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What do you hate about ns geometry?

Go to some bike shops and see what feels good.If you are a real big dude you might want a cruiser? and, there are tons of mid and new school bikes that dont have the low profile frame, (short seat tube) if thats what you don't like. look on CL, you never know what you'll find.And find out what frame spec's you need and look on Dan's comp and other sites they should have all spec's and TT options listed

harlen wrote:

What do you hate about ns geometry?

To me they feel to tight in the steering and short height wise. Even back in the day I was using a CW style bar with a 9" rise and running the neck out a bit.
I like my bikes set up with a more upright riding position. I feel it gives me more leverage to pull the front of the bike up to manual and get some boost when I need it. New school stuff seems low and requires more bent over riding position. Just uncomfortable for me.

well theres always the newschool fad of huge bars, S&M perfect 10's etc

oldgooseguy wrote:

pjohnpowers wrote:

I have a local bike shop in AZ, I would be happy to help you out!!    I race in the 41 over intermediate class and race 20" bikes.  I deal mostly with SE bikes and ride the new 2012 PK Ripper XLP.  They do have a retro looptail that is 21.25 TT and has that old school style and feel.   Let me know if I can help out since I am in the same age bracket as you.  I am only 5'10" and 180 though, but that really doesn't matter to much when it comes to racing.  I have seen many larger guys out there with some mad bike skills and speed!!!   

I went through my pile of stuff and for now I will be riding the 1999 Torker TR 5.3. I picked up this week. I'm not fond of it yet but with some tweaking and time it might work out.
I will be looking for some tall bars and basic track stuff pad set, helmet, plate and the like.
I rode for years as a kid so it should all come back. As this point I know what I need more than anything is cardio training and some track time.

New tracks are not like the old tracks we knew as a kid.

muphasta wrote:

are those low slung frame race frames or street/park/dirt frames? big difference between all the different frames now.

good point. I guess i am such an os guy i never gave that any thought....

harlen wrote:

I still dont understand why old people cant let go of the past.

Well for me its kinda like this. My brain and my muscle memory are set to a specific way of riding and type of bike that feels comfortable under me. I know that if I was to keep riding a new school bike for a long period of time I would adapt. Yet why should I? I like what I like. My body is comfortable on OS stuff. So why not build a bike that suits me and my riding style? Everyone I know builds a bike suited to them. It has nothing to do letting go of the past. It has everything to do with riding style.

trinity wrote:

You need a bike like my PK Ripper XLP with Roseanne Bars. Nice and roomy.

Check it,,, http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/se_racingcurrent/30213

nice ride.

oldgooseguy wrote:

Yet why should I?

You'll know why the first time you try to ride an old-school bike (or new-school bike configured all old-school) over, like, the rhythm section of a new-school track.

(I used to think the same way you do, now, and I, too, am an old-school racer.)

If it's an SE you want, let me know!!!

Peter