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#1 2013-02-22 1:19pm

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Got bored.... Burnt a bike

Ok, not really tonguebig_smile. But being bored sometimes gives you the opportunity to try and do things you might otherwise not have. And boy I was bored yesterday.  So figured I would do something to my raw S&M Sabbath frame besides the norm I've seen em done. I had already sanded it smooth, and semi polished looking. I just wasn't excited, and seemed a little plain. And I love raw frames, but wanted to do something to make it stand out and be unique.  So after having a few, and BS'n with a buddy who builds custom choppers, we came up with an idea.  Why not give the raw frame some color naturally. Lightbulb smile. Love how raw frames with the weld burns left on them look, and decided to try it on my raw frame.  So busted out some heat and went to town.  I started with a torch, but I wasn't liking how it was looking, getting too hot, too fast.  So went to using a heat gun, and that was giving me the results I was after.  It did take a little longer to accomplish, with how long it takes to heat up. But the process was fairly easy to do, and actually worked out great using a heat gun, and how it distributed the heat pretty evenly.
Before pic
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The aftermath
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/anjudoknow420/20130220_160931_zpsc55b3b36.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/anjudoknow420/20130220_160921_zps281146a3.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/anjudoknow420/20130220_160616_zps4a13be0e.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/anjudoknow420/20130220_160136_zps6a2f638b.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii158/anjudoknow420/20130220_145739_zps24603263.jpg
The nice thing about doing this, it's super easy to remove and get back to OG finish and straight raw looking frame.  I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out and the overall look.  Idk, it's something a little different to do.  It's fun to customize big_smile

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#2 2013-02-22 1:21pm

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Re: Got bored.... Burnt a bike

cool

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#3 2013-02-22 1:25pm

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yikes ....That looks dope as F*ck.... cool


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#4 2013-02-22 1:27pm

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Yea that is awesome!!

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#5 2013-02-22 1:48pm

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Looks like its freshly welded, cool! cool


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#6 2013-02-22 1:54pm

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talk about scorched!!! dig it!!!


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#7 2013-02-22 1:55pm

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Re: Got bored.... Burnt a bike

I would end up doing the whole frame, but that looks great.  After seeing my first raw frame, I knew I would end up with one.  But some reason, I want a few more.

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#8 2013-02-22 1:56pm

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Nice!


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#9 2013-02-22 2:15pm

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Looks great but I would be concerned about how you altered the strength if the steel.


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#10 2013-02-22 2:17pm

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Re: Got bored.... Burnt a bike

Well done ...  Finish looks great .

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#11 2013-02-22 2:43pm

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Very cool. Will the heat weaken the frame in any way?


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#12 2013-02-22 3:20pm

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Re: Got bored.... Burnt a bike

how long of a process is it?


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#13 2013-02-22 3:29pm

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Re: Got bored.... Burnt a bike

MotoMagMatt wrote:

Very cool. Will the heat weaken the frame in any way?

Heat causes the atoms to get excited and move faster which affects the strength of the metal negatively


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#14 2013-02-22 4:25pm

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I know I'm gonna have this debated but being a welder. I WOULD NEVER SUGGEST DOING THIS.  It take pretty extreme heat to get metal to discolor especially since its twice the size of what a tig machine would leave.  This fatigues the metal and ruins it structurally. I repeat do not do this if you value your bike.

It does look cool tho. But it's not good to do


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#15 2013-02-22 4:36pm

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Thanks everyone.  Cool to see people liking how it came out.

As far as affecting the strength and integrity.  I spoke with a few people regarding that.  It shouldn't weaken it, because I was only heated up to 600 degrees hottest for maybe a few seconds.  It wasn't sustained heat. 4130 is a heat treatable metal.  Powder coating can get it up to 400 degrees, and that doesn't weaken your frame.    So from everything I was told and read, the metal should be just fine and not loose any strength.

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#16 2013-02-22 4:39pm

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XJguy wrote:

Looks great but I would be concerned about how you altered the strength if the steel.

Exactly.

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#17 2013-02-22 4:42pm

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72ss454 wrote:

I would end up doing the whole frame, but that looks great.  After seeing my first raw frame, I knew I would end up with one.  But some reason, I want a few more.

I was very tempted to just do the whole frame.  But for now I think it looks pretty cool at the welds only.  We'll see about possibly doing more.
Raw frames are sick.  Something about the simplicity of the look.  Here's some metal, here's a welder, weld up a frame, build into a bike.  No frills, no thrills.  Is what it is.  RAW wink

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#18 2013-02-22 4:43pm

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Thats prolly all surface..he would have to get it cherry red to make any mollecular changes..
Unless it was heat treated after manf,witch would change temper/ hardness...

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#19 2013-02-22 4:56pm

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Roy Munson wrote:

I know I'm gonna have this debated but being a welder. I WOULD NEVER SUGGEST DOING THIS.  It take pretty extreme heat to get metal to discolor especially since its twice the size of what a tig machine would leave.  This fatigues the metal and ruins it structurally. I repeat do not do this if you value your bike.

It does look cool tho. But it's not good to do

All good, respect people's  knowledge.  But not too worried about it.  Again, didn't do it willy nilly.  My buddy who helped me is also a welder.  And I spoke with some pretty knowledgable people about it.  And if it was slightly affected, it would be minimal loss.  Biggest concern would be weld cracks, but none.  Hey, I don't know it all, not trying to say i do.  Wouldn't have done something like this without consulting people on the issue tho.
Welders have to gets way hotter then that, but for short periods usually, in very small area.

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#20 2013-02-22 4:59pm

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Jerry A Hutcher wrote:

Thats prolly all surface..he would have to get it cherry red to make any mollecular changes..
Unless it was heat treated after manf,witch would change temper/ hardness...

Exactly.  It wasn't sustained heat whatsoever.  They heat treat at above 1200-1500 for usually 30 min, then quench. There is a big process to heat treating.  And that only helps, and hardens.  What I did was very minimal heat, at very short intervals sustained.

I would think at most the drop outs might be heat treated.

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#21 2013-02-22 5:53pm

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hardening will make it more brittle   & more likely to crack.....    .02

& yes looks verrrry cool

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#22 2013-02-22 6:02pm

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personally the area that is "blued" is way to large to look real or correct, and its missing the other colors associated with the weld....
i'd try the cold version of this used in guns. hmm


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#23 2013-02-22 6:07pm

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dedmann wrote:

personally the area that is "blued" is way to large to look real or correct, and its missing the other colors associated with the weld....
i'd try the cold version of this used in guns. hmm

I was going to say something similar.  It just looks unnatural and the areas are so large.  Personally, I'd go for the whole thing from here. 

Still a cool idea though.


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#24 2013-02-22 6:14pm

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i wonder if that would work on a hi-ten frame? that would be sick to do to my daily rider


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#25 2013-02-22 6:37pm

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dedmann wrote:

personally the area that is "blued" is way to large to look real or correct, and its missing the other colors associated with the weld....
i'd try the cold version of this used in guns. hmm

I hear ya. It isn't actual weld burns you know. I did it bigger for the for effect and looks.  Not to make look exactly like all the other ones. Which are extremely dark looking.

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