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these are race approved hutch freestyle bars.....


notice the lower cross bar looks different on the ads picture than these do wonder if thats the differrence between itson bars and regular ladder bars?

Here's a pair of Buff Bars... (Mike Buff)... I think these are similar, if not the same as the freestyle bars that mobass posted above... just these were a signature series for Mike Buff. The decal that says "Buff Bars" is smudged on this pair.


The measurements are:
27 1/2" wide
Main Tubing -       OD = 7/8" and .050" thick
Top Cross bar -    OD = 1/2" x 11 3/8" wide (measured across the top side weld-to-weld) .... 7" (measured center-to-center) up from stem mount
Lower Cross bar -  OD = 1/2" x 9 1/2" wide (measured across the top side weld-to-we) .... 4 1/2" (measured center-to-center) up from stem mount

These bars are the original Hutch Pro Racer bars... these are the same as Robinson Pro bars but have the Black "HUTCH" decal applied and sold by Hutch.

.. the owner (Mr. Stillwater) sent me the pictures to add to this section with info...

Width-(from bar end to end, not bending the tape measure is)- 28.5" tubing is 14/16th's
Cross bar width- 12" tubing is about 1/2"
Rise(from top of bottom bar to top of cross bar is 6.5"
no knurling black rub on sticker

(he said he would send me more pictures, so I'll update this post)

Hutch Pro Bars with original Decals

28" wide -11" crossbar -8" rise

The difference between Buff and Dominguez ladder bars is that the top bar is a bigger diameter on Dominguez bars.  Both crossbars are the same diameter on Buff bars.

There is some debate around when Futuristic black first appeared. I've heard stories that they were built as early as late-'84

"Bad Bars" were branded later when production was going on in Taiwan. Also note the knurling on bad bars.

Hutch Cruiser Bars

NOS Hutch Badd Bars - in the bag!

(and to answer questions above - they're pretty much exactly Woody Bars - same shape and dimensions / geometry, but they added the "HUTCH" stamp, and a cross hatched knurling.. circa 1987 )

1st Gen Hutch bars above you see the bottom of 2nd gens more boxie.


2nd Gens


2nd Gens Chrome OG W/ OG decals



3rd Gens like 2nds but fatter and shorter cross bar w/ white on clear factory decals OG Chrome And Decals



Unknown Hutch bars I got from Juan Bmxaddicts note low cross bar location.



Hutch Cruiser Bar OG



Hutch Expert Bars



Weld Close Up On 1st Gen Robinson made Hutch bars AKA 1st gens like in 1st picture above.

first gen pro racer bars


boxier third gens.these are identical to second gens but these have a thicker cross bars

nos

freestyl wrote:

Hey guys all my bars made by VDC (first), then Hutch are .065 wall thickness.  DB dropped the ball on that and made them .049. Regular handlebars were .049 and I use to bend them like crazy.  My bars basically evolved from Star bars.  Greg Hill use to give me bars and I really liked them, except I kept bending then and ocassionally would hit my face on the cross bar when I would land hard.  I felt bad asking him for bars all the time and one day I was telling Voris about my problem.  So we took the basic star bar design, flattened the sweep a bit, incrased the tubing thickness to .065 and made the cross bar larger for added strength and to look better.  That was the gen 1 VDC made Woody bar.  The only difference between the Gen 1 VDC woody bar and the Gen 2 VDC Woody bar was I lowered the cross bar by an inch to help spare my face a bit on the hard landings.   

When I went to ride for Hutch, their design was suppose to be a copy of my VDC Gen 2 bar.  But tubing machines would differ ever so slightly BITD and they were pretty close, but the Hutch made bars are a little narrower on the bottom to give your knees more room.  There is only so much you can do to a handlebar to differentiate it, but mine were the first of their kind with those types of features.  Also, the Hutch made bars had holes drilled in the bottom of the ends to hang them for paint. 

The DB bars were suppose to be exact copies of my Hutch made bars, but I'm not sure what happened there.  DB used them on a lot of their bikes, but didn't put my name on them so they would have to pay me a royalty.  I think since then they have probably been the most copied bar on the market.  More than a few of todays best selling bars almost match up identical to my old bars, except for a flatter bend and the knurling.  The knurling really does help, I wish I had done that myself. 

Anyhow, I hope this helps.  Also as to different cross bar heights, etc, those were just production errors.  BITD almost all bars were made here in the US by people, not machines.  If you cut a cross bar the wrong length, even an 1/8 of an inch off, it would lower it down on the handlebars.  I have people ask me time and time again, do you think these were proto's or something?  I just smile and tell them no, somebody was probably a little hung over on monday cutting cross bars.....

FYI, if I ever get confused myself, I will defer to the two Matts, they have it pretty dialed.