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#1 2012-05-23 2:10pm

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! Why is it so COMPLICATED?

im building my first wheel set here so bare with me!

I called Danscomp this morning and asked what size spokes i needed...they told me

for the Front-181mm
for the Back-180mm
with a - 4x pattern
and -16mm nipples

my question to you guys if you could please help me out is this

Can i run the 180mm on the front as well..that way i don't have to buy 2 different size spokes and i can get the 180mm ones in a pack of 100 count...

i don't think the 1mm will make a difference but i am not sure...any help please..

the wheels im doing are

GT High Flange Sealed 48h
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Sun 4 Play Double Wall 48h

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#2 2012-05-23 2:13pm

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Re: ! Why is it so COMPLICATED?

Assuming they got the numbers right, 1mm shorter is not enough to cause a problem.


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#3 2012-05-23 2:14pm

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It will more than likely work for both.


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#4 2012-05-23 2:15pm

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Re: ! Why is it so COMPLICATED?

i would recommend using the correct size spokes if you can get them, if not then i would go with the closest size spoke.

why not lace a 3 cross its easier and just as strong plus its lighter because you will use a shorter spoke.

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#5 2012-05-23 2:20pm

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so far im digging the "yea go for it" attitude..thanks

now about the 3 cross can anyone upload or show me pics of both...a 4x wheel and a 3x wheel...that would be chill


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#6 2012-05-23 2:27pm

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Just stick to the 4 and Thank caleb later.

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so far im digging the "yea go for it" attitude..thanks

now about the 3 cross can anyone upload or show me pics of both...a 4x wheel and a 3x wheel...that would be chill

I dont have a scanner but if you have a fax number, I'll copy a few pages from a killer wheel building book I have and I'll fax you the copies. Just PM me a fax number if you're into it and I'll do this tomorrow for you.

Like others have mentioned, 1mm longer won't kill anything, especially if you're using double wall rims. Everytime I build wheels, I have bumped up my spoke length at least 1mm here and there due to the shop not having the proper size of spoke I needed and everything went just fine.

Myself, I always lace with a cross 3 beacuse I'm not a big dude doing 6' drops and cross 3 has worked for me just fine. I use only DT stainless spokes and nothing else, even on my old stuff, I still use DT stainless.

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#8 2012-05-23 2:30pm

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i watched this video a few times. it works the came was for 36h and 48h
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYl4NO5m16Q

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#9 2012-05-23 2:36pm

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Coco wrote:

A GT RIDER wrote:

so far im digging the "yea go for it" attitude..thanks

now about the 3 cross can anyone upload or show me pics of both...a 4x wheel and a 3x wheel...that would be chill

I dont have a scanner but if you have a fax number, I'll copy a few pages from a killer wheel building book I have and I'll fax you the copies. Just PM me a fax number if you're into it and I'll do this tomorrow for you.

Like others have mentioned, 1mm longer won't kill anything, especially if you're using double wall rims. Everytime I build wheels, I have bumped up my spoke length at least 1mm here and there due to the shop not having the proper size of spoke I needed and everything went just fine.

Myself, I always lace with a cross 3 beacuse I'm not a big dude doing 6' drops and cross 3 has worked for me just fine. I use only DT stainless spokes and nothing else, even on my old stuff, I still use DT stainless.

i dont but my pops should...ill try to get a fax number from his job..and ill pm u with it..by tonight if not tomorrow if thats fine

so your saying that im good to go if i use the 180mm on both front and back?


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#10 2012-05-23 2:37pm

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thewhitelarrybird wrote:

i watched this video a few times. it works the came was for 36h and 48h
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYl4NO5m16Q

thanks..ill watch it!


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#11 2012-05-23 2:37pm

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So

180mm for FRONT and BACK........Good?cool


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#12 2012-05-23 2:38pm

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Mags would have you riding already.


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#13 2012-05-23 2:40pm

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#14 2012-05-23 2:41pm

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Not a fan of Dan's, dan?

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Mags would have you riding already.

Know what the worst part of running mags on your bike is? Telling your dad you're gay.....


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#16 2012-05-23 2:45pm

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thewhitelarrybird wrote:

i watched this video a few times. it works the came was for 36h and 48h
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYl4NO5m16Q

thanks..ill watch it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NJwEcm- … ure=relmfu

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#17 2012-05-23 2:47pm

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^^^  lol lol lol  @ Owl's answer.


A couple of millimeters isn't going to make a noticeable difference.

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#18 2012-05-23 2:55pm

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So

180mm for FRONT and BACK........Good?cool

I'll go up 1 mm in size but not down in size. A little long is better than too short.


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Coco wrote:

A little long is better than too short.

Thats what she said....


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#20 2012-05-23 2:59pm

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thewhitelarrybird wrote:

i would recommend using the correct size spokes if you can get them, if not then i would go with the closest size spoke.

why not lace a 3 cross its easier and just as strong plus its lighter because you will use a shorter spoke.

4x is still best for 48's

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#21 2012-05-23 2:59pm

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I am the owl... wrote:

monkee363 wrote:

Mags would have you riding already.

Know what the worst part of running mags on your bike is? Telling your dad you're gay.....

OK, I LOLed. big_smile

1mm wouldn't make a difference.


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#22 2012-05-23 3:00pm

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180 if anything sounds too short for sun 4 plays anyway?  and the shorter nipples handle the angle better than the long 16mm ones do.

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#23 2012-05-23 3:09pm

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cdridesonly wrote:

180 if anything sounds too short for sun 4 plays anyway?  and the shorter nipples handle the angle better than the long 16mm ones do.

high flange hubs wink

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#24 2012-05-23 3:15pm

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I am the owl... wrote:

Coco wrote:

A little long is better than too short.

Thats what she said....

lol


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#25 2012-05-23 3:16pm

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sounds like the rims are more along the thickness of the Alex triple walls.


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