cages. I recently read somewhere that the brace-less were the early versions, and weren't strong enough for the pro riders. They may have added the brace later for strength. Who knows...

I have braced bodies with flattened XC-2 stamped cages as well. I think that they came out during the change between the braced/brace-less and sharp/flattened and were just sitting around for awhile. That is just a guess though. I know that this has been talked about quite a bit.

Neil-Son · 2012-07-03 11:41pm

xc1 and xc2 in silver bodies arent rare at all even with urchin cages...the black bodied or gun metal gray xc1 and xc2 are , Havent seen a NOS pair and only seen a few pairs in rider and survivor condition went up for sale in the last 4 years

most sought after pedals by racers and freestylers IMO..slap on some troynloris cages on em and youre set....theres dx and speedtrap but it seems that xc's tops them both

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Keebler Elf 24" · 2012-07-03 11:53pm

Neil-Son wrote:
xc1 and xc2 in silver bodies arent rare at all even with urchin cages...the black bodied or gun metal gray xc1 and xc2 are , Havent seen a NOS pair and only seen a few pairs in rider and survivor condition went up for sale in the last 4 years

most sought after pedals by racers and freestylers IMO..slap on some troynloris cages on em and youre set....theres dx and speedtrap but it seems that xc's tops them both

I have these on my ELF now

Neil-Son · 2012-07-04 12:01am

Rarest of them all ..check the cages

Neil-Son · 2012-07-04 12:02am

Keebler Elf 24" wrote:
Neil-Son wrote:
xc1 and xc2 in silver bodies arent rare at all even with urchin cages...the black bodied or gun metal gray xc1 and xc2 are , Havent seen a NOS pair and only seen a few pairs in rider and survivor condition went up for sale in the last 4 years

most sought after pedals by racers and freestylers IMO..slap on some troynloris cages on em and youre set....theres dx and speedtrap but it seems that xc's tops them both
I have these on my ELF now

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae33 … G_1952.jpg
http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae33 … G_1953.jpg

looks bitchin...slap on some decals on it

Keebler Elf 24" · 2012-07-04 12:09am

Neil-Son wrote:
Keebler Elf 24" wrote:
Neil-Son wrote:
xc1 and xc2 in silver bodies arent rare at all even with urchin cages...the black bodied or gun metal gray xc1 and xc2 are , Havent seen a NOS pair and only seen a few pairs in rider and survivor condition went up for sale in the last 4 years

most sought after pedals by racers and freestylers IMO..slap on some troynloris cages on em and youre set....theres dx and speedtrap but it seems that xc's tops them both
I have these on my ELF now

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae33 … G_1952.jpg
http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae33 … G_1953.jpg
looks bitchin...slap on some decals on it

Hmmmm now that you mention it, I might just have to do that. Only problem is my ELF is a rider and I'm pretty sure I'll just thrash them.

Neil-Son · 2012-07-04 12:13am

Keebler Elf 24" wrote:
Neil-Son wrote:
Keebler Elf 24" wrote:

I have these on my ELF now

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae33 … G_1952.jpg
http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae33 … G_1953.jpg
looks bitchin...slap on some decals on it
Hmmmm now that you mention it, I might just have to do that. Only problem is my ELF is a rider and I'm pretty sure I'll just thrash them.

Its only a few bucks for the decals

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