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Kid718 wrote:

fugazi wrote:

Just built this up again as it was wrong that the frame just sat in it's box doing nothing, Dirt Bikes are for riding! Got a couple of bits to change & putting all Black tyres on, I'm over the Tanwall craze!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g182/ … GP0780.jpg

Nice!  Where did you get the dookie style decals?

I want to know as well. I've been holding out for either those or '95 style Holmes decals for my 24" Dirt Bike.

fugazi wrote:

contact Del via www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/ or Del at www.del-cals.co.uk/ He's a top Man & the decals are spot on!

Del is a super cool dude.
He set me up with these decals:

Del's work is second to none, those dookie decals were repro'd from a frame of mine, one of it's previous owner traced the decals, he was gonna remove and scan them



Some of Del's finest....

papalone13 wrote:

i wish radbmx would accept my membership lol. its been weeks! i wanna buy some off del, but cant pm him unless im a member lol

Just send him a email with yahoo, msn, hotmail... whatever you use   info@del-cals.co.uk

The boys in the UK have an awesome mid-school section filled with a lot of cool guys who love their S&M:
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=25.0

MonocoqueMike wrote:

Am I the only one that thinks it sucks when you see a frame and you can't tell if the decals are genuine or reproduced?  I understand that everyone wants to have decals for their frame, but there is a reason why most don't...It was the style to get a new frame and take the stickers off right when you got it!

I don't have a problem with S&M redoing stickers because it's their design and their right to do so.  Personally, I will be more cautious in the future when buying frames since certain decal sets have been reproduced.  A prime example would be the maroon dirt bike with cholo decals on it that popped up in the f/s section a week or so ago.  A few years ago I wouldn't have questioned that the frame had original finish and decals, but since S&M reproduced the cholo decals, I was hesitant to pull the trigger.  Whereas, if it was a few years ago I would have snapped it up in seconds...

I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way, but I'm also honest about what I have and what I sell.  I can't say that for everyone.  Over the years that I have been a member here I have had several people PM me about giving them measurements or scans of decals and I personally wouldn't do it. 

And is it just me or does every one of the bikes that gets posted from the other side of the pond completely mint with a full set of decals?  I know this post is going to start some poop but hey, it's just my .02 so don't get too offended!

I sort of agree.  The re-popping takes away from the uniqueness of a bike with OG decals.  I understand og will always be og...but with the quality of re-pops now, you cannot tell.

That said, I have bought some of S&M's re-pop sets.

if i put re-pops on my bike, it would likely be for me, and i most likely wouldnt sell the bike. but i understand the argument, its one of those thing... like i want repops for my bike but dont want everyone else to have them too... lol idk.

MonocoqueMike wrote:

Am I the only one that thinks it sucks when you see a frame and you can't tell if the decals are genuine or reproduced?  I understand that everyone wants to have decals for their frame, but there is a reason why most don't...It was the style to get a new frame and take the stickers off right when you got it!

I don't have a problem with S&M redoing stickers because it's their design and their right to do so.  Personally, I will be more cautious in the future when buying frames since certain decal sets have been reproduced.  A prime example would be the maroon dirt bike with cholo decals on it that popped up in the f/s section a week or so ago.  A few years ago I wouldn't have questioned that the frame had original finish and decals, but since S&M reproduced the cholo decals, I was hesitant to pull the trigger.  Whereas, if it was a few years ago I would have snapped it up in seconds...

I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way, but I'm also honest about what I have and what I sell.  I can't say that for everyone.  Over the years that I have been a member here I have had several people PM me about giving them measurements or scans of decals and I personally wouldn't do it. 

And is it just me or does every one of the bikes that gets posted from the other side of the pond completely mint with a full set of decals?  I know this post is going to start some poop but hey, it's just my .02 so don't get too offended!

I would have liked for the new decals sets from S&M to be slightly different than the originals.  Like changing the "Bicycles Made in USA" to "American Bicycle Company" under the shield.  And Mike, speaking of original stickers, keep my in mind on that Holmes.

yeah i hear ya. idk, i guess it just gets ridiculous when a frame with rare decals sells for 4 times as much as a frame with no decals. paying an extra 200 bucks for "OG" decals... no thanks.  for me, i'd rather slap repops on it and have the same feeling. what does annoy me is when a 95 has 93 decals or a 97 with 94 decals. that just confuses everyone and really destroys the hobby for me. but to each his own ya know.

brandonbig wrote:

MonocoqueMike wrote:

Am I the only one that thinks it sucks when you see a frame and you can't tell if the decals are genuine or reproduced?  I understand that everyone wants to have decals for their frame, but there is a reason why most don't...It was the style to get a new frame and take the stickers off right when you got it!

I don't have a problem with S&M redoing stickers because it's their design and their right to do so.  Personally, I will be more cautious in the future when buying frames since certain decal sets have been reproduced.  A prime example would be the maroon dirt bike with cholo decals on it that popped up in the f/s section a week or so ago.  A few years ago I wouldn't have questioned that the frame had original finish and decals, but since S&M reproduced the cholo decals, I was hesitant to pull the trigger.  Whereas, if it was a few years ago I would have snapped it up in seconds...

I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way, but I'm also honest about what I have and what I sell.  I can't say that for everyone.  Over the years that I have been a member here I have had several people PM me about giving them measurements or scans of decals and I personally wouldn't do it. 

And is it just me or does every one of the bikes that gets posted from the other side of the pond completely mint with a full set of decals?  I know this post is going to start some poop but hey, it's just my .02 so don't get too offended!

They're just stickers bro.

+1.....this whole original this and that stuff really gets old. The point is to build bikes any way you like them to look. There are no rules, its all about having fun. I see no reason why anyone should have a problem with repop stickers, after all, the're just stickers for gods sake. If a simple piece of clear plastic makes a difference as to the meaning of any bike, I would say get help for massive O.C.D. Even better, buy a gem mint/new old school bike frame worth $2000 or more, build it up using white gloves, drop another $2000 on parts new from the 80's still in the original box, then take it to the friggin track and ghost ride it out of the gate and ride it till the wheels fall off. New concept.........having fun riding instead of worrying about the stickers.

There is one thing however that kind of bothers me, that is when a bike is old with the wrong stickers to mislead a buyer. Now I know that many people will say that a buyer should be informed before buying....maybe so, maybe not.....IDK. But when S&M stickers end up on another brand frame for someone without experience, that is flat B.S. That goes fot any bike.........I have no problem having a custom built S&M Holmes style bike from S&M with a set of repop Holmes stickers. I may do that myself actually, but when repop stickers end up on a totally different brand frame, that sucks.

Last edited by Stoner71 (2012-07-01 11:43pm)

Finally got some photos of my PBR..

I like to make my bikes era correct, so if there re-pops or OG, I really don't care if there printed in 1996 or 2012.  But I would prefer them made by the original company and not off some ones ink jet printer.  There is a huge difference between screen print and ink jet. That's why I wish S&M would do something like a limited production of certain decal set or something like that.

Last edited by RDaniel2405 (2012-07-01 11:12pm)

trailclimber wrote:

Finally got some photos of my PBR..
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t343 … 37_170.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t343 … -28_71.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t343 … -18_60.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t343 … 16_735.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t343 … 00_112.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t343 … 27_634.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t343 … -57_31.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t343 … 15_959.jpg

that looks great man.

the S&M bug bit me in 1996. I built my first Dirt Bike in 1997, built another in 2002, then built a 2005 Black Bike. the Black is about to get replaced by a S&M made SIIHBAP in t- minus 2 days.

the only pics I have of the first are sitting in a box somewhere. I still miss it. Stupid Fork/stem combo, GT box cranks, SuperPros, GT Dropnose seat.

the second DB:
Bully Nudie bars, Diamondback D Cell cranks and wheelset from a DB Option complete if anyone was curious.
how it was built, minus front 990 and downtube decal


later with Pitchfork, swapped the Ringworm tires for Elm Streets


various versions of the Black Bike:

how it was built. I wasn't a fan of the Black Bike decals, so I used some PBR's here and there.


sticker crazy


with Fit Highs, Animal pedals, Primo front wheel, Fly front/Animal rear tires, Fit S3 stem




upgraded to some no name 8"x28" bars, pedals painted black




upgraded to Fly Racing Mike Day bars


then through the magic of craigslist and birthday gifts this year I got Odyssey Directors, Trailmix pedals, Mike Aitken seat, Animal pivotal post, Primo Remix rear wheel


I have been waiting for the bmxboard SIIHBAP frame to be released for about a year, so most of my newer parts were purchased for the switch over to the new frame so I can keep the Black Bike built as a spare and the SIIHBAP my daily.

I bent my Mike Day bars, so I bought Grand Slam XLTs and DUO Corey Martinez grips a few weeks ago.


I got word that the SIIHBAPs would be shipped out last week, so I started to convert a few things. I raw'd a spare set of Profiles, threw them on with a 25 S&M Little Man in place of the Fit Lite sprocket I had. this will be the last picture of the Black Bike in it's close-to-original form. I have swapped all my spare parts onto it, and all my current stuff is sitting in a pile waiting for the new frame.


pics of the Black Bike will be up as soon as I get a front wheel, and decide what I want to do with the brake. I really want to have a front brake again, so it might be front only or both.

sorry that this turned into a Black Bike timeline...