2001 Dyno VFR Resto/mod 
#1 2013-02-15 8:45pm
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2001 Dyno VFR Resto/mod
Considering the amount of time I spend on paint refinishing, and how nit-picky I am at getting the finish to exactly what I want, and how long that takes, I decided to move away from rattle can projects and start teaching myself how to spray with proper (automotive) paint. I'm also looking to have a finish that's a *lot* more durable than rattle can is able to provide.
In this case I'm choosing a to go with base coat / clear coat method. From what I've been told speaking to a number of custom paint pros on this side of the world the base/clear method gives a much higher gloss sheen than typical 2k / single-stage applications.
I picked up this frame (together with fork) a while back, with the intention of using it for exactly something like this. So this seems like a good starter project to get things going with. As with my Mirra project, I also wanted a project that I'd be doing a lot of painting on (so parts as well, not just the f/f).
I dropped the original forks in favour of a set of Landing Gear forks. More suited to what I've got in mind for the final build.
Some of the parts that'll be going on this build. Nothing fancy or pricey.
Pedals in their original state.
With reflector tabs removed and casting burs cleaned up a little.
Seat clamp, brake parts and chainring.


And also the stem. It looks like the previous owner had used a screwdriver to pry apart the section where it clamps to the steerer tube, and mucked up the edges really nicely. I haven't quite decided what I'm going to do about that yet to fix / hide the damage.
It's also key to the color for the other parts, so for this I have metallic gold paint mixed up to match the stem color.
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#2 2013-02-16 10:10am
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What brand of automotive paint are you going to use?
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#3 2013-02-16 12:09pm
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Re: 2001 Dyno VFR Resto/mod
Nice. Been a while... ![]()
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#4 2013-02-16 10:07pm
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Re: 2001 Dyno VFR Resto/mod
Joebikesbaby wrote:
What brand of automotive paint are you going to use?
Nothing too serious for my first time. Plascon for the solid base color, clear, matting and hardener, Standox for the metallic base.
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#5 2013-02-16 10:07pm
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wired wrote:
Nice. Been a while...
Yeah I know, been a crazy, crazy year last year.
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#6 2013-02-20 2:24am
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Since I don't have a proper spray booth and my"well ventilated area" is really outside in a nicely shaded area, I'm heavily reliant upon decent weather. Had some time for that this weekend, and finished up the gold parts, all matched up to the stem - the only part left OG anodised.
You'll see there's a sort of satin sheen to the gold. Did some experimenting with matting agent included in the clear mix to dull it down slightly so that the gold has a similar shine to the ano stem.
Before and after of the brake lever (the left won't be going on this build).
I also shot the primer for the frame and forks.
Working really hard at this to get my technique right. Took me two attempts on the forks to get the finish I wanted just from spraying (no sanding whatsoever). It's a little difficult to see because the primer is so flat, but I think you get the idea. It's also not laid on thick like a filler, but really thin and just a couple of coats.
It's actually really cool to see the finished lines coming out right from the start without having to do the slog work of sanding and so-on that I've been used to with rattle-can jobs.
The weather played nicely again yesterday morning, so had time to shoot the color and clear for the forks. They're busy curing right now (no oven yet), so once they're ready I'll post those up. The frame is the big one, so I've left that for last and will hopefully have some decent weather for long enough sometime soon to finish that up.
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#7 2013-02-20 2:33am
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Re: 2001 Dyno VFR Resto/mod
Great job so far! Can't wait to see it finished.
I use rattle cans all of the time. I've been thinking of doing the same by moving to auto paint & proper sprayers.
This thread & build will be some inspiration for me to give it a shot.
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#8 2013-02-20 8:20am
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Things to do while waiting for paint to dry ![]()

I've got a bunch of 195mm spokes which I need cut down and threaded to 188mm / 190mm for the hubs and rims I plan on using for this build. About halfway there now.
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#9 2013-02-20 10:50am
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Nice job. I'm at work right now reading this thread on my phone, do you see any signs of "orange peel"? I also wanted to ask, what kind of sprayer are you using?
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#10 2013-02-20 8:09pm
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Wow, that gold turned out really nice. I've seen people do the red and blue a lot here but never gold and definitely never as nice a job as yours.
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#11 2013-02-21 11:07am
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Joebikesbaby wrote:
Nice job. I'm at work right now reading this thread on my phone, do you see any signs of "orange peel"? I also wanted to ask, what kind of sprayer are you using?
I had orange peel on the first pass of the primer on the forks, so that was stripped and started again. Adjustments made to spray volume and distance I was spraying at sorted that out. All a learning process for me as I go along, keep trying to get my technique dialed in.
I'm using these guns. The silver Asgo is a nothing special generic, used ONLY for the primer application.
The DeVilbiss is where I did spend some cash and invested in a decent gun for the basecoat color and clear applications. It's a finishing / small application gun so perfect for bicycle parts. Both are HVLP guns, so they also need a decent compressor to push out the volume of air these need to spray effectively. 
When I set up the rig for the frame work I'll take some pics of that so you can see what else there is with this lot.
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#12 2013-02-21 11:55am
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Genix9 wrote:
Joebikesbaby wrote:
Nice job. I'm at work right now reading this thread on my phone, do you see any signs of "orange peel"? I also wanted to ask, what kind of sprayer are you using?
I had orange peel on the first pass of the primer on the forks, so that was stripped and started again. Adjustments made to spray volume and distance I was spraying at sorted that out. All a learning process for me as I go along, keep trying to get my technique dialed in.
I'm using these guns. The silver Asgo is a nothing special generic, used ONLY for the primer application.
The DeVilbiss is where I did spend some cash and invested in a decent gun for the basecoat color and clear applications. It's a finishing / small application gun so perfect for bicycle parts. Both are HVLP guns, so they also need a decent compressor to push out the volume of air these need to spray effectively.
http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab35 … 43599b.jpg
When I set up the rig for the frame work I'll take some pics of that so you can see what else there is with this lot.
I have a few builds I want to do and I was looking into spray guns instead of rattle cans and sanding.
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#13 2013-02-21 12:03pm
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Looking good so far!
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#14 2013-02-21 12:14pm
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Nice DeVilbiss! Really you should buy another when you have the funds and use one of them (new one) for clear only, that is the key my friend ![]()
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#15 2013-02-22 10:32pm
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tomknox wrote:
Nice DeVilbiss! Really you should buy another when you have the funds and use one of them (new one) for clear only, that is the key my friend
Good tip, thanks! Will definitely put that on the Christmas list ![]()
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#16 2013-02-24 11:36am
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Here's the forks done and dusted. Just sprayed, no sanding, polishing or anything else ![]()


Unfortunately no time to do the frame yet, but hopefully early this week if all goes well. Getting pretty excited about this project ![]()
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#17 2013-02-24 11:51am
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looks great, i need to learn how to spary,
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#18 2013-02-24 12:13pm
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WOW! That's gorgeous Grant! What a difference from rattle can.
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#19 2013-02-24 11:06pm
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wired wrote:
WOW! That's gorgeous Grant! What a difference from rattle can.
Thanks Kelly. It's also a lot quicker as well. No more waiting for 48 hours between primer, color and clear to be able to get to the finished stages.
Now hope I can get it right with the frame ![]()
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That's also a nice looking baby blue - I see a nice color combo looming here. With your skills it is sure to be a winner. ![]()
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#21 2013-02-26 11:48am
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Just a quick shot of the frame in progress. My brother did me a huge favour and built a jig for me based on the designs other members here have posted.
The finish on the frame isn't nearly as good as what I managed to achieve on the forks, so still some way to go learning technique and the intricacies of the gun. From what I've read my fluid control was still too low for a smooth base coat in this case, ending up with orange peel in some areas.
I'm also used to spraying a hanging frame, from top to bottom, sometimes upside down. Using the gun and jig and getting into the tight spots takes some getting used to.
I'll see how it dries out in a couple of days and decide from there whether I'm up to wet sanding and buffing (which would give me a chance to work with automotive polishing compound to get a feel for that). Or else just strip and re-do. Decisions, decisions. 
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You will never paint orange peel free, the better you get at it the less you will have.
What better skill will save you in the long run is time color sanding and buffing. Even the runs can be sanded out before buffing. If you have enough paint on it to color sand smooth you should be good.
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#23 2013-02-26 1:12pm
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You will never paint orange peel free, the better you get at it the less you will have.
What better skill will save you in the long run is time color sanding and buffing. Even the runs can be sanded out before buffing. If you have enough paint on it to color sand smooth you should be good.
Yeah, I'm leaning towards some quality time with a sanding sanding block as well. Especially with this particular frame, it's easier to get a perfect finish on rounded areas like the forks, but on flats a little harder.
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