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....That looks dope as F*ck....

Looks like its freshly welded, cool!

I would end up doing the whole frame, but that looks great.  After seeing my first raw frame, I knew I would end up with one.  But some reason, I want a few more.

Last edited by 72ss454 (2013-02-22 1:55pm)

Looks great but I would be concerned about how you altered the strength if the steel.

Very cool. Will the heat weaken the frame in any way?

MotoMagMatt wrote:

Very cool. Will the heat weaken the frame in any way?

Heat causes the atoms to get excited and move faster which affects the strength of the metal negatively

Thanks everyone.  Cool to see people liking how it came out.

As far as affecting the strength and integrity.  I spoke with a few people regarding that.  It shouldn't weaken it, because I was only heated up to 600 degrees hottest for maybe a few seconds.  It wasn't sustained heat. 4130 is a heat treatable metal.  Powder coating can get it up to 400 degrees, and that doesn't weaken your frame.    So from everything I was told and read, the metal should be just fine and not loose any strength.

72ss454 wrote:

I would end up doing the whole frame, but that looks great.  After seeing my first raw frame, I knew I would end up with one.  But some reason, I want a few more.

I was very tempted to just do the whole frame.  But for now I think it looks pretty cool at the welds only.  We'll see about possibly doing more.
Raw frames are sick.  Something about the simplicity of the look.  Here's some metal, here's a welder, weld up a frame, build into a bike.  No frills, no thrills.  Is what it is.  RAW

Roy Munson wrote:

I know I'm gonna have this debated but being a welder. I WOULD NEVER SUGGEST DOING THIS.  It take pretty extreme heat to get metal to discolor especially since its twice the size of what a tig machine would leave.  This fatigues the metal and ruins it structurally. I repeat do not do this if you value your bike.

It does look cool tho. But it's not good to do

All good, respect people's  knowledge.  But not too worried about it.  Again, didn't do it willy nilly.  My buddy who helped me is also a welder.  And I spoke with some pretty knowledgable people about it.  And if it was slightly affected, it would be minimal loss.  Biggest concern would be weld cracks, but none.  Hey, I don't know it all, not trying to say i do.  Wouldn't have done something like this without consulting people on the issue tho.
Welders have to gets way hotter then that, but for short periods usually, in very small area.

hardening will make it more brittle   & more likely to crack.....    .02

& yes looks verrrry cool

Last edited by whatupethan (2013-02-22 5:55pm)

dedmann wrote:

personally the area that is "blued" is way to large to look real or correct, and its missing the other colors associated with the weld....
i'd try the cold version of this used in guns.

I was going to say something similar.  It just looks unnatural and the areas are so large.  Personally, I'd go for the whole thing from here. 

Still a cool idea though.

dedmann wrote:

personally the area that is "blued" is way to large to look real or correct, and its missing the other colors associated with the weld....
i'd try the cold version of this used in guns.

I hear ya. It isn't actual weld burns you know. I did it bigger for the for effect and looks.  Not to make look exactly like all the other ones. Which are extremely dark looking.